Thursday, October 3rd 2024

Single-Player Games Lose to PVP in Younger Audiences Despite Recent Hits

It looks like Epic Games's Tim Sweeney was onto something earlier this week when he claimed that the gaming landscape is changing. According to new research by MIDiA Research, online PVP and couch co-op games are more popular than single-player games in audiences aged 16-24, with older audiences overwhelmingly preferring single-player games.

The researchers surveyed 9,000 gamers in the US, UK, Australia, Canada, Germany, France, Sweden, South Korea, and Brazil, giving the study a pretty diverse sample, in terms of socio-economic and cultural backgrounds. Regardless of age group, single-player and PVP games were always the most popular genres, although a solid 53% of the participants in the study said that single-player games were their preference.
Single-player gaming seems to be experiencing something of a renaissance in recent years, after the mid 2010 PVP and MMO boom, with games like Black Myth: Wukong, Cyberpunk 2077, and Elden Ring—three AAA, narrative-driven, primarily single-player titles—garnering second, seventh, and eighth place in SteamDB's all-time peak player count charts. It's also worth observing that players seem to be growing increasingly frustrated with live-service and online games, most of which rely on PVP or PVE elements for success.

The low popularity of couch co-op games in audiences 35-years old and older is also peculiar, since those are exactly the types of gamers who likely grew up playing couch co-op games with friends and family on consoles.
Sources: MIDiA Research, SteamDB
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73 Comments on Single-Player Games Lose to PVP in Younger Audiences Despite Recent Hits

#51
oxrufiioxo
cvaldesRemember that enjoyment of any activity is pretty subjective and I'm not just talking about videogames or games. If someone can't explain why they prefer Valorant over Apex Legends, that's fine by me. Hell, I don't get all flustered if someone can't explain why they like cricket over baseball or snowboarding over rock climbing.

But it's important to note that videogames are games. Most people play them to have fun. Just like youth football, pickup games at the neighborhood basketball court, mixed doubles tennis, a round of golf, skateboarding, whatever.

I still maintain that videogames are relatively inexpensive entertainment when you look at the cost over time. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time was $60 at launch (1998). That's like $130 in today's dollars adjusted for inflation. Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom is $70 full retail (goes on sale from time to time). How long is a Legend of Zelda playthrough?

What's the price of a movie ticket? Even if the movie is very long, very few go beyond 160 minutes.

What are the costs to send a kid to a youth football league? Swim team?
I agree, what others spend on entertainment is none of my business we all have different taste in movies, music, food, entertainment doesn't make any of it good or bad it just comes down to what one chooses to do with their time/money.

I almost get the impression that people are upset others enjoy stuff they do not like which makes no sense to me.
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#52
sepheronx
rtwjunkieOnly up to a certain age. I’m 57. We grew up with crude single player games on PC’s and that’s where many of us GenX still are.
That's where I'm at. I barely touch multi-player at all.
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#53
kapone32
oxrufiioxoIt probably comes down to how much one values 60-70 bucks.... A couple hours of work to play a game for 6-8 months with my buddies isn't a large investment 1-2 times a year assuming we get multiple new MP games that year ofc. I can't even go out to eat with my wife for that and going to the movies cost about half that or more these days so it's pretty insignificant. I would imagine a lot of people only buy cod and that is it or whatever their MP or sports game of choice is every year.
For me it is awareness. I absolutely love Humble Choice. For $14 a month I get Games that I actually enjoy playing. As an example Destroy all Humans 1 and 2. Just pure arcade like PC Gaming fun. Yes you get Multiplayer Games like
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#54
lexluthermiester
CheeseballNothing really wrong with any of this
I disagree but that would just be personal perspective. PVP/PVE games are just vapid junk. Kinda says a lot about the sad state of things in the world.
rtwjunkieOnly up to a certain age. I’m 57. We grew up with crude single player games on PC’s and that’s where many of us GenX still are.
sepheronxThat's where I'm at. I barely touch multi-player at all.
Same here..
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#55
cvaldes
oxrufiioxoI agree, what others spend on entertainment is none of my business we all have different taste in movies, music, food, entertainment doesn't make any of it good or bad it just comes down to what one chooses to do with their time/money.

I almost get the impression that people are upset others enjoy stuff they do not like which makes no sense to me.
It is weird. It would be like Wagner fans getting pissed off because someone else prefers Verdi or Händel. Or someone likes ocean spear fishing over fly fishing.

Tech nerds are really, really strange sometimes. I’ve never had this type of conversation with any of my classical music acquaintances but this sort of discussion comes up frequently in tech forums.
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#56
oxrufiioxo
kapone32For me it is awareness. I absolutely love Humble Choice. For $14 a month I get Games that I actually enjoy playing. As an example Destroy all Humans 1 and 2. Just pure arcade like PC Gaming fun. Yes you get Multiplayer Games like
I can't remember the last humble bundle I purchased but they do typically have awesome value. The current one has interesting games.
cvaldesIt is weird. It would be like Wagner fans getting pissed off because someone else prefers Verdi or Händel. Or someone likes ocean spear fishing over fly fishing.

Tech nerds are really, really strange sometimes. I’ve never had this type of conversation with any of my classical music acquaintances but this sort of discussion comes up frequently in tech forums.
Yeah, I can understand being on the outside looking in for someone who doesn't actually buy the games thinking they are pointless or too similar or whatever but those games aren't made for them just like not every game is made for me and that's ok I'm glad there s still a decent variety of games. Now I can agree with anyone that the current state of AAA gaming is troubling with studios wanting to take 0 chance due to ballooning development cost but that's a completely different topic. I'd also be on board with Microsoft giving the CoD developers longer maybe switching to a biannual release but my guess is I'm in the minority in that sentiment.
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#57
evernessince
AusWolfCan someone explain the appeal of CoD to me? I don't mean the first one or second one, I mean the 7435784th one. It seems to me like the same game over and over again. :confused:
The multi-player FPS market is in a horrid state and has been for a long time. Overwatch was the only decent FPS until they nuked it from orbit with OW2 and forcing the game to be kill focused instead of teamwork focused. But yeah that might have been intentional given activision owns blizzard and picks up these FPS gamers regardless of where they go. Halo pretty much offed itself with how poorly they executed on infinite. Plus the auto-aim advantage on guns like the battle rifle is just insane for controller players. "Pro" console players get some 70% perfect kill rate, the best M&K players get a 35% rate. Even if the game didn't have other issues, this would be hurting the game just like the over-tuned auto-aim in games like Apex did. M&K players where switching to controllers and with only a month of practice were able to get to their M&K level of performance with the help of auto-aim. Auto-aim in general just doesn't belong in any cross-play game period.
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#58
Count von Schwalbe
UpgrayeddThe problem I have with SP games now is there's almost always room for co-op and it just isn't there. If there's no co-op I don't even look at it unless it's 90% off.
Also, almost every single sp game is capable of a death match mode or a basic capture the flag. Asking $60 and having budgets of $200m+ is kinda inexcusable not having a basic mode.
I would love to see a Car Mechanic Simulator capture the flag mode.
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#59
AusWolf
oxrufiioxoYou'd actually have to play them to know but Vanguard, Black ops CW, and MW 2/3 are all different enough with completely different settings to justify a purchase if you have a group of friends to play them.

Now if they are good or bad games is completely subjective.
Sure, I never said they're not good games. Just that I don't see much, if any difference between them, and as such, any reason to spend money on them every year, personally.
oxrufiioxoI still understand your point of view I feel most indie games are a waste of money and time and most SP stuff these days regardless of how much alike or different they are pretty crappy.
There are many poorly made indie games out there, but there's quite a few rare gems, too. Stray was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had, and I don't even think it cost me 20 quid.
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#60
oxrufiioxo
AusWolfThere are many poorly made indie games out there, but there's quite a few rare gems, too. Stray was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had, and I don't even think it cost me 20 quid.
Have heard good things about that game, unfortunately it sounds like the entire development team resign due to management.
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#61
LabRat 891
Can't really speak against this; I would have been a part of those statistics.
Q3A, Halo PC, FEAR, CS:S, CoD4, etc. were 'my jam', back then.

Only with age and experience have I found (clear) preference for Co-Op/'PvE MP' and SP games.
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#62
kapone32
LabRat 891Can't really speak against this; I would have been a part of those statistics.
Q3A, Halo PC, FEAR, CS:S, CoD4, etc. were 'my jam', back then.

Only with age and experience have I found (clear) preference for Co-Op/'PvE MP' and SP games.
One of my faves is Aliens Fire Team. The missions are nice and long and requires absolute teamwork.
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#63
scottslayer
I was a server admin/server owner for TF2 and CSGO for 5 years, that soured me on playing PvP first games and interacting with the sorts of people that play them.
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#64
nguyen
Sad reality is the older we get the fewer friends we have, my gaming circle just got smaller and smaller so I play more single player games these days

Gone were the days I play DOTA2 all night with friends :cry:.
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#65
R0H1T
Timmy knows his audience, day care centers & retirement homes :pimp:
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#66
oxrufiioxo
nguyenSad reality is the older we get the fewer friends we have, my gaming circle just got smaller and smaller so I play more single player games these days

Gone were the days I play DOTA2 all night with friends :cry:.
I miss the "the suns not up yet, you can't get off" days lol.

To be young again lol.
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#67
kapone32
R0H1TTimmy knows his audience, day care centers & retirement homes :pimp:
Can you imagine Old Age homes in 15 to 25 years? Handhelds will be the rage lol.
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#68
R0H1T
kapone32Can you imagine Old Age homes in 15 to 25 years? Handhelds will be the rage lol.
I can imagine a lot of things from the future; in general, the world is getting more isolationist and lonely ~ just an observation. Video games, among other things, are replacing humans for some many :shadedshu:
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#69
Solaris17
Super Dainty Moderator
I think this makes sense, the developmental years, are generally about the social experiences in every culture. As you get older those interactions are less important and less needed.

I dont need to be able to play 4 hours of unreal tournament with you to create a way to relate.

imo and as the graph shows, SP games are better for the majority of the gaming age brackets. generally more thought provoking, and I can escape and put myselves as that character if I so choose.

Things I definitely valued less when I was younger.
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#70
LabRat 891
kapone32One of my faves is Aliens Fire Team. The missions are nice and long and requires absolute teamwork.
Will look into and share w/ usual teammate.
scottslayerI was a server admin/server owner for TF2 and CSGO for 5 years, that soured me on playing PvP first games and interacting with the sorts of people that play them.
*very* understandable. Still, disturbing and saddening.

I have a friend(same as mentioned above) admin'ing a couple smaller Discord servers. Some of the things he's dealt with are a new-to-me level of disturbing. -mind you, I'm of the LiveLeak, etc. era of Internet Denizenry, so that's saying something.
nguyenSad reality is the older we get the fewer friends we have, my gaming circle just got smaller and smaller so I play more single player games these days

Gone were the days I play DOTA2 all night with friends :cry:.
That may not be my genre but, I can relate.
Family, GFs/wives/SOs, children, etc. end up (mostly-understandably) taking priority; people move away, leave school/college/job, and we lose touch.
NtM, the consequences of all-night gaming sessions are a bit heavier, when you're older and have responsibilities and bills :(.
oxrufiioxoI miss the "the suns not up yet, you can't get off" days lol.

To be young again lol.
yup. Better times...
R0H1TI can imagine a lot of things from the future; in general, the world is getting more isolationist and lonely ~ just an observation. Video games are replacing humans for some many :shadedshu:
My money's still on a AAA Games Industry crash. Unless something else intervenes, I think we're on the verge of AI/MI prompt-based game creation.
(You think the market's saturated now? :laugh:)
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#71
R0H1T
LabRat 891My money's still on a AAA Games Industry crash. Unless something else intervenes, I think we're on the verge of AI/MI prompt-based game creation.
I doubt that, unless you meant something related to coding?

One of the biggest issues with mankind is, of course, the God complex :slap:
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#72
Solaris17
Super Dainty Moderator
Cpt.JankThe low popularity of couch co-op games in audiences 35-years old and older is also peculiar, since those are exactly the types of gamers who likely grew up playing couch co-op games with friends and family on consoles.
lol idk about peculiar. you must not have spent a lot of time playing monopoly with extended family. co-op games with people next to me when I was younger is the same rage energy as having someone play reverse uno.
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#73
LabRat 891
R0H1TI doubt that, unless you meant something related to coding?

One of the biggest issues with mankind is, of course, the God complex :slap:
The coding-automation is the start, yes. -Which, lowers hands-on quality, etc.
All, incentivized over these monstrously huge dev. budgets and subsequent flops.
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