CheeseballOkay, 4+4c sounds like it could fit a proper Steam Deck-like APU since the extra cores would not be siphoning power from the overall TDP.

AcEThey already made something like this for handhelds, it's called Zenith 2 Extreme afaik (not 100% sure), but what is fact, is, that it has 3 cores and 5 Zen 5C cores. And then the iGPU with 16 CUs. It's a bit odd, don't know how good it will perform in gaming.

CheeseballThats an awkward code name. LOL. Zenith II Extreme was an old TRX40 motherboard by ASUS.

Z2X or Z2 Extreme perhaps. But 3 full and 5c cores does sound more gaming-oriented since even today most games really just utilize around 4 cores heavily, unless you crank up the graphics with a dGPU since the CPU needs to process more data to feed it.

If that 3+5c+16CU is in the works, I'll welcome it, either for handhelds or ultrabooks.

CheeseballThats an awkward code name. LOL. Zenith II Extreme was an old TRX40 motherboard by ASUS.

CheeseballIf that 3+5c+16CU is in the works, I'll welcome it, either for handhelds or ultrabooks.

wNotyarDShould be Z2 and Z2 Extreme, the predecessors inside the Rog Ally and Legion Go are the Z1 and Z1 Extreme. My guess is just that @AcE made a little mistake.

AcEDude it's exactly what I said. Zenith 2 Extreme.

wNotyarDYou did your post almost at the exact time as I did, so it didn't show up. As far as I know, though, the name "Zenith" was never used for these SoC's.

CheeseballSteam Deck-like APU

Neo_MorpheusGiven the success of the current Steam Deck, I'm pretty sure that ValvE will double down on a more custom SOC, like Sony and MS did with their consoles.

And who knows if the same thing will happen with the rumored new Steam Machine.

CheeseballWhenever that new Steam Deck 2 comes out, I'm sure they would have another custom SoC made for it. If they did it for the LCD and OLED models (7nm and 6nm), why not for the next, especially since they technically control (or at least have direct access to) the software stack too.

I'm guessing if they would have their own in-house Steam Machine, they would most likely use Strix Halo with the 20/40+ CUs.

AnarchoPrimitivI wish AMD would make some APUs that have the full fat iGPU (16CUs), but only 6 CPU cores.....that would make an excellent budget gaming APU...., but knowing how OEMs are, they'd probably only put them in models paired with a dGPU completely defeating the point

GenericUsername2001On the reverse side, a chips with 8 CPU cores with 32 MB L3 cache, but only a really basic iGPU, intended for use in laptops that also have a dGPU, would be nice. AMD could save a ton die space that way, but I guess the cost of setting up the production masks & what not must be too much for a more specialized product like that.

CheeseballThey did this, it's the 7740HX. Has the 610M as the iGPU (2 CUs) and 32MB L3. The bad part about it is it follows the chiplet design like the mainline desktop CPUs (it's a lower TDP 7700X), so the low and idle power consumption is quite bad (does not go below 15W to 20W minimum) due to the I/O die.

Cpt.JankWhile all previous mobile Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 APUs have featured the Radeon -80M or -90M series iGPUs, the Ryzen AI 7 350 steps down to the AMD Radeon 860M. Although not much is known about the new iGPU, it uses the same nomenclature as the Radeon iGPUs found in previous Ryzen 5 APUs, suggesting it is the less performant of the new 800 series iGPUs. This would be the first time, at least since the introduction of the Ryzen branding, that a Ryzen 7 CPU will use a cut-down iGPU.