Tuesday, February 18th 2025

Accusations Directed at ASUS over Anticipated PRIME RTX 5070 Ti Series Price Manipulation

GeForce RTX 5070 Ti graphics cards are due to hit international markets this Thursday (February 20), only in custom design form. NVIDIA will not be rolling out a Founders Edition model for this mid-to-high GPU product tier. Yesterday, an NDA-busting leak emerged online; hinting at a mixed bag of synthetic benchmark scores. When compared to new-gen and past-gen siblings, the incoming GB203 GPU-based family's "price-to-performance ratio" was greeted with plenty of online community skepticism. Considering that only a minority of AIB companies are reportedly engaged in the supply of cheaper offerings, the early outlook for overall GeForce RTX 5070 Ti launch pricing is generating further dissatisfaction. Team Green's first wave of "Blackwell" gaming GPUs launched late last month, straight into chaotic market conditions.

At CES 2025, NVIDIA set a baseline MSRP of $749. Fresh reports suggest that hardware review outlets will be delivering comprehensive verdicts tomorrow. VideoCardz believes that the lifted review embargo will be "exclusively for MSRP cards," based on information gleaned from their network of press contacts. The GPU specialist publication has kept tabs on fluctuating GeForce RTX 50-series prices for a while—several recent reports have levelled criticism at prominent Team Green board partners; namely ASUS and MSI. Plenty of venom was directed at the former, due to last month's launch of the: "GeForce RTX 5080 PRIME non-OC model at MSRP, and it was covered in the first reviews...Except, it was increased by 26% the following week. This way, ASUS has cheated the system and got both the early coverage and was still able to sell cards at a higher price." VideoCardz predicts a similar pattern for this week's release of custom GeForce RTX 5070 Ti designs, in particular ASUS PRIME and TUF Gaming SKUs. Their latest report directed additional ire toward the source of all things Blackwell: "unless NVIDIA has no problem with this, this is not how MSRP cards should be announced. It is very misleading for customers and puts reviewers in a very bad light. Their conclusions might be completely different if the card is said to cost much more."
Sources: Notebookcheck, VideoCardz
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53 Comments on Accusations Directed at ASUS over Anticipated PRIME RTX 5070 Ti Series Price Manipulation

#26
Macro Device
john_MSRP prices have to be the norm, not the exceptions.
Even if they were the norm it's still... How do I put it...
GTX 970 launched at 330 dollars.

RTX 5070 Ti is a much more cut-down die. Why should we be okay with it being almost double that, I don't know. No idea.
There's no hope AMD or Intel make any difference so best not to buy anything.
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#27
Krit
Macro DeviceRTX 5070 Ti is a much more cut-down die. Why should we be okay with it being almost double that, I don't know. No idea.
There's no hope AMD or Intel make any difference so best not to buy anything.
nvidia team will not listen to this they just buying with no brakes.
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#28
TPUnique
DavenWhat the hell gaming community!?!?
That's the operative sentence right here.

As soon as you start accepting that a video card isn't just made for videogames, the dirty tricks played by Master Swindler Jensen are easier to swallow.
rv8000We need pushback from reviewers and media on this nonsense, not just “but expensive”.
I want a "Fake MSRP" badge
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#30
Dragokar
There is no way nvidia wasn't aware of this before....just no way.
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#31
Daven
DragokarThere is no way nvidia wasn't aware of this before....just no way.
It's easier for many here to blame AIBs and scalpers because no one wants to think they are being conned out of their money by Nvidia itself. Basically many of us here are saying Nvidia customers are getting scammed by Nvidia. Scammed by artificially limiting supply. Scammed by RT. Scammed by DLSS. Scammed by price collusion with AIBs and vendors. AMD and Intel are only being crushed by the weight of the great Nvidia con. I know I sound bias but realistically the only way to break this corrupt market is to stop buying Nvidia. It's really that simple.

Edit: Hell if you can, stop buying any GPUs until the market is starved of money and forced to reinvent itself.
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#32
Knight47
DavenEdit: Hell if you can, stop buying any GPUs until the market is starved of money and forced to reinvent itself.
I've been waiting for that for 5 years already. How much longer?
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#33
john_
N3utroIt probably will be easier to get one at MSRP in a few months when supply issues have been fixed and everything is not out of stock all the time
IF prices go down to MSRP. Even older/current series cards got inflated. I mean RTX 3000 and RTX 4000 and RX 7000 and RX 6000 cards that are still in the market, all gone up. In such market conditions, RTX 5000 going down to MSRP or AMD putting a consumer friendly price on RX 9070 cards is wishful thinking. Wish I end up completely wrong.

Cards will be sold at MSRP but they will be as many as needed to keep Nvidia from getting sued for false advertisement, assuming that someone can sue a company for advertising one price and seeing in the market a different one. Unfortunately there is NO pressure from the press. And it's not going to be, because tech sites and Youtubers attacking Nvidia, will see their samples getting delayed or not coming at all. And unfortunately consumers wouldn't either support those tech channels or Youtubers. They might write a comment or two "Bad Nvidia" and in the next minute they will order an Nvidia card, while also subscribing to those tech sites/channels that had their reviews at day one, sites/channels that decided to play with Nvidia's rules. That's how things are today.
Macro DeviceEven if they were the norm it's still... How do I put it...
GTX 970 launched at 330 dollars.

RTX 5070 Ti is a much more cut-down die. Why should we be okay with it being almost double that, I don't know. No idea.
There's no hope AMD or Intel make any difference so best not to buy anything.
GTX 970 was a great card, even with that 3.5+0.5 VRAM joke.
And I do agree with your post. With $330 you where getting the second best card 10 years ago. Now with $330 you get the second worst card. In 10 years with $330 the only option will be some SOC with a mid range iGPU (mid range compared to other iGPUs, not compared to discrete GPUs).
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#34
Tek-Check
AssimilatorASUS has always been overpriced, not sure there's a conversation to be had here...
Exactly. Don't buy it and let it rot.
Knight47

microcenter
This seems the only card listed at MSRP. Well spotted.
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#35
Legacy-ZA
_roman_Do you really want to buy an outdated old graphic card in a few months? That graphic card will be soon replaced by the super edition with more vram with lower price?

When I'm at 50% of the product life cycle of a graphic card I do not want to pay 110% or more for it.
Ironically, once again, it's a self own, if you don't have enough supply from the start, people just wait for the next iteration that is sure to come down the line. Then again, they will just make a short supply of those models too. You get small supply, they get small supply, everyone gets small supply.

Why work & ship more GPU's when you can just sell 10 instead of 100, when you can just ask higher prices. :D
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#36
Cheeseball
Not a Potato
Knight47microcenter
Good catch. Unfortunately, Best Buy US has it at this price:


Not sure we should blame Best Buy or ASUS for this markup specifically from this one retailer. For sure we can partially blame NVIDIA for not supplying enough GPUs to meet the demand.
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#37
Daven
Knight47I've been waiting for that for 5 years already. How much longer?
I’m sad to say that there are just too many lemmings today. They will never stop buying Nvidia no matter the price. The day will never come. :(
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#39
Krit
OSdevrTariffs?
Tariffs what? No! (It's just an accidental smoke screen) It's nvidia/AI directly not even scalpers as much as we think.
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#40
_roman_
I wish anyone the opportunity and possibility to buy such a graphic card for 750 US Dollar. After watching jay2cents video and the gamers nexus video today - I highly doubt those prices will stay.

I think the situation will get worse for the opportunity to buy a nvidia 5000 series high end card. Although I would not consider a 70 card high end. Price wise it definitely is high end.

People will buy. I also bought overpriced radeon 6600XT when it was fresh on the market with far too much asking price and additional scalper shop tax.
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#41
Visible Noise
Macro DeviceEven if they were the norm it's still... How do I put it...
GTX 970 launched at 330 dollars.

RTX 5070 Ti is a much more cut-down die. Why should we be okay with it being almost double that, I don't know. No idea.
There's no hope AMD or Intel make any difference so best not to buy anything.
GTX 970 has about 1/10th the transistors of a RTX 5700. That actually makes the 5700 the better buy.
CheeseballGood catch. Unfortunately, Best Buy US has it at this price:


Not sure we should blame Best Buy or ASUS for this markup specifically from this one retailer. For sure we can partially blame NVIDIA for not supplying enough GPUs to meet the demand.
How many would be enough?
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#42
Cheeseball
Not a Potato
Visible NoiseHow many would be enough?
Enough to meet the expected demand during its sales lifetime. A consumer graphics card should be easily available to purchase like any other computer component. And yes, this argument goes towards AMD as well with the 9800X3D supply issue.

If there are supply issues, then they simply need to do whatever they can to make more. If they don't have supply because they're concentrating on a different market, well that's a whole different issue that still lays the blame on them.
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#43
Visible Noise
CheeseballEnough to meet the expected demand during its sales lifetime. A consumer graphics card should be easily available to purchase like any other computer component. And yes, this argument goes towards AMD as well with the 9800X3D supply issue.

If there are supply issues, then they simply need to do whatever they can to make more. If they don't have supply because they're concentrating on a different market, well that's a whole different issue that still lays the blame on them.
How does Nvidia or AMD “make more” when they don’t “make” anything?

You know fab lead times are 6-12 months. When placing your initial order you have to guess what the market will be like in a year. If you are too optimistic you could easily put yourself out of business. It has happened to AMD multiple times.
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#44
TheDeeGee
rv8000MSRP is a lie for this entire generation, what more proof do we need?
MSRP has been false dor a decade now.

In the EU anyway.
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#45
Cheeseball
Not a Potato
Visible NoiseHow does Nvidia or AMD “make more” when they don’t “make” anything?

You know fab lead times are 6-12 months. When placing your initial order you have to guess what the market will be like in a year. If you are too optimistic you could easily put yourself out of business. It has happened to AMD multiple times.
Your first question is answered by your second question which still puts the blame on the chip designer making that fab order. Since they're the ones who put the order in, why didn't they increase priority for the GPUs for consumer graphics cards at the time? They have previous market knowledge that would help with avoiding surplus of stock. This is why people are accusing NVIDIA of intentionally limiting stock which in turns causes these price hikes from their OEMs and retailers.

For AMD's case, they most likely under-ordered and did not expect the 9800X3D to be more popular than the 7800X3D. Hopefully we won't see the same supply shit with the RX 9070 series.
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#46
watzupken
This is not something new. All these companies did the same when Ampere was launched. They see the opportunity to make a handsome profit and jacked the prices up by more than double. I believe Asus claimed that the MSRP defined by Nvidia will make them broke. While this may be possible, but again, they chose to sell a product for a company that will make them broke. And to be honest, the price increase for Asus’ Blackwell offering is excessive. You just have to look at the Astral series over the Founder’s Edition to find a ludicrous premium that Asus demands. The GPU build is premium, but is it worth paying so much more for what is being offered?
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#47
Cheeseball
Not a Potato
watzupkenThis is not something new. All these companies did the same when Ampere was launched. They see the opportunity to make a handsome profit and jacked the prices up by more than double. I believe Asus claimed that the MSRP defined by Nvidia will make them broke. While this may be possible, but again, they chose to sell a product for a company that will make them broke. And to be honest, the price increase for Asus’ Blackwell offering is excessive. You just have to look at the Astral series over the Founder’s Edition to find a ludicrous premium that Asus demands. The GPU build is premium, but is it worth paying so much more for what is being offered?


Really crazy pricing. +$1080 over MSRP of a base model. (Taken from Best Buy US)

EDIT: Even more price gouging, although not as much as ASUS' above:

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#48
Blueberries
Why buy an MSRP card when you can get a cooler looking plastic shroud for an additional $300?
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#49
alwayssts
_roman_#9
I would not take any of those badges serious. I did in the past. That time is gone for some reason. Just one of many stickers so the product page can advertise with a certain random site with a certain random badge.
It's something like that, my sweet, sweet Summer child. Something like that.
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#50
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
GhostRyderYea, and people wonder why I do not recommend Asus products anymore. Their behavior over the last 10 years has gotten to be horrible, terrible RMA service, ridiculous pricing, mark ups, etc.

I am not surprised by this, and it just furthers me from recommending them.
Its the same for me, plus their gpp tactics, no thank you, asus can pound sand.
N3utroIt probably will be easier to get one at MSRP in a few months when supply issues have been fixed and everything is not out of stock all the time
Good luck with that msrp is a lie
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