Monday, March 17th 2025

AMD's Ryzen AI MAX+ 395 Delivers up to 12x AI LLM Performance Compared to Intel's "Lunar Lake"

AMD's latest flagship APU, the Ryzen AI MAX+ 395 "Strix Halo," demonstrates some impressive performance advantages over Intel's "Lunar Lake" processors in large language model (LLM) inference workloads, according to recent benchmarks on AMD's blog. Featuring 16 Zen 5 CPU cores, 40 RDNA 3.5 compute units, and over 50 AI TOPS via its XDNA 2 NPU, the processor achieves up to 12.2x faster response times than Intel's Core Ultra 258V in specific LLM scenarios. Notably, Intel's Lunar Lake has four E-cores and four P-cores, which in total is half of the Ryzen AI MAX+ 395 CPU core count, but the performance difference is much more pronounced than the 2x core gap. The performance delta becomes even more notable with model complexity, particularly with 14-billion parameter models approaching the limit of what standard 32 GB laptops can handle.

In LM Studio benchmarks using an ASUS ROG Flow Z13 with 64 GB unified memory, the integrated Radeon 8060S GPU delivered 2.2x higher token throughput than Intel's Arc 140V across various model architectures. Time-to-first-token metrics revealed a 4x advantage in smaller models like Llama 3.2 3B Instruct, expanding to 9.1x with 7-8B parameter models such as DeepSeek R1 Distill variants. AMD's architecture particularly excels in multimodal vision tasks, where the Ryzen AI MAX+ 395 processed complex visual inputs up to 7x faster in IBM Granite Vision 3.2 3B and 6x faster in Google Gemma 3 12B compared to Intel's offering. The platform's support for AMD Variable Graphics Memory allows allocating up to 96 GB as VRAM from systems equipped with 128 GB unified memory, enabling the deployment of state-of-the-art models like Google Gemma 3 27B Vision. The processor's performance advantages extend to practical AI applications, including medical image analysis and coding assistance via higher-precision 6-bit quantization in the DeepSeek R1 Distill Qwen 32B model.
Source: AMD Blog
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23 Comments on AMD's Ryzen AI MAX+ 395 Delivers up to 12x AI LLM Performance Compared to Intel's "Lunar Lake"

#1
oxrufiioxo
No one can stop the AI train!!!! Choo-Choo all aboard suckas!!!
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#2
igormp
Given that Strix Halo has almost DOUBLE the memory bandwidth of the LNL CPU, (128-bit@8533MT/s, 136.5GB/s vs 256-bit@8000MT/s, 256GB/s), has 5x more compute units (40 vs 8), and almost 6x the TDP, it'd be really shameful if it didn't manage to beat the ultra low power competitor to begin with.
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#3
bonehead123
"It don't take money, don't take no fame, You don't need no credit card, to ride this train" - Huey Lewis

Why, you may ask yourself...

Cause da AI already has all your personal & financial info, so just go for it !
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#4
Daven
igormpGiven that Strix Halo has almost DOUBLE the memory bandwidth of the LNL CPU, (128-bit@8533MT/s, 136.5GB/s vs 256-bit@8000MT/s, 256GB/s), has 5x more compute units (40 vs 8), and almost 6x the TDP, it'd be really shameful if it didn't manage to beat the ultra low power competitor to begin with.
While all true and I'm sure Strix Halo is more expensive than Lunar Lake, I think the main point is that you can get all of that in a similar laptop form factor as one with Lunar Lake. So if you need a laptop to do AI, don't settle for the top brand...they can't do it like AMD can and that's the message.
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#5
R0H1T
oxrufiioxoNo one can stop the AI train!!!! Choo-Choo all aboard suckas!!!

bonehead123Cause da AI already has all your personal & financial info, so just go for it !
And soon it'll have/own you as well, so be ready to be slaves again!
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#6
Philaphlous
It'd be nice to see leaps and bounds performance per watt boost... still waiting to upgrade my 2020 laptop for something much more energy efficient. I think AMD has the huge upper hand compared to InTel on efficiency....we'll see with this new gen.
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#7
hsew
Really looking forward to Lunar Lake Halo now (btw has anybody heard any news about it?). Seems like when it comes to APUs, AMD is only winning in outright CPU performance but Intel is winning in efficiency. AI benches will be a whole new frontier.
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#8
G777
PhilaphlousIt'd be nice to see leaps and bounds performance per watt boost... still waiting to upgrade my 2020 laptop for something much more energy efficient. I think AMD has the huge upper hand compared to InTel on efficiency....we'll see with this new gen.
What are you using your laptop for? For lower power stuff I'd say Lunar Lake has an edge over Strix Point, but AMD will win in higher power tasks. Might be worth trying some laptops out in person to see how they actually handle in real life.
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#9
john_
hsewbut Intel is winning in efficiency
Intel started optimizing for efficiency 15+ years ago, hoping to win some market share in tablets from ARM. They had the manufacturing advantage back then, while also started developing Atom cores to fight ARM. AMD was also playing with little cores for a few years, like Jaguar and Temash, but Su stopped those little cores when she took over, in an effort to cut costs. It makes sense Intel to be ahead in efficiency in many cases, especially at low watts, because of their experience and probably architecture choices over the years.
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#10
igormp
DavenWhile all true and I'm sure Strix Halo is more expensive than Lunar Lake, I think the main point is that you can get all of that in a similar laptop form factor as one with Lunar Lake. So if you need a laptop to do AI, don't settle for the top brand...they can't do it like AMD can and that's the message.
If by "similar form factor" you mean just being a laptop, then ok.
If not, those will be in really different segments. Strix halo will be present in laptops that closely resemble gaming laptops, way chonkier and with way higher power consumption.
Lunar lake at most competes with Strix Point (at least there are notebooks in the same form factor with both options), and more realistically with krackan point given the low power focus.
hsewReally looking forward to Lunar Lake Halo now (btw has anybody heard any news about it?). Seems like when it comes to APUs, AMD is only winning in outright CPU performance but Intel is winning in efficiency. AI benches will be a whole new frontier.
i believe this was just a rumor. LNL is a one-off thing, won't see any other improvements or a next iteration.
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#11
Random_User
oxrufiioxoNo one can stop the AI train!!!! Choo-Choo all aboard suckas!!!
Stay cool, baby! ©

On a serious note, it would be really nice to cut the dumb NPU "cores", and place more CPU cores/GPU CUs, on both Strix Halo, and Strix Point.
So many wasted silicon/die area, just for the sake of dump useless copilot, that phones home 24/7, ath the expence of the user's resources and power.
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#12
john_
Random_UserOn a serious note, it would be really nice to cut the dumb NPU "cores", and place more CPU cores/GPU CUs, on both Strix Halo, and Strix Point.
So many wasted silicon/die area, just for the sake of dump useless copilot, that phones home 24/7, ath the expence of the user's resources and power.
If I am not mistaken, MS requires an NPU for it's AI apps to work in Windows. An NPU with minimum 40 TOPS. If I am not mistaken, then the NPU will not just be a mandatory part of probably every future CPU, but we might start getting refreshes where only the NPU is changed. Imagine waiting a year to get a new CPU line, only to see the same CPU and iGPU parts and only the NPU getting a 10-20% performance increase.
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#13
Random_User
john_If I am not mistaken, MS requires an NPU for it's AI apps to work in Windows. An NPU with minimum 40 TOPS. If I am not mistaken, then the NPU will not just be a mandatory part of probably every future CPU, but we might start getting refreshes where only the NPU is changed. Imagine waiting a year to get a new CPU line, only to see the same CPU and iGPU parts and only the NPU getting a 10-20% performance increase.
Exactly. That's why I've mentioned wasting die area for useless copilot. more "regular" CPU or GPU compute power, could do more good work, intead of generating the lazy tastless obscure images of n*de waifus, or siphoning the private data from the PC with windows OS and SW.
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#14
AnarchoPrimitiv
igormpGiven that Strix Halo has almost DOUBLE the memory bandwidth of the LNL CPU, (128-bit@8533MT/s, 136.5GB/s vs 256-bit@8000MT/s, 256GB/s), has 5x more compute units (40 vs 8), and almost 6x the TDP, it'd be really shameful if it didn't manage to beat the ultra low power competitor to begin with.
If they're in the same price range, than it's a worthwhile comparison
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#15
cfenton
Surely if you were seriously looking for a laptop that could run a LLM (for whatever reason), a MacBook Pro with an M4 Max would be the most obvious competition for the Strix Halo. How does it fare in that comparison?
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#16
igormp
AnarchoPrimitivIf they're in the same price range, than it's a worthwhile comparison
So far Strix Halo products seem to go for a bit more than LNL/Strix Point laptops.
cfentonSurely if you were seriously looking for a laptop that could run a LLM (for whatever reason), a MacBook Pro with an M4 Max would be the most obvious competition for the Strix Halo. How does it fare in that comparison?
It fares far wore, given that a M4 Max has pretty much double the memory bandwidth.
However, a M4 Max is also a tad more expensive than an strix halo config. Strix Halo is closer to a M4 Pro in performance when it comes to LLM stuff.
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#17
trsttte
12 times the performance in the 0 products where it's available?

This is a chip I want in my next laptop, but none are available to buy. Not even the mini-pc options are available yet!
Random_UserOn a serious note, it would be really nice to cut the dumb NPU "cores", and place more CPU cores/GPU CUs, on both Strix Halo, and Strix Point.
So many wasted silicon/die area, just for the sake of dump useless copilot, that phones home 24/7, ath the expence of the user's resources and power.
That NPU can do specific tasks a lot more efficiently than tapping the GPU compute units, it's just that at the moment that task is just running the stupid microsoft copilot. If developers start tapping the npu to do more usefull stuff it's just another processing unit, if it continues to be reserved for microsoft yeah, waste of sand
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#18
cfenton
igormpIt fares far wore, given that a M4 Max has pretty much double the memory bandwidth.
However, a M4 Max is also a tad more expensive than an strix halo config. Strix Halo is closer to a M4 Pro in performance when it comes to LLM stuff.
Thanks for that information. I could only find information about the M4 Pro and it looked pretty close to the Strix Halo, so I figured the Max would be faster.

AMD is also comparing their highest end full power laptop chip to Intel's best thin and light chip. A more honest comparison would have been with the 285HX. I'm sure the Strix Halo would still win since it has the superior memory and GPU, but I bet it would be closer.
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#19
Denver
oxrufiioxoNo one can stop the AI train!!!! Choo-Choo all aboard suckas!!!
This train has no brakes and will leave countless victims in its wake.
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#20
trsttte
cfentonAMD is also comparing their highest end full power laptop chip to Intel's best thin and light chip. A more honest comparison would have been with the 285HX. I'm sure the Strix Halo would still win since it has the superior memory and GPU, but I bet it would be closer.
It's a scummy tactic but the result wouldn't be that different, the ammount of compute units on Strix Halo combined with the larger bandwidth of the 256 mem bus is really on a different level to any of the Intel offerings - in a way it makes this a bit pathetic because of just how different Lunar Lake and Strix Halo are, the more relevant comparison would really be Strix Point or Kraken Point which are regular CPU like Lunar Lake.
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#21
blinnbanir
I don't care what anyone says. This chip is a Unicorn in every single way. The Specs are insane. The performance is also insane. If these ever come to desktop get As Rock for some APU love. Not many people are aware that As Rock is the only MB vendor that provides 120Hz support on DP and HDMI on the MB. I know we have 240 and 360 hz monitors in the space now but this chip is crazy good and puts many DGPU laptops to shame.
trsttte12 times the performance in the 0 products where it's available?

This is a chip I want in my next laptop, but none are available to buy. Not even the mini-pc options are available yet!



That NPU can do specific tasks a lot more efficiently than tapping the GPU compute units, it's just that at the moment that task is just running the stupid microsoft copilot. If developers start tapping the npu to do more usefull stuff it's just another processing unit, if it continues to be reserved for microsoft yeah, waste of sand
There is apparently an Asus laptop with it. I have seen reviewers talking about it.
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#22
Squared
john_If I am not mistaken, MS requires an NPU for it's AI apps to work in Windows. An NPU with minimum 40 TOPS. If I am not mistaken, then the NPU will not just be a mandatory part of probably every future CPU, but we might start getting refreshes where only the NPU is changed. Imagine waiting a year to get a new CPU line, only to see the same CPU and iGPU parts and only the NPU getting a 10-20% performance increase.
Isn't that exactly what AMD's mobile Ryzen 8040 series was? So the refreshes with only updated NPUs are already happening. Sad.
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#23
Epaminombas
NPUs arrived late on PCs, there are already NPUs on cell phones.

Do you wish that only cell phones had NPUs and not PCs?
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