Water cooled 5090 at Micro Center by me are priced at $3,719.99 (after taxes will be roughly $4015), maybe this is the price that Zotac is hoping to work its way up to.

Charge as much as you want.. no one is gonna buy it.

If people do buy it.. I don't know what to say that is polite :)

freeagentCharge as much as you want.. no one is gonna buy it.

If people do buy it.. I don't know what to say that is polite :)

If they do buy, unless they really have a LOT of disposible income...which you know...is a problem probably in its own right, this is a choice with consequences.

They do this which means they cant do X, X being a nice dinner with the family at a restaurant, new shoes, some renovation of the house, you name it, that is not going to happen now, its a choice but somewhere, someone else will somewhat suffer for it and Nvidia/AMD is laughing all the way to the bank.

its just sad people rewards this behavior, its always my dream for once that just everyone would be like me, just not buy it.
Can you even imagine it, the hilarious situation if NOBODY bought a RTX5090/5080? that would be historical.

ZoneDymoIf they do buy, unless they really have a LOT of disposible income...which you know...is a problem probably in its own right, this is a choice with consequences.

They do this which means they cant do X, X being a nice dinner with the family at a restaurant, new shoes, some renovation of the house, you name it, that is not going to happen now, its a choice but somewhere, someone else will somewhat suffer for it and Nvidia/AMD is laughing all the way to the bank.

its just sad people rewards this behavior, its always my dream for once that just everyone would be like me, just not buy it.
Can you even imagine it, the hilarious situation if NOBODY bought a RTX5090/5080? that would be historical.

I agree with you, my friend. I truly wonder if many are buying them, though, especially since the release of 9070xt. I feel most rational people of non-infinite wealth are not.
There will always be the (generally not well-informed) others, but that's not my call to make, especially if that's their informed decision (although I understand your argument and agree with it in principle).

I feel, and I could be wrong, that most people are starting to wise up to the idea of what's good-enough (for a resolution) and what that's worth relatively-speaking.

For me personally, I've always looked at gfx cards as they should be at least one step up from a console, but should not cost over twice as much to make sense. Certainly not 4x or more.
Features may evolve, but this general rule of thumb needs to hold true since relative performance to a base console consistently becomes cheaper; for similar price per resolution over base features must evolve.
So, say if 1440p (instead of 1080p), around 30% more or so. For 4k not more than 2x or so. IOW, somewhere in the neighborhood of ~$500-800; I also think the market agrees with me (and probably you).

I also think when all is said and done that will be the full scope of N48; 1440p raster/up-scaled RT for ~$500 or so and 1440pRT (or 1080pRT->4k up-scaling) for $800 or less.
IOW, I think AMD got the memo (current prices due to demand and adjustments [especially after any further launches] not withstanding). Nvidia...not so much.

The thing that truly truly bugs me about 5080/5090 is that one can absolutely ascertain where next-gen consoles will perform. They will be built toward 1440pRT native or 1080pRT->4k up-scaling.
That's around 60TF+ or so for the GPU; around where a 5080 OCs but not limited by buffer size (which does/will matter).
Who knows what they will cost, but the fact remains 5080 is not that and the consoles will cost much less. 5090 not one step up from that. Both purposely below; 5080 same market as 9070 xt.
9070 xt is one step down from those consoles as well, but also makes sense, as for all intents and purposes even if game requirements increase for that spec 9070 XT should still stay in the VRR window for it's market.
Which is 1440p w/ quality up-scaling. Where it is currently ~60fps mins and may drop (come those consoles) down to the towards the bottom of the (48hz) VRR window, but not under it.
No true market above that exists (outside a 4090 that isn't really realistic to source; it's also absurdly out of any price/perf window), and certainly none (including the 5090) for native 4kRT.
Hence the 5000 series truly is overpriced trash that is (mostly) taking advantage of the uninformed. If people prefer nVIDIA for whatever reason, that's fine...but these are bad products (and prices).
Especially when we know next-gen those markets will be not only be filled, but for much lower price. As I've said before, I bet a 192-bit Rubin outperforms a 5080 in very real ways for less; bc they need a 1440p part.
And for less money and to be a relative value compared to a console. Currently they don't need to do that, especially as AMD don't have such a part (yet), and hence didn't make it...but still charge as if they did!