Wednesday, September 3rd 2008
AMD Desktop Roadmap for 2009 Reveals no Surprises
Without doubt, AMD needs something revolutionary to pull it out of the mess it set itself in. AMD's first reaction to the Conroe onslaught was to lower prices and build up a "Smarter Choice" repute, though with successive price cuts from Intel and down-scale products based on the Core architecture coming out by the fortnight, and the transit to 45nm fab process, there's been an increasing need for AMD to get back to the drawing boards with their CPU division.
From what looks like an excerpt from an AMD company slide, can be seen AMD's CPU plans for 2009. The chart broadly shows that K10 architecture is here to stay. Throughout the year, desktop CPUs based on the K10 architecture feature in the roadmap, with no signs of their "truly next-gen" architecture. AMD completes its transit to the 45nm silicon fabrication process and will finally embrace DDR3 system memory standards. To begin with, the fact that the Deneb core's entry slightly steps into the 2008 column shows that the Deneb core-based desktop CPU could release sometime towards the very end of this year. Sources note that two models based on the Deneb core could be out by the end of this year. It supports both DDR2 and DDR3 memory standards and socket compatible with current AM2+ and future AM3. From what's known so far, AM3 is the same 940 pin design that adds pins for the DDR3 memory interconnect between the CPU and the memory.Deneb as we know is the K10 based quad-core 45nm derivative with 6 MB L3 caches. While Deneb aims to provide AM2+ and AM3 socket support, AMD will launch another quad-core chip core called Propus. This core lacks a level 3 cache, and is exclusive to the AM3. Presumably, it becomes exclusive since it might lack DDR2 memory controllers that Deneb and its predecessors had. Propus is aimed more to be a value offering, but hey, AMD's CPU lineup itself is basing heavily on the value moniker.
Towards mid-2009 a high-end Deneb FX chip is planned. The roadmap shows it to be exclusive to AM3 requiring DDR3 memory. Although it was indicated earlier about big plans to port this core to socket 1207 and possible DSDC based multi-CPU ganging, it's evidently out of the desktop roadmap, at least for 2009.
Moving on to triple-core and pretty-much the same form of variation as that between Deneb and Propus can be seen with Heka and Rana cores, with Rana lacking the L3 cache. These cores come in quick succession after Propus. There's a dual-core part on the chart called Regor as well. These 45nm AM3 supportive chips feature 1 MB L2 caches per core.
Moving on the thermal characteristics and the lineup looks largely the same except for that the highest offerings are rated at 125W followed by 95W chips and some Propus based parts being rated at even 45W. This is in comparison to current 65nm chips using the 140W, 125W and 95W ratings with some Agena parts being rated at even 65W. So there is a reduction attributing to the fab process transit, possibly higher clock speeds, though it isn't significant.
Finally, what's CPU talk without platform talk? Current 7-series chipsets find successors in the form of RD890 for the high-end and RS880D for performance thru mainstream segments. Current SB 750 southbridge chips are their sidekicks. RS880 and RS880C are the more mainstream thru value desktop platforms using the SB710 southbridge chips. The 8-series core logic exclusively supports the AM3 socket.
On the whole it doesn't look like there's something revolutionary though everything depends on how the Deneb core shapes up as it will without doubt be the torch-bearer for AMD in 2009 in its quest for a respectable market position. AMD plays a vital role in both CPU and consumer graphics segments in making sure innovations at humane prices are delivered to the consumer, from whichever market player products come from. Let the game begin.
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From what looks like an excerpt from an AMD company slide, can be seen AMD's CPU plans for 2009. The chart broadly shows that K10 architecture is here to stay. Throughout the year, desktop CPUs based on the K10 architecture feature in the roadmap, with no signs of their "truly next-gen" architecture. AMD completes its transit to the 45nm silicon fabrication process and will finally embrace DDR3 system memory standards. To begin with, the fact that the Deneb core's entry slightly steps into the 2008 column shows that the Deneb core-based desktop CPU could release sometime towards the very end of this year. Sources note that two models based on the Deneb core could be out by the end of this year. It supports both DDR2 and DDR3 memory standards and socket compatible with current AM2+ and future AM3. From what's known so far, AM3 is the same 940 pin design that adds pins for the DDR3 memory interconnect between the CPU and the memory.Deneb as we know is the K10 based quad-core 45nm derivative with 6 MB L3 caches. While Deneb aims to provide AM2+ and AM3 socket support, AMD will launch another quad-core chip core called Propus. This core lacks a level 3 cache, and is exclusive to the AM3. Presumably, it becomes exclusive since it might lack DDR2 memory controllers that Deneb and its predecessors had. Propus is aimed more to be a value offering, but hey, AMD's CPU lineup itself is basing heavily on the value moniker.
Towards mid-2009 a high-end Deneb FX chip is planned. The roadmap shows it to be exclusive to AM3 requiring DDR3 memory. Although it was indicated earlier about big plans to port this core to socket 1207 and possible DSDC based multi-CPU ganging, it's evidently out of the desktop roadmap, at least for 2009.
Moving on to triple-core and pretty-much the same form of variation as that between Deneb and Propus can be seen with Heka and Rana cores, with Rana lacking the L3 cache. These cores come in quick succession after Propus. There's a dual-core part on the chart called Regor as well. These 45nm AM3 supportive chips feature 1 MB L2 caches per core.
Moving on the thermal characteristics and the lineup looks largely the same except for that the highest offerings are rated at 125W followed by 95W chips and some Propus based parts being rated at even 45W. This is in comparison to current 65nm chips using the 140W, 125W and 95W ratings with some Agena parts being rated at even 65W. So there is a reduction attributing to the fab process transit, possibly higher clock speeds, though it isn't significant.
Finally, what's CPU talk without platform talk? Current 7-series chipsets find successors in the form of RD890 for the high-end and RS880D for performance thru mainstream segments. Current SB 750 southbridge chips are their sidekicks. RS880 and RS880C are the more mainstream thru value desktop platforms using the SB710 southbridge chips. The 8-series core logic exclusively supports the AM3 socket.
On the whole it doesn't look like there's something revolutionary though everything depends on how the Deneb core shapes up as it will without doubt be the torch-bearer for AMD in 2009 in its quest for a respectable market position. AMD plays a vital role in both CPU and consumer graphics segments in making sure innovations at humane prices are delivered to the consumer, from whichever market player products come from. Let the game begin.
45 Comments on AMD Desktop Roadmap for 2009 Reveals no Surprises
I wish AMD didnt merge with ATI. If that never happened, then maybe AMD would have focused more on their CPUs then GPUs.
And I think that they have the potential.
Phenom was rushed to the market with a ton of problems. Now it's becoming mature, they have a working southbridge for it, and hopefully the transition to 45 will help power and speed.
For the transition to DDR3 they also should have enough competencies since memory management has been a strong point for AMD since forever.
ATI should also be integrated by now.
This is not to say I wouldnt mind seeing them steal the crown...but if they do, you can believe the era of $1000+ chips would be back and probably even higher. The new chipset and the influx of the 750 SB is wonderful news.
But if they do follow this plan to the letter they will be relagating themselves to the 2nd place for quite some time. The new Deneb will prolly beat Conroe, Wolfdale and Yorkfield but Nehalem is a different story. In this case, they will occupy the niche of value oriented but not very high performance CPUs, just like VIA occupies the niche of low power, low performance CPUs.
I'm also kinda dissapointed that they won't be putting out a new Southbridge for Am3, SB750 is great but in a year it will be considred old tech, hell, Intel spews out a new ICH every time they have a new chipset out, why cant AMD do that?
the current phenom x4 already maxed out the naming scheme , being at 9950 I wonder what is the name of the next denebs ?!
will they start adding prefix letters like intel's QX - Q - E ...
or will they continue from 10000 :shadedshu
what do you think ?