ensabrenoir.....i'd like to hope that 80% of this is just nvidia and amd fans just poking each other.......cause if it ain't .....mankind need much more prayer than I thought. I mean how dare anyone use their hard earned money to to buy what they want instead of what i think is better.....how dare they. Maybe if i posted the definition of a halo product.....

It's just another Nvidia sucks / AMD sucks thread. :)

Sony Xperia SIt was just a joke.

What I mean is that if there is demand for Kepler Titans but because of profits interest or some political, nvidia hides the inventory (or not produce enough), then they actually 'violate' these "laws".

Yep, "laws" made to be broken or manipulated.

And NVIDIA or AMD don't works for charity, they need have money.

raschmidtProblem is, a lot of buyers are so self-centered its beyond reasoning. They think things that cost money and time to develop should be given to them at whatever they can afford just because they want it and haven't come to grips with the way the world works.

Its only a small # of people that think that but make the most noise about it, mostly all fans of AMD. Expect to get everything for next to nothing.

raschmidtWhat laws did they violate? So they wrote 4GB when it should have been 3.5GB? Dear god that's worse than the holocaust, they should all be sent to ISIS headquarters and beheaded immediately.

the card DID have 4gb on it, they didn't lie about it.

Sony Xperia SWhat I mean is that if there is demand for Kepler Titans but because of profits interest or some political, nvidia hides the inventory (or not produce enough), then they actually 'violate' these "laws".

Um that still doesn't say What law's they violated. They didn't make enough is not breaking the law. Only people that think so are complete idiots.

Couple of years ago:




Currently it's more like.

nVidia : "wow to expensive" , "wow scammers" , "wow no groundbreaking performance" , "wow can't 4k with 960" , "wow 2gb only" , "wow 12gb too much"

AMD : "wow no cards" , "wow shitty drivers" , "wow Mantle died" , "wow power consumption" , "wow so much heat" , "wow so much noise", "wow VRM cooling"

Both companies have released good products and shitty products. Both companies work by the same principle: MAKE. EFFING. MONEY. If they can give you something good that works in the process, that's a plus.

Was hoping for more honestly. If it was clocked at 1300 MHz it would have been truly powerful.

DaemmonnVidia : "wow to expensive" , "wow scammers" , "wow no groundbreaking performance" , "wow can't 4k with 960" , "wow 2gb only" , "wow 12gb too much"

a gtx960 was NEVER ment for 4k to start with, not sure how that part of the statement in that line even works less you are a complete moron tool.

arbitera gtx960 was NEVER ment for 4k to start with, not sure how that part of the statement in that line even works less you are a complete moron tool.

Press the little "System Specs". Watch what GPU I have. Guess what? I'm terribly happy with it.

The idea of the post was the shit that "one side" says repeatedly about the other. That's why it's inside quotations marks. That's why I'm not a complete "moron tool" and you have some reading comprehension issues.

Love you anyway mate.

TheHunter390X eng sample is out since december 2014, just like TitanX aka GM200..
Early 390X has proven to be faked, but 2nd leak with X8192 was legit.

Yeah right. The result was supposedly validated ( check box ticked), but any cursory check of the 3DM results showsit isn't there. Anybody might think some guerrilla marketing was in play.

Sony Xperia SIt was just a joke.

Much like you posting 8 times in a thread of 60 replies for a card you have no interest in, bombarding an Nvidia thread with AMD rhetoric.
You do realize if the roles were reversed that the AMD fanboys would be holding the mother of all tantrums over their thread being derailed.

HumanSmokeMuch like you posting 8 times in a thread of 60 replies for a card you have no interest in, bombarding an Nvidia thread with AMD rhetoric.
You do realize if the roles were reversed that the AMD fanboys would be holding the mother of all tantrums over their thread being derailed.

That isn't entirely true. If you give it to me as a present, I would happily accept it. :D Or if you give it to me for 200 euros, for instance.

Sony Xperia SThat isn't entirely true. If you give it to me as a present, I would happily accept it. :D Or if you give it to me for 200 euros, for instance.

Hah. I think if someone gave you a Titan X you would just sell it and buy two R9 390s when they come out which would probably run all over a Titan X. Hey, wait a minute. ;)

nvidia knows there's enough demand for titan cards; people who need/want a powerful card with a huge memory bank or some other who simply have more money than sense and just want the highest card available, no matter what. It's a niche market but it sells, so why not take advantage of it? It's business 101.

As for those people who do not fall in the above categories, they'll wait for a 980 Ti with 6 GB of memory and at a much lower price, which might even turn out faster than titan X anyway.

eddmannvidia knows there's enough demand for titan cards; people who need/want a powerful card with a huge memory bank or some other who simply have more money than sense and just want the highest card available, no matter what. It's a niche market but it sells, so why not take advantage of it? It's business 101.

As for those people who do not fall in the above categories, they'll wait for a 980 Ti with 6 GB of memory and much lower price, which might even turn out faster than titan X anyway.

The Big Maxwell Flagship card strictly for gaming should be faster than this Titan X especially if the Titan X turns out to be a cut down chip like the first Titan was. It's likely not a cut down though since the 28nm process is so mature that there's probably not very many partially defective chips. That's what I'm waiting for and if Nvidia does skip it then that may mean the 16nm Pascals are waiting in the wings for production. Even the mid range Pascals should very fast.

Big Maxwell Gaming Flagship with 6 GB VRAM for no more than $700 and I'm on it.

ShockGAnyway, score for 4-way is heavily CPU bound as 980Ti x4 on water can score upwards of 26K
single card result is ok ish.

Wow, a Time Traveler.
Can you PM to please what is this year UEFA CL winner, and the final score? I will do a killin' !!!

Cybrnook2002

What's this? Going to masturbate or what? :(

64KIt's just another Nvidia sucks / AMD sucks thread. :)

One of the many, the only thing to surprise me is that we have not got the whole gang together yet as we are missing a few from each side ready to scream for their company :P.

64KThe Big Maxwell Flagship card strictly for gaming should be faster than this Titan X especially if the Titan X turns out to be a cut down chip like the first Titan was. It's likely not a cut down though since the 28nm process is so mature that there's probably not very many partially defective chips. That's what I'm waiting for and if Nvidia does skip it then that may mean the 16nm Pascals are waiting in the wings for production. Even the mid range Pascals should very fast.

Big Maxwell Gaming Flagship with 6 GB VRAM for no more than $700 and I'm on it.

It better not be, that would be once again another one of those rising middle fingers of doom (referring to the cut down chip part). I think the gaming variant will be faster mostly in core clocks and possibly memory clocks, but I still want the Titan X to be fully unlocked this round and not another cut down one waiting for the true card to show up later.

Xzibit

You beat me to it, I was about to make the same joke except using a video snippet :P

arbiterIts only a small # of people that think that but make the most noise about it, mostly all fans of AMD. Expect to get everything for next to nothing.

There are people like that but most people just expect reasonable prices for GPU's which is becoming less and less lately until the recent generations which bot were released at a much more reasonable price point than the last ones.

arbiterthe card DID have 4gb on it, they didn't lie about it.

By your logic, if I solder on 8 more gigabytes of memory onto a GPU then it has now gained 8 more gigabytes of ram regardless if or how well it can be used.

arbiterUm that still doesn't say What law's they violated. They didn't make enough is not breaking the law. Only people that think so are complete idiots.

I am not sure but I think he's getting at they intentionally held back supply/manufacturing to make it seem like Kepler was in short supply/hard to make to drive up/keep the prices high. Not that I agree with that but that is just my guess as to what he is getting at...

Either way guys, this is just one leaked benchmark. We should all hope its true to see some seriously nice performance gains as even if you have no intentions of buying it we still love to see things go up because that means all performance of GPU's is on the rise (next generation cards). If this did turn out fake, no harm no foul and we only got more anticipation for things coming soon... Either way until these things (GTX Titan X and R9 390X) are being tested with games by more than just leaks/the parent company we have no idea where they will actually fall.

.

Sony Xperia SWhat's this? Going to masturbate or what? :(

That was moron Al Bundy getting into his pose to watch television.

RecusThen you are doing it wrong.

AMD Announces Ultra-Enthusiast's Radeon R9 295X2 GPU $1500

AMD Officially Confirms New Radeon Flagship – R9 390X Ultra-Enthusiast Graphics Card ~$700-$800 This is way above for AMD user. lololo

LOL, while nVidia were selling their dual card for 3k.

The rest is a rumor, how ever i do believe it be 100's$ cheaper than this Titan will be released at.

HumanSmokeYeah right. The result was supposedly validated ( check box ticked), but any cursory check of the 3DM results showsit isn't there. Anybody might think some guerrilla marketing was in play.


Much like you posting 8 times in a thread of 60 replies for a card you have no interest in, bombarding an Nvidia thread with AMD rhetoric.
You do realize if the roles were reversed that the AMD fanboys would be holding the mother of all tantrums over their thread being derailed.

So what, same thing with this TitanX, no real validation info,.. But what caught my eye was it has a weaker gpu score, overall also..
That's why I mentioned that, idc about nvidia or AMD, I just care what's the best bang for the buck and this TitanX obviously isn't... Normal geforce variant might be if the price is right.


PS
The only fanboy here is you, sometimes so much it hurts.. And you do the same in AMD threads trolling with nvidia - like that guy nvidia pr Rollo something.. Just saying,



btw here is one with 4x 390X @ Firestrike Extreme... Just for the sake of it.
www.eteknix.com/amd-r9-390x-benchmarks-surface/


Peace out.:cool:

TheHunterPS The only fanboy here is you, sometimes so much it hurts..

If you truly believe that statement, you are most definitely blind to the hypocrisy of it. There are many people posting on this thread that are absolute fanboys.

Humansmoke sticks up for Nvidia, through logical arguments and doesn't generally resort to name calling
Xzibit does the exact same for AMD. Both Humansmoke and Xzibit could be evil and opposite twins.

These are the two who generally make opposing and logical, often referenced arguments. Neither are fanboys but both definitely lean toward a certain product defence. I'm quite sure HS would happily buy AMD and I guarantee he has in the past and I'm pretty sure Xzibit is also indifferent to purchasing either brand.

Neither are fanboys.

A fanboy resorts to petty namecalling and statements revolving around, "Brand 'X' is going to destroy brand 'Y' because brand 'Y' sux" or "Brand X rulez and brand 'Y' makes nothing but shit stuff" or "only dicks buy brand 'x'".

Fanboys dont use logic.

To be honest, Xzibit's only post in this thread thus far is not in his usual character. Shame on you dude - where's your logically pointed and well versed discussion?

Anyhoo, Let's get back to either not talking in this thread or analysing shady benchmarks (from either camp).

FTR, I wish AMD would push the 390X out faster to force NV's hand. We all know the 390X is going to be good but what we don't know is how the pricing and future stacks will work.

TheHunterSo what, same thing with this TitanX, no real validation info,..

Why, yes it is - but I'm not the one claiming the Titan X score is genuine.


BTW: I was the one who first posted that supposed 390X 3DM score here....but at least I had the sense to say it was purported, not claim it as legitimate. Just as well since it was proven fake just a few posts later.

GhostRyderThere are people like that but most people just expect reasonable prices for GPU's which is becoming less and less lately until the recent generations which bot were released at a much more reasonable price point than the last ones.

Well problem is what people think is reasonable well, people think that AMD is reasonable but look at their financial state at the moment and see where their pricing as gotten them? Way AMD has done things is way to being outta business.

GhostRyderBy your logic, if I solder on 8 more gigabytes of memory onto a GPU then it has now gained 8 more gigabytes of ram regardless if or how well it can be used.

It is there and is useable so in court of law they didn't do anything wrong on ram front as it is 4gb and is there and useable.

arbiterWell problem is what people think is reasonable well, people think that AMD is reasonable but look at their financial state at the moment and see where their pricing as gotten them? Way AMD has done things is way to being outta business.

Has nothing to do with their pricing (Well not nearly as much). AMD nor Nvidia are going to sell a card at a loss so even with the drop in price of the current R9 series unless they are writing it off to get rid of it by taking a loss instead of letting unused inventory sit around then chances are they are still making something off the sales. Most of the financial crisis comes from a lack of OEM's mixed with poor spending choices in many departments. They can develop all they want but unless they have OEM's under their belt they are not making much selling individual chips to people like us even when selling gaming GPU's and what not. More sales come from OEM's buying in extreme bulk and for the longest time one of the only major OEM's you see with AMD CPU's/APU's is HP (Minus a few smaller OEMS like MSI). Same for the GPU department when there is a lackluster amount of OEM's putting their GPU's in their machines (Desktop and mobile).

arbiterIt is there and is useable so in court of law they didn't do anything wrong on ram front as it is 4gb and is there and useable.

I would prefer saving that argument for a thread more about it please.

TheHunterSo what, same thing with this TitanX, no real validation info,.. But what caught my eye was it has a weaker gpu score, overall also..
That's why I mentioned that, idc about nvidia or AMD, I just care what's the best bang for the buck and this TitanX obviously isn't... Normal geforce variant might be if the price is right.


PS
The only fanboy here is you, sometimes so much it hurts.. And you do the same in AMD threads trolling with nvidia - like that guy nvidia pr Rollo something.. Just saying,



btw here is one with 4x 390X @ Firestrike Extreme... Just for the sake of it.
www.eteknix.com/amd-r9-390x-benchmarks-surface/


Peace out.:cool:

Well said!

XzibitHey, now... Can't be his twin. I'm not bitter or that old yet. Hes got a few decades on me. I'd like to think I still have some of my looks left since I can still pick up the ladies when they are sober and not have to resort to waiting after the bar closes when they are puking on the side walk or alley with beer goggles to have a chance.

Another difference I don't jump to any ones defense. I don't think of myself/replies of that important that they need to be express at any said opportunity.

Again, well said!

XzibitThere has to be a discussion first.

I try to reply to threads with information linked to source as much as possible or as a light hearted joke. I never go out of my way to constantly troll threads for fun, angst or whatever inner issues people carry with them. Nor do I insert someone in the conversation when that person hasn't even posted in that thread (Looking at my much, much, much older twin).

As far as the benchmarks are concerned. There is nothing concrete. Its a matter of what benchmarks you choose to believe until there verified.

My Unicorn is more real then yours.

Besides didn't Tim Sweeney only get one Titan X. Why is he o/c ?

Darn you made me reply. :p :lovetpu:

Basically, I mean leaked always smells no matter how close to release it is because you start to think how they got their hands on it more than anything. Unless the black market has some GTX Titan X's and R9 390X's rolling around, though I never say they are completely false without there being some solid hard proof of either way.

Titan-X benchmarks could be real, and if so we have something nice to look forward to though ill be waiting for the GTX 1080 (Which is what I believe the next card from them is going to be based on the Titan-X's core) and comparing it to the R9 390X.

XzibitDarn you made me reply. :p :lovetpu:

I haz the control