Thursday, October 15th 2015

NVIDIA Prepares a Controversial Change to its Driver Update Distribution

NVIDIA is preparing a major change to the way it distributes driver updates. You now get new versions of NVIDIA GeForce drivers by either downloading them from the company's websites (NVIDIA.com and GeForce.com), or use GeForce Experience to download and install (update) them for you. NVIDIA plans to change this such, that the latest driver updates will be only available through GeForce Experience, while standalone installers that are downloadable from the website will slow down to a quarterly update cadence.

NVIDIA is currently rolling out new drivers on a monthly basis, sometimes even twice a month, predating major AAA game releases, under its "Game Ready Driver" moniker. If you want the latest drivers to keep up with new game releases, then NVIDIA expects you to use GeForce Experience to update your drivers. Those without Internet connections or building offline (eg: system integrators, first-time installations), will have to use stale drivers from the website (which will be on a slower update cycle), and then update them to the latest using GeForce Experience. NVIDIA's justification for this move is that it finds that 90% of the driver updates are going through GeForce Experience. The part that's controversial about this is that it makes GeForce Experience an app gamers can't do without (and will probably stay loyal to the NVIDIA brand). This change will take effect this December.
Source: AnandTech
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173 Comments on NVIDIA Prepares a Controversial Change to its Driver Update Distribution

#26
W1zzard
rooivalkCould TPU host some kind of 'offline installer' for that?
I'll do my best :)
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#27
SKL_H
It really makes sense if 90% are using NVIDIA Experience and whats nice is that NVIDIA Experience is very neat.
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#28
nickbaldwin86
I unchecked GeForce Experience... I don't like it! nor do I need it. waste of system resources (even tho I have a ton). Just completely unneeded/unwanted.
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#29
MilkyWay
Should just add incremental upgrade via the old nvidia control panel, also that AMD gaming evolved crap is optional i never install it.
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#30
Iceni
This is a shame, The Geforce experience program messes about with my start bar in windows 7.

With 3 monitors running as 1 screen, If I play a game at 5870x1080 and then QTD I can guarantee the start bar will be doing something new. The standard position been centre monitor top. It could end up on the sides of one of the wide monitors, The bottom of one of the screens, Across all 3 screens.

I disabled it for a reason.
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#31
john_
SKL_HIt really makes sense if 90% are using NVIDIA Experience and whats nice is that NVIDIA Experience is very neat.
In Greece when the government wants to rise the price of the tickets in public transportations in Athens, it comes out with reports that 40% of the passengers don't use a ticket. From my experience in multiple occasions, when inspectors get on the bus or a train that I am, they usually find only 1-3 passengers out of usually 30 or 40, without a ticket.

I wouldn't believe that 90%.
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#32
bgunner
Simple, Do not force a program on me that I do not like or don't want to use. There are choices other than Nvidia and not be forced to choke down a performance/resource robbing program. Nope not for me. My next card was going to be another Nvidia but not this time or until they realize they made a boo boo.
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#33
Luka KLLP
I used to have some problems with GE in the past, but lately I it has been working perfectly, and I already use it for my driver updates now anyway :)
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#35
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
Wow, I'm truly amazed! I don't recall seeing this level of outrage when W10 was announced as forcing updates. There was more of it, but I don't recall this much hostility.
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#36
chodaboy19
Nvidia does give you the option to wait for the larger quarterly updates that will be available as standalone packages you can download. :)
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#37
Fluffmeister
I have it installed for ShadowPlay anyway, so ultimately a non issue for me.
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#38
Ikaruga
FluffmeisterI have it installed for ShadowPlay anyway, so ultimately a non issue for me.
I have to agree. I'm one of those guys who usually installs nothing. I have ROG and other software bundle heavy mainboards and I did not install any of those software, same with my soundcards, etc.... but I installed GE because of ShadowPlay and I did not regret it at all. It sits there and does zero bad for me, + the costless recording with my maxwell2 is really nice. (I do not use any of the other features tho, didn't even scan for my games yet)
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#39
lilunxm12
ZeDestructorWell, when 90% of your users use the lazy way, sure. I prefcer manual downloads, because I keep an archive of drivers I've downloaded over the years. Used to go back to the 6x.xx releases, then ZeDestructor's Great Partitioning Fail of 2011 hit and wiped it all.



Err.. wat? GFE is just a neat little program that downloads recommended game settings (based on your GPU config) and lets you apply them, and a neat little GPU-powered game recorder and streaming utility. No ads whatsoever, unless you consider it's support for twitch/youtube streaming to be an ad for twitch/youtube....



According to @rtwjunkie, no.



Couple of hours at most before they get it scripted, then it's a matter of minutes from the notification showing up, if the packager is available.. laptopvideo2go has been doing so for a long time now, and are exceedingly good at it (and patching the infs to support all the GPUs of a single blob).
I don't think it's neat. The reason I uninstalled it was
1) I didn't really need its features
2) I found 3.3GB drive cache in its folder and there's no option in GFE to clear cache
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#40
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
I've never installed GeForce Experience (deliberately unchecking it) and I'm not about to. Glad I avoid NVIDIA hardware like the plague.
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#41
Xzibit
I guess no one read this part of their plan.
The change in driver distribution will be accompanied by a yet to be fully detailed registration system where NVIDIA will be asking users to register their email addresses with GeForce Experience.
You want drivers give us all your details so we can at the very least spam your e-mail box.
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#42
Fluffmeister
As always it seems it's the AMD users that get most upset, you're not affected guys... relax!
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#43
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
I work on computers that have NVIDIA cards. This is going to needlessly complicate installing drivers.

Additionally, what about corporate? Tesla? Quadro? IT is going to be pissed.

AMD CCC notifies of new drivers available but does little more than that--as it should be. What is NVIDIA's motive for doing this? It literally takes a few minutes to build a driver package. They aren't saving much/anything by forcing everyone to use GeForce Experience.
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#44
AsRock
TPU addict
bgunnerSimple, Do not force a program on me that I do not like or don't want to use. There are choices other than Nvidia and not be forced to choke down a performance/resource robbing program. Nope not for me. My next card was going to be another Nvidia but not this time or until they realize they made a boo boo.
But it's the GeForce way it meant to be played.
FluffmeisterAs always it seems it's the AMD users that get most upset, you're not affected guys... relax!
At least i don't have to install bloatware to install new drivers. Which i bet is connecting to google and shit knows were else without you knowing. Lets face it most don't know as they just use windows firewall at best.
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#45
Joss
W1zzardI'll do my best :)
That's the spirit :lovetpu:
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#46
PLAfiller
So much punching....on nVidia....this fan shall avenge. Channel the light of nVidia! Phase crystals charged! Speak quickly, executor!

Engage the slanted bastards! ;)

I don't get why people are getting so swept up about this. It's just a project in beta-phase. Nothing is final. The email subscription is optional as is with thousands other services. Not a word on their professional series on this. Quadro and tesla are not generally used for gaming. I seriously doubt this will affect them in some way.
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#47
Xzibit
FordGT90ConceptI work on computers that have NVIDIA cards. This is going to needlessly complicate installing drivers.

Additionally, what about corporate? Tesla? Quadro? IT is going to be pissed.

AMD CCC notifies of new drivers available but does little more than that--as it should be. What is NVIDIA's motive for doing this? It literally takes a few minutes to build a driver package. They aren't saving much/anything by forcing everyone to use GeForce Experience.
Yup. Imagine if the registration system they employ is user/email. You'd have to log-in to GE every time.
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#48
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
RecusStill trying to draw Nvidia in bad light? Zero ads in GE.





Time to buy 64 GB RAM asap... Not.



Like antivirus software, Steam, Origin, Uplay, Windows, smart phones, Facebook...?




FAIL



When you gonna fight against Steam automatic updates? lol
Thank you for laying it out in such a matter-of-fact way to show that it's not bloatware.
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#49
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
This sucks. Nice one NVIDIA. :rolleyes:
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#50
Fluffmeister
lZKoceSo much punching....on nVidia....this fan shall avenge. Channel the light of nVidia! Phase crystals charged! Speak quickly, executor!

Engage the slanted bastards! ;)

I don't get why people are getting so swept up about this. It's just a project in beta-phase. Nothing is final. The email subscription is optional as is with thousands other services. Not a word on their professional series on this. Quadro and tesla are not generally used for gaming. I seriously doubt this will affect them in some way.
Stop talking sense and get your pitchfork out!
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