..i dont mind the price....I just want it to be ......epic. I want it to beat 1080's in sli 2, I want 2 generations before something matches it. Not the "1170" will match/beat the Titian X in a few months. What good is an epeen if it cant last.........

This is a good opinion article : www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/07/28/stop-that-its-silly-nvidias-new-titan-x-graphics/

idxGP100 was supposed to be GTX 1080/Ti ...
I blame AMD for all this.

If you blame AMD for this, then you are completely clueless.

GP102 is a GP100 with all the irrelevant features for rendering removed. Using GP100 instead would just make it extremely scarce, more expensive and so hot it had to be clocked lower. And GTX 1080 was intended to be based on GP104 all along.

JossThis is a good opinion article : www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/07/28/stop-that-its-silly-nvidias-new-titan-x-graphics/

Missed the mark, as most. This is a halo product for those who don't care about money and are "I WANT IT NOOWWW".

A few months later there will be a 1080 Ti with just as good a performance at a much lower price. Nothing is lost to consumers.

Now if they didn't release a 1080 Ti, then yes, everyone can start kicking NVidia left and right.

I don't know why some people cannot get such an obvious thing.

P.S. I will never buy a titan, even if I had the money. I have no problem with waiting.

erockerPeople still buy these for gaming knowing well that a Ti variant will obviously be out soon?

Yup, it's all about e-peen. Those folks would buy a Bentley, even though there are so many better luxury cars on the market.
They'll be rocking a top-end E-chip, with a top-end motherboard and the most expensive RAM you can buy...no overclocking, and the rig will be mainly used for browsing porn sites and playing CS:GO.
At least that's my experience of the persons who buys Titan series, the second they hit the market.

RockarolaThey'll be rocking a top-end E-chip, with a top-end motherboard and the most expensive RAM you can buy...no overclocking, and the rig will be mainly used for browsing porn sites and playing CS:GO.
At least that's my experience of the persons who buys Titan series, the second they hit the market.

Since the Titan X has three times the HWBot benchmark submissions of all the Fiji-based cards combined, you could then conclude by your data that people buying AMD's top end cards are three times as likely to spend their computer time playing simple run-and-gun games and indulging in run-and-cum desktop gymnastics :eek:

On a more serious note, the first benchmarks for the card that began circulating last week had little to do with gaming....although since this is far from sexy for a mainstream tech forum focused almost wholly on gaming numbers and f.p.s., here's PC World's Titan X SLI review.

PP MguireThen I guess you really can't afford it.

Or \ and has value for money.

PP MguireIt doesn't upset me in the least. My reply to you was fact whether you want to see it that way or not. It's a poor financial decision to buy a new car, but people do it anyways. I doubt seriously they care whether or not you think that. The simple fact is, people will buy these cards knowing the Ti is coming and not care because they can afford to and not look back. End of story. Try and be a troll mod harder please.

Comparing to a car WTF!, a car is more of a requirement for most, a video card like this to a gamer is not.

It's over priced by a lot regardless if some one can afford it or not.

I hope 1080ti will be faster and (a lot) cheaper.

silapakornI hope 1080ti will be faster and (a lot) cheaper.

It will not be faster, but it will probably be a lot cheaper. Still, ~35% more performance than GTX 1080 isn't bad.

But this is the Ti. Next year's TItan will have all the cores intact.

dwadeBut this is the Ti. Next year's TItan will have all the cores intact.

The full GP102 chips are reserved for the low-volume Quadro, and since Nvidia don't have enough full GP102s for Titan, they definitely don't have enough for the even higher volume "1080 Ti", and toss most of the GP102s out the window.
But there might be a Pascal refresh before Volta...

erockerYou're mistaken. You don't accumulate wealth by wasting it.

Same tiring argument, but not surprising.

^ Yup

There is nothing stopping me from wedging a pair of these into every PC in my house. No risk of not being able to pay my bills and carry on living. Me choosing not to, in most part thanks to my own evaluation on the value and the fact it would depreciate at an above average rate, doesn't actually translate to "can't afford it".

Not gonna lie, I am tempted (just the 1 tho!). Reason being, I am concerned there won't be a Ti this round. The gap between the Titan and the 1080 isn't that big and one of the things Titans usually have going for them is ample VRAM, but there isn't a value between the Titan and the 1080. Not to mention, what would the Ti be countering? ^^

If this was the HBM card most thought it would be this time last year, I'd have ordered it already.

GhostRyderI decided I am buying one, have it in the cart right now but I am looking at a G-Sync monitor but can't decide what I want to replace my current Freesync monitor with. I either will buy the same 1440p/144hz monitor or an Ultra-Wide with a similar refresh rate and resolution. I will probably for now (I designed my rig this way) just unplug the 3 R9-290X's from the rig, hook hte quick disconnects to bypass the GPU and test it on the stock cooler before later ordering water blocks. May not do the water blocks until I order a second one.


I think he just meant that people will buy this more because its the top and they expect that over a review. But I completely agree with you as reviews are what most of us judge our purchases on.

Got the Acer X34 Predator and cannot go back to anything else now. 100Hz with G-Spot and 3440x1440 pixels, is perfect for the new Titan.
I have the 1080 card, and except the crappy un-optimised Assassins Creed: Syndicate, which gives ~45 FPS (not that would matter, since G-Spot is doing wonders), all of the other games are reaching 100 easily .

At the end of the day, TPU didn't make any statement or set a complaint about "not having a card before the launch day" as they did it with the NANO and the Radeon Pro Duo (which it seems is in the same market segment as the Titan Xp), so, different company, different treatment I guess?

www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_Pro_Duo_Preview/4.html

Vayra86There is only one question here

How bad will it throttle?

PP MguireIt won't if the proper fan profile is applied.

RejZoRFan profile: 747 Jet Turbo Mode

Throttles at stock but looks fine once power limit is raised:

ensabrenoir..i dont mind the price....I just want it to be ......epic. I want it to beat 1080's in sli 2, I want 2 generations before something matches it. Not the "1170" will match/beat the Titian X in a few months. What good is an epeen if it cant last.........

Amen! If every Titan released lasted as the strongest card for 2 years I would agree $1000 is arguably worth it (especially if it came with triple the normal VRAM, now it doesn't even have that).

Unfortunately it's just a standard flagship card with slightly more than normal VRAM.

BiggieShadyThrottles at stock but looks fine once power limit is raised:

Pointless card. +85°C at all times and there will never be one in lets say, Strix version cooler because NVIDIA wants it all for themselves.

RejZoRPointless card. +85°C at all times and there will never be one in lets say, Strix version cooler because NVIDIA wants it all for themselves.

It has the same cooler as 1080 and draws 100 W more ... not to mention 42 dB at load

One of the first reviews is already out:
www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-Titan-X-Pascal-12GB-Graphics-Card-Review

efikkanIf you blame AMD for this, then you are completely clueless.

GP102 is a GP100 with all the irrelevant features for rendering removed. Using GP100 instead would just make it extremely scarce, more expensive and so hot it had to be clocked lower. And GTX 1080 was intended to be based on GP104 all along.

ok, if you say so.

Prima.VeraGot the Acer X34 Predator and cannot go back to anything else now. 100Hz with G-Spot and 3440x1440 pixels, is perfect for the new Titan.
I have the 1080 card, and except the crappy un-optimised Assassins Creed: Syndicate, which gives ~45 FPS (not that would matter, since G-Spot is doing wonders), all of the other games are reaching 100 easily .

100hz with G-spot? is that a new pronz sponsored monitor tech? VR pronz?

PP MguireIt won't if the proper fan profile is applied.

Define proper, when the AIB's cool 10 degrees C better at lower fan speeds and 10dB lower noise profiles.... that Nvidia FE cooler is a piece of shit, let's not deny the obvious please.

And on the 'affordability' argument...can't even believe you've had that discussion over there. Or that it is even a discussion :P

BiggieShadyThrottles at stock but looks fine once power limit is raised:

*eernnn* wrong the stock cooler is still capping out on the 83C temperature limits. And the fan profile won't change that much either, maybe with turbo jet fanspeed you will cap out at 81 C and see a the clocks bin 13-26mhz higher. Wooptiedoo!

EDIT: I see some people think that this will be 'the full gaming chip'... really? GP106 > 104 > 102 > 100. It's not, it lacks shaders, and the past wasn't any different, only Maxwell was different from the 'norm' where a TI was a cut down from Titan X. Kepler's 780 > 780ti says the opposite, and since the new Titan X is a cut down GP100, this will be a Kepler repeat, not a Maxwell repeat.

Bottom line if you shell out 1200 for this... you've lost the plot and I can't take you seriously :)

Vayra86Define proper, when the AIB's cool 10 degrees C better at lower fan speeds and 10dB lower noise profiles.... that Nvidia FE cooler is a piece of shit, let's not deny the obvious please.

And on the 'affordability' argument...can't even believe you've had that discussion over there. Or that it is even a discussion :p



*eernnn* wrong the stock cooler is still capping out on the 83C temperature limits. And the fan profile won't change that much either, maybe with turbo jet fanspeed you will cap out at 81 C and see a the clocks bin 13-26mhz higher. Wooptiedoo!

EDIT: I see some people think that this will be 'the full gaming chip'... really? GP106 > 104 > 102 > 100. It's not, it lacks shaders, and the past wasn't any different, only Maxwell was different from the 'norm' where a TI was a cut down from Titan X. Kepler's 780 > 780ti says the opposite, and since the new Titan X is a cut down GP100, this will be a Kepler repeat, not a Maxwell repeat.

Bottom line if you shell out 1200 for this... you've lost the plot and I can't take you seriously :)

It's not the stock cooler what is doing it, it's bios temperature target set to ~80°C and power limiter to XX Watts. If you only do a custom fan curve for it temps might be lower; if bios power limiter kicks in before maximum boost clocks and lowers the clocks before temps rises to near default temperature target. Think it this way if nvidia really wanted they could have done that automatic fan curve to bios for reaching lower temps and thus making more noise...

But I agree Nvidia's stock cooler is less than optimal for such a power hungry card: With stock lowish noise profile, awful throttling. And with lower temp profile, awful noise and still might be throttling.

And in a few months we'll have 1080ti with all the cores unlocked same memory for half the price. Wasn't titan supposed to have 24gb anyway ?

$1,200.00 and in one year it will be worth $400.00...lol