Tuesday, September 20th 2016
AMD Vega 10, Vega 20, and Vega 11 GPUs Detailed
AMD CTO, speaking at an investors event organized by Deutsche Bank, recently announced that the company's next-generation "Vega" GPUs, its first high-end parts in close to two years, will be launched in the first half of 2017. AMD is said to have made significant performance/Watt refinements with Vega, over its current "Polaris" architecture. VideoCardz posted probable specs of three parts based on the architecture.
AMD will begin the "Vega" architecture lineup with the Vega 10, an upper-performance segment part designed to disrupt NVIDIA's high-end lineup, with a performance positioning somewhere between the GP104 and GP102. This chip is expected to be endowed with 4,096 stream processors, with up to 24 TFLOP/s 16-bit (half-precision) floating point performance. It will feature 8-16 GB of HBM2 memory with up to 512 GB/s memory bandwidth. AMD is looking at typical board power (TBP) ratings around 225W.
Next up, is "Vega 20." This is one part we've never heard of today, and it's likely scheduled for much later. "Vega 20" is a die-shrink of Vega 10 to the 7 nm GF9 process being developed by GlobalFoundries. It will feature 4,096 stream processors, too, but likely at higher clocks, up to 32 GB of HBM2 memory running full-cylinders at 1 TB/s, PCI-Express gen 4.0 bus support, and a typical board power of 150W.
The "Vega 11" part is a mid-range chip designed to replace "Polaris 10" from the product-stack, and offer slightly higher performance at vastly better performance/Watt. AMD is expecting to roll out the "Navi" architecture some time in 2019, and so AMD will hold out for the next two years with "Vega." There's even talk of a dual-GPU "Vega" product featuring a pair of Vega 10 ASICs.
Source:
VideoCardz
AMD will begin the "Vega" architecture lineup with the Vega 10, an upper-performance segment part designed to disrupt NVIDIA's high-end lineup, with a performance positioning somewhere between the GP104 and GP102. This chip is expected to be endowed with 4,096 stream processors, with up to 24 TFLOP/s 16-bit (half-precision) floating point performance. It will feature 8-16 GB of HBM2 memory with up to 512 GB/s memory bandwidth. AMD is looking at typical board power (TBP) ratings around 225W.
The "Vega 11" part is a mid-range chip designed to replace "Polaris 10" from the product-stack, and offer slightly higher performance at vastly better performance/Watt. AMD is expecting to roll out the "Navi" architecture some time in 2019, and so AMD will hold out for the next two years with "Vega." There's even talk of a dual-GPU "Vega" product featuring a pair of Vega 10 ASICs.
194 Comments on AMD Vega 10, Vega 20, and Vega 11 GPUs Detailed
It doesn't matter if they make the card with potatos or Jet packs. What matters is the final product.
Furthermore it kinda sounded like Nvidia was looking at GDDR6 over HBM2. GDDR6 will offer HBM1 - Cheap HBM2 like performance, but with 3x the power usage.
to silence:
to slowly back peddling....
then a "Second place Champions" /great value /
a little something something for our loyal sheep release......
...... yep....typical Amd.....
If we drop "the whole HBM vs GDDR5 thing", all that's left is that AMD will have a part that's as powerful as the GTX 1080, only a year later. Are you happier now?
Google is my friend - the only confirmation of sorts are 'we will probably'. Seeing as GP102 launched with good ol' GDDR5, I think we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves right now. This falls into the same category as GlobalFoundries being all happy about how they are going to push 7nm very soon. Meanwhile, we've been sitting at 28nm for over two years longer than expected and we saw Intel move away from Tick/Tock.
Perspective ;)
But yeah bummer...
The TFLOPS are there but it just doesn't translate in to equalivent performance so 12TFLOPS looks sexy it just don't translate 1:1 with nVidia unfortunately.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGA
How Vega fairs against Volta remains to be seen and until I see reviews of the final product on TPU which shows it beating NVIDIA's best (Volta) or at least equalling it, I'm going to remain sceptical. All the usual stuff about power consumption, heat and noise still applies, too. Personally, I'd rather a card was 10% slower, but much quieter. Protecting what little sanity I have left is very important to me! :laugh:
Neither Nvidia nor AMD will innovate unless pushed to. Baseless extrapolations do not help.
@HD64G Are you really inferring the future of GPUs from one title or am I missing something?
i.imgur.com/OITaDBd.jpg
I never claimed that it directly translates though. But if you look at the Fury's TFLOPS it will be a 30-50% increase over that, and actually Polaris offers more perf/TFLOPS than Fiji did - so this is quite promising.
To be fair I think AMD is done with its near-constant rebranding. However they wouldn't have rebranded cards 3 times if Nvidia could make an arch that ages better than fruit.
Tomb Raider, Hitman, DOOM, DEUS EX, and now BF1.
It's pretty clear that this will be the new standard of 2017.
Still 5-6+ months away anyway, can't get excited over this yet.