Friday, August 3rd 2018
Intel to Paper-launch 9th Gen Core on August 14, Availability in Q4-2018
Intel's client desktop processor lineup is under tremendous pressure owing to competition from AMD, with the company having to roll out entire processor generations over mere 2-3 quarters. You'll recount that Intel was merrily trotting around with its barely-innovative 7th Gen "Kaby Lake" family in early 2017, when AMD stunned the industry with an outperforming product lineup. The 7th generation barely lasted its planned product cycle, before Intel rushed in a pathetic sub-$500 Core X lineup, and the 8th generation "Coffee Lake" with 50-100% core-count increases. Even that is proving insufficient in the wake of 2nd generation AMD Ryzen "Pinnacle Ridge," and Intel is cutting short its product cycle with the 9th generation Core "Whiskey Lake" (or "Coffee Lake" Refresh) series, that further increase core-counts.
"Whiskey Lake" was originally planned for Q1-2019 alongside the 14 nm original Z390 chipset. Intel wasn't expecting AMD to rebound with Ryzen 2000 series (particularly the tangible IPC increases and improved multi-core boosting). And so, it decided to rush through with a new product generation yet again. The Z370 is being re-branded to Z390 (with an improved CPU VRM reference design), and what was originally meant to come out in Q1-2019, could come out by Q4-2018, at the very earliest by October. Intel reportedly planned availability sooner, but realized that distributors have heaps of unsold 8th generation Core inventory, and motherboard vendors aren't fully ready for the chip. Since getting a 9th gen Core chip doesn't warrant a new motherboard, customers would be inclined to pick up 9th generation chip with their existing boards, or any new 300-series board. This would kill the prospects of selling 8th generation Core CPUs.
Intel still wants to make the presence of its 9th generation Core processors felt. And so, at the risk of cannibalizing its 8th generation Core sales, Intel is going ahead with a paper-launch of 9th generation Core on 14th August. You'll have to wait until October not just for availability, but also reviews of these chips. The company is just looking to restore competitiveness at the upper end of its lineup for now, and so its launch will be limited to three SKUs: Core i9-9900K, Core i7-9700K, and Core i5-9600K (detailed in the table below). Of these, the i9-9900K and the i7-9700K are the first 8-core processors by Intel on the mainstream-desktop platform; while the i5-9600K is a 6-core chip that's largely unchanged from the current-generation Core i5 chips. This shows that Intel won't improve its lineup over generation unless absolutely warranted by the competitive environment.
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"Whiskey Lake" was originally planned for Q1-2019 alongside the 14 nm original Z390 chipset. Intel wasn't expecting AMD to rebound with Ryzen 2000 series (particularly the tangible IPC increases and improved multi-core boosting). And so, it decided to rush through with a new product generation yet again. The Z370 is being re-branded to Z390 (with an improved CPU VRM reference design), and what was originally meant to come out in Q1-2019, could come out by Q4-2018, at the very earliest by October. Intel reportedly planned availability sooner, but realized that distributors have heaps of unsold 8th generation Core inventory, and motherboard vendors aren't fully ready for the chip. Since getting a 9th gen Core chip doesn't warrant a new motherboard, customers would be inclined to pick up 9th generation chip with their existing boards, or any new 300-series board. This would kill the prospects of selling 8th generation Core CPUs.
105 Comments on Intel to Paper-launch 9th Gen Core on August 14, Availability in Q4-2018
And yes next gen Freesync 2 and G-Sync HDR help big time for FPS if you can afford them?
I myself looking at getting this G-Sync HDR Monitor this October!
ROG SWIFT PG35VQ
35" Ultra-WQHD 3K HDR 200Hz Curved
www.asus.com/ca-en/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG35VQ/
3K/90 Ultra mode much more easy to run in new games then 4K/60
Just need a new video card to drive it! 1180+ anyone??
I have the X34 version of the monitor, and let me tell you, I cannot go back to a different one now.
www.asus.com/ca-en/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG27VQ/
Both of those 200Hz monitors with upcoming 1180+ 16GB or future 1180Ti 24GB card and 8700K and or 9700K, 9900K will be the best 2018 PC Gaming will get! and then there's second place Vega64 / Vega64 Liquid / 2700X / 2800X
Good time for PC Gaming again!
My 8700K @5.1GHz Cooled by EK has reached its limits....throw in a 9900K see if I can get o/c to 5.5GHz 8 Cores?
Besides you admitted multiple times being fan of AMD, why are you even playing this game of "I love it when ppl call you fanboy while owning an Intel CPU"
AMD had zero decent stuff during Athlon XP and Athlon 64 era. Oooookay. Only Intel fanboy would say such a thing...
You said something like "Ok, fine i like AMD, so what" I swear i'm going to find it and post it here unless you edited it, and granted my posting history reaches that far.
Edit: You're lucky i can't go back too much, not even in my posts, anyway there's really no need to find anything, one can just check your posting and that's pretty clear. There's no problem with that, just acknowledge it and go forward, i'm sure at that point people won't even mind your posting since it's biased.
Zubasa's and hzlph's post laid it out pretty well. You need to check yourself man.
Do you think AMD will now release the 2800X?
The gap between the 9900K and 2700X is huge. And Q2 2019 is a long long ways away till Ryzen 3000 series.
But as big companies, they're bound to disappoint or do something shady. It always seems to be a matter of who's on top at the moment. There was a time when IBM was the big evil that needed to be defeated...but no one even cares about them anymore. Then it was Microsoft and the Borg.. and the little guy fighting 1984 (Apple). But now Apple is bigger than anyone. And Google's motto used to be "do no evil".. but they're amoral at best (re: China censorship), and parasites at worst (advertising).
My 8700K @5.1GHz with all 6 cores runs 24/7 no problems. Other guys have there's at crazy 5.3GHz all 6 cores.
siliconlottery.com/collections/all/products/8086k53g
Shouldn't be hard for the 9900K running all 8 cores @5GHz.
That's all of us overclockers are thinking!
I on the other hand can claim that for a fact because I post the messages and my memory goes very far back and know I never said that. I damn well know what I say and I'm consistent about it. And only thing that speaks about anything is my wallet (apart from few rare times when I buy something stupid out of curiosity, like the current GTX 1080Ti even though GTX 1080 would serve me just fine all the same, but I sometimes just say fuck it and buy something stupidly expensive). Only thing one may call me of being a fanboy is sticking with brands I had good experience with. Like ASUS for motherboards or Gigabyte for graphic cards. But don't we all when it comes to brands? That doesn't make you a fanboy, it just makes you someone who sticks with products they had generally good experience with. It's what most of us do. But that's no metric for that, you're doing it by good faith the maker will continue the trend and that doesn't apply to a processor where you buy one in good faith it'll have a good performance. We do that based on performance metrics that are easily and scientifically measured. People don't buy Ryzen's and Threadrippers in good faith they'll perform well. They buy them because measurable metrics state that with absolute certainty.
Intel will likely still have ~1Ghz clock advantage tho not so much at multicore workloads as HT is less efficienct compared to SMT.
Yeah that's a form of fanboyism, which it's not necessarily a bad thing always, for example you can give your opinion on a certain fact, but not talk about it like it's all facts. Facts on the other hand are in tests and benchmarks, and everything else related - If a certain card from asus or gigabyte or whatever you want is better than another one and costs about the same (more or less), logic will push you towards the one that's better - that's how logic works, buying the worse card, for about the same price, is just the opposite of logic, it's not like they'll be let down by you or anything if you don't buy their card anyway, they don't give a sh** about you, that's why being a fan or loyal to something like this is completely stupid, goes the opposite way of logic, it's like a sentiment, but sentiments don't have space in capitalism, surely not from corporations. But then you feel like being magnanimous at least say that instead of inventing excuses about imaginary performance and other technical stuff, say "Yes i've bought that because i don't like the other brand, and no matter how good or bad their products are, i'll never buy anything from them" This doesn't not necessarily applies to you now, but i think it generally does.
You have a 1080Ti because you had no choice, if you think you'd be cool with a 1080, then you could've bought a Vega 64 since you favor the brand, but a Vega 64 cost (maybe still does i'm not sure) as much as a 1080TI, so that would really look completely stupid to do, even from a fanboy standpoint, since the 1080Ti has better performance, better consumption, and temperatures, it's like a no brainer in that situation. You're not the worst kind of fanboy i've seen, but you still are, and when difference is closer (CPUs) you favor the other even if the opponent is slightly better after all, that's when your fanboyism enters the game.