Friday, August 3rd 2018
Intel to Paper-launch 9th Gen Core on August 14, Availability in Q4-2018
Intel's client desktop processor lineup is under tremendous pressure owing to competition from AMD, with the company having to roll out entire processor generations over mere 2-3 quarters. You'll recount that Intel was merrily trotting around with its barely-innovative 7th Gen "Kaby Lake" family in early 2017, when AMD stunned the industry with an outperforming product lineup. The 7th generation barely lasted its planned product cycle, before Intel rushed in a pathetic sub-$500 Core X lineup, and the 8th generation "Coffee Lake" with 50-100% core-count increases. Even that is proving insufficient in the wake of 2nd generation AMD Ryzen "Pinnacle Ridge," and Intel is cutting short its product cycle with the 9th generation Core "Whiskey Lake" (or "Coffee Lake" Refresh) series, that further increase core-counts.
"Whiskey Lake" was originally planned for Q1-2019 alongside the 14 nm original Z390 chipset. Intel wasn't expecting AMD to rebound with Ryzen 2000 series (particularly the tangible IPC increases and improved multi-core boosting). And so, it decided to rush through with a new product generation yet again. The Z370 is being re-branded to Z390 (with an improved CPU VRM reference design), and what was originally meant to come out in Q1-2019, could come out by Q4-2018, at the very earliest by October. Intel reportedly planned availability sooner, but realized that distributors have heaps of unsold 8th generation Core inventory, and motherboard vendors aren't fully ready for the chip. Since getting a 9th gen Core chip doesn't warrant a new motherboard, customers would be inclined to pick up 9th generation chip with their existing boards, or any new 300-series board. This would kill the prospects of selling 8th generation Core CPUs.
Intel still wants to make the presence of its 9th generation Core processors felt. And so, at the risk of cannibalizing its 8th generation Core sales, Intel is going ahead with a paper-launch of 9th generation Core on 14th August. You'll have to wait until October not just for availability, but also reviews of these chips. The company is just looking to restore competitiveness at the upper end of its lineup for now, and so its launch will be limited to three SKUs: Core i9-9900K, Core i7-9700K, and Core i5-9600K (detailed in the table below). Of these, the i9-9900K and the i7-9700K are the first 8-core processors by Intel on the mainstream-desktop platform; while the i5-9600K is a 6-core chip that's largely unchanged from the current-generation Core i5 chips. This shows that Intel won't improve its lineup over generation unless absolutely warranted by the competitive environment.
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"Whiskey Lake" was originally planned for Q1-2019 alongside the 14 nm original Z390 chipset. Intel wasn't expecting AMD to rebound with Ryzen 2000 series (particularly the tangible IPC increases and improved multi-core boosting). And so, it decided to rush through with a new product generation yet again. The Z370 is being re-branded to Z390 (with an improved CPU VRM reference design), and what was originally meant to come out in Q1-2019, could come out by Q4-2018, at the very earliest by October. Intel reportedly planned availability sooner, but realized that distributors have heaps of unsold 8th generation Core inventory, and motherboard vendors aren't fully ready for the chip. Since getting a 9th gen Core chip doesn't warrant a new motherboard, customers would be inclined to pick up 9th generation chip with their existing boards, or any new 300-series board. This would kill the prospects of selling 8th generation Core CPUs.
105 Comments on Intel to Paper-launch 9th Gen Core on August 14, Availability in Q4-2018
Thus is why they make frame counters and every game can be turned down from Ultra, High, Medium, Low settings just for the reason to achieve minimal solid 60fps buttery smooth frame rates.
I personally love 60fps Ultra modes in any Resolution of choice 2K, 3K, 4K, 5K! :peace:
Or maybe yours isn't fanboyism, maybe something more serious.
I buy on the numbers, It's unfortunate other side competitors have nothing to offer since 2700K to 9900K.
I failed to see years over PR Hype over nothing.
Real world benchmarks in gaming from meany reviews can't all be wrong.
Others base there buy on PR Hype.
Witch are you?
As this thread is about the upcoming 9900K, its very important future builds or 8700K swop outs...so guys like me sell off their 8700K and pickup 9900K on last year's Z370 board.
I'm crazy interested to see 9900K @5GHz all cores o/c.
Happy benchmarks viewing!
Yes as all reviews say! The 8700K hands down best gaming CPU for 2017 over the 1800X end of Story.
How you feel about the 1800X gaming performance is a you thing.
As I said before many times before I base my RIG builds based apon best overall gaming as I'm a PC Gamer and Overclocker.
Why would I'd got an underperformed gaming 1800X that maxed o/c @4.1GHz??
My 8700K @5.1GHz o/c fantastic gaming CPU so far and so glad never picked up an 1800X CPU... as back on topic this thread with the upcoming 9900K / 9700K.
Has nothing to do with brand name or PR Hype or what brain washed individuals. The 9900K / 9700K is the new top gaming CPUs for 2018.... Leaves the 2700X in 3rd place.
The upcoming Benchmarks will speak for themselves.
I'm In an Intel information update thread so me speaking about updating from 8700K to 9700K or 9900K is responsible.
Telling people there "Stupid" is childish and pretty sure not aloud in this forums rule books?
Are you not excited about the 9900K and 9700K best CPUs for 2018?
I'm curious how much the 9900K power draw with overclocked @5GHz all 8 cores?
Do you think there will be 2800X to fill the huge gaping gap between 9900K/9700K and 2700X? Or they just waited out till Q2 2019.
For me running oder games like Diablo III @165fps is very fun! Once I pick up my next 200Hz monitor I'll be able to see 200fps Diablo III for example.
Frames per second is so important to us PC gamers! More the better is the golden rule?
I don't have a new card yet, especially one for new games like Anthem, Rage 2, The Division, GTA6, FF15 etc etc....
1180/1170 both on the way, I was really hoping to hold off till 1180Ti next February... I'll end up getting 1180+....add EK wb once they release to my loop should be good enough.
Once this is done 3K/90fps+ Ultra mode HDR in new games.
4K HDR PC Gaming is out of my reach especially there's no video cards that drive 4K FPS very well yet... Barely 4K/60fps
35" 3K HDR 21:9 Ultra-Wide FOV is my next PC Gaming road.
Yes I do own 16:9 LG 65" OLED HDR 60Hz UHDTV for my Ultra Blueray movies.
The upcoming 9900K/9700K should help in 3K & 4K gaming as most are aged. Wait too see performance on older Z370 boards.
You couldn't pay me to buy Anthem... but I digress. :P
They will get maximum the same, the 9900K likely worse performance than a 8700K in games.Nobody cares how many cores AMD needs to get a better multithread CPU than Intel if it's cheaper than an Intel with less cores. And in terms of single core performance, Intel's lead reduced to around 10% with the fastest GPU. A pure fanboy you are. Fact.Against the 8400, you have the 2600 for the same price with better CPU performance. And CL Pentiums are a piece of crap for that price. 2 core CPUs? Meh.Panicking is meant in the way that they raised core count after the release and success of Zen. Yep, I know, they didn't make CL in half a year, but you should be aware that their engineers knew what Zen will be capable of and a simple usual frequency boost as in the last 3-4 generations won't be enough. That's why they released higher core count CPUs, and raise it again in their next gen CPUs.
Also why say you have new CPU's when no one can buy them, other than to take the wind out of the sales of AMD real and purchasable products?
But will that really work?
Comparing products based on price:
Why pay the same or more for an 8C/16T CPU, even if it has better IPC, vs getting a TR 16C/32T that has comparable and decent perf that you wouldn't notice in real world usage?
Plus you get 2x cores for other workloads, more PCIe lanes (RAID NVMe off CPU, with full 16lanes for GPU, etc), and also can use ECC DIMMs if you so choose if the motherboard supports it, all of which are a no go with intel on socket 115X
If its priced the same as regular Ryzen, then maybe its a compelling argument, but who thinks the top tier 9XXX part is going to be the same price as 2700X
I would also expect the same price for the 9700K as 8700K and the 8700K should get reduced. 9700K vs 2700X
9900K/9700K on Z300 series have 40 Lanes total (16+24=40) witch is plenty for Dual Ch setup.
I myself would wish that there were at least 24 lanes directly from the processor. Sixteen for the GPU and eight more lanes for two 4x NVMe SSDs for direct connection to the processor.
You would wait for next generation 10nm+ Icelake next Year to get new tech.
10nm+ Icelake on Z470 chipset
- 48 Lanes Dual channel
- PCIe 4.0
- DMI 4
- DDR4/DDR5
This what I heard coming. Icelake is finely replacing Skylake architecture much needed.
But October 2019 is a very very long ways away from now.
PCIe lane bandwidth, PCIe lane count and memory bandwidth should not be any bottleneck for gaming on Coffeelake.
And with your i7-8700K at 5.1 GHz you are already beyond the point where the CPU is a bottleneck for gaming (except edge cases of course).
I'm very much looking forward to Ice Lake, but primarily due to improvements in IPC. But I doubt it's going to make a big difference for gaming, because in gaming a CPU only have to be fast enough to not bottleneck the GPU, and beyond a certain point there will only be marginal gains. If anything, the improvements in Ice Lake will probably help minimum framerates and stutter more than the average framerates, something which most benchmarks still fail to include.