Thursday, September 27th 2018
AMD "Navi" GPU Architecture Successor Codenamed "Arcturus"?
Arcturus is the fourth brightest star in the night sky, and could be the a new GPU architecture by AMD succeeding "Navi," according to a Phoronix report. The codename of Navi-successor has long eluded AMD's roadmap slides. The name "Arcturis" surfaced on Phoronix community forums, from a post by an AMD Linux liaison who is a member there. The codename is also supported by the fact that AMD is naming its GPU architectures after the brightest stars in the sky (albeit in a descending order of their brightness). Polaris is the brightest, followed by Vega, Navi, and Arcturus.
AMD last referenced the Navi-successor on a roadmap slide during its 2017 Financial Analyst Day presentation by Mark Papermaster. That slide mentioned "Vega" to be built on two silicon fabrication processes, 14 nm and "14 nm+." We know now that AMD intends to build a better-endowed "Vega" chip on 7 nm, which could be the world's first 7 nm GPU. "Navi" is slated to be built on 7 nm as the process becomes more prevalent in the industry. The same slide mentions Navi-successor as being built on "7 nm+," which going by convention, could refer to an even more advanced process than 7 nm. Unfortunately, even in 2017, when the industry was a touch more optimistic about 7 nm, AMD expected the Navi-successor to only come out by 2020. We're not holding our breath.
Source:
Phoronix
AMD last referenced the Navi-successor on a roadmap slide during its 2017 Financial Analyst Day presentation by Mark Papermaster. That slide mentioned "Vega" to be built on two silicon fabrication processes, 14 nm and "14 nm+." We know now that AMD intends to build a better-endowed "Vega" chip on 7 nm, which could be the world's first 7 nm GPU. "Navi" is slated to be built on 7 nm as the process becomes more prevalent in the industry. The same slide mentions Navi-successor as being built on "7 nm+," which going by convention, could refer to an even more advanced process than 7 nm. Unfortunately, even in 2017, when the industry was a touch more optimistic about 7 nm, AMD expected the Navi-successor to only come out by 2020. We're not holding our breath.
43 Comments on AMD "Navi" GPU Architecture Successor Codenamed "Arcturus"?
Glofo screwing them, again, just pushes back desktop parts even more. Enterprise is increasingly taking priority for cash (Lisa's game plan).
Turding is a joke, so I don't think AMD cares. Vegas/580s will continue to sell like hotcakes as long as prices are low. Nvidia has priced themselves out of the market lol.
I'm not sure where GloFo stands here. It seems like they've given up on 7nm and have relinquished themselves to older process nodes. Judging from comments I've read over the years, GloFo was never really good for parts where high performance was critical, anyway, and now they're even further behind. So, that leaves a lot of weight on TSMC.
As for Turding, :laugh: while it does offer a tangible performance increase over Pascal, I do agree that the prices are way too high. The cheapest RTX2080 in Newegg is about a Whopper meal away from the $800 mark, and that's not even the top tier card. The cheapest 2080Ti could get you a half decent vehicle (from a private seller, anyway)! Used to be you could build an entire decent gaming PC for around that price. nVidia is acting like they're in Breaking Bad in the high performance segment - they produce the best product, and there is no competitor. And I don't even know what to think of RTX (yet). So far, it seems like the most opportune time for nVidia to experiment with not only a new technology in graphics, but also to see how high they can push prices, all while clearing out as of yet unsold Pascal stock (at lower prices, lower than Turing anyway). At the same time, though, they're ripe for a good :nutkick:from AMD, or possibly even Intel, if either one can deliver early enough.
What's worrying about Navi is that Sony is sponsoring the development and AMD stated previously this year that it was targeting "Vega level performance". If an architecture offering 39% performance gains and 18% gains in energy efficiency is a turd, then I guess almost every past generation is as well. Not to mention the piles of cow dung AMD have been making lately…:rolleyes:
A turd in price? Abso-fvcking-lutely yes!!!!!
EDIT
Unless AMD comes up with a way to have Zen like chips to form a single GPU, i don't see AMD catching up to nVidia in performance any time soon.
Please tell me there's another cool person in here who got the reference!
Also, let's see if the price is tweaked after Pascal runs out.
Don't forget that AMD tried to sell Vega at $100 over advertised MSRP.