Thursday, May 9th 2019
AMD Ryzen 9 3000 is a 16-core Socket AM4 Beast
AMD is giving finishing touches to its 3rd generation Ryzen socket AM4 processor family which is slated for a Computex 2019 unveiling, followed by a possible E3 market availability. Based on the "Matisse" multi-chip module that combines up to two 8-core "Zen 2" chiplets with a 14 nm I/O controller die, these processors see a 50-100 percent increase in core-counts over the current generation. The Ryzen 5 series now includes 8-core/16-thread parts, the Ryzen 7 series chips are 12-core/24-thread, while the newly created Ryzen 9 series (designed to rival Intel Core i9 LGA115x), will include 16-core/32-thread chips.
Thai PC enthusiast TUM_APISAK confirmed the existence of the Ryzen 9 series having landed himself with an engineering sample of the 16-core/32-thread chip that ticks at 3.30 GHz with 4.30 GHz Precision Boost frequency. The infamous Adored TV leaks that drew the skeleton of AMD's 3rd generation Ryzen roadmap, referenced two desktop Ryzen 9 parts, the Ryzen 9 3800X and Ryzen 9 3850X. The 3800X is supposed to be clocked at 3.90 GHz with 4.70 GHz boost, with a TDP rating of 125W, while the 3850X tops the charts at 4.30 GHz base and a staggering 5.10 GHz boost. The rated TDP has shot up to 135W. We can now imagine why some motherboard vendors are selective with BIOS updates on some of their lower-end boards. AMD is probably maximizing the clock-speed headroom of these chips out of the box, to preempt Intel's "Comet Lake" 10-core/20-thread processor.
Sources:
TUM_Apisak, Tom's Hardware
Thai PC enthusiast TUM_APISAK confirmed the existence of the Ryzen 9 series having landed himself with an engineering sample of the 16-core/32-thread chip that ticks at 3.30 GHz with 4.30 GHz Precision Boost frequency. The infamous Adored TV leaks that drew the skeleton of AMD's 3rd generation Ryzen roadmap, referenced two desktop Ryzen 9 parts, the Ryzen 9 3800X and Ryzen 9 3850X. The 3800X is supposed to be clocked at 3.90 GHz with 4.70 GHz boost, with a TDP rating of 125W, while the 3850X tops the charts at 4.30 GHz base and a staggering 5.10 GHz boost. The rated TDP has shot up to 135W. We can now imagine why some motherboard vendors are selective with BIOS updates on some of their lower-end boards. AMD is probably maximizing the clock-speed headroom of these chips out of the box, to preempt Intel's "Comet Lake" 10-core/20-thread processor.
197 Comments on AMD Ryzen 9 3000 is a 16-core Socket AM4 Beast
It really is funny to watch at times.Why would they use the 2600X as their comparison when the 2700X was less than 5% different nearly all the time?
EDIT: Duh, thread count. My bad.
EDIT 2: 200W more power for 5% are just general approximates, not intended to be scientifically accurate.
I can top out a 2700x at 4.2 ghz all C/t with a subpar 240 aio... (same with most 9900k at 5ghz). It's not temps that hold these things back. World record for a screenshot of 2700x is 6 ghz... 9900k 7.6 ghz... the arch on this process just doesnt have it in them for higher clocks regardless of temps. BD was the opposite... 8ghz+ while Intel was 7ghz+.
I really hope that 16c/32t monstrosity is for TR.... this blurring of the lines and cores wars is getting old before it really starts, lol.
Although, I don't believe those leaks for nothing. If Zen2 makes it over 4.6, I'd be shocked. Like you said, it's not thermals or power holding these back.
Again, saying 'you' in general not 'you' as in EarthDog.That is my point, temperature and power are only a concern when 'their brand' is winning in those categories. Other wise, no one really cares.
If you find the 9900k's isn't enough to convince you, there must be something other than 8 cores 5GHz capability in your mind.
The 4790k was noticeably better than the 5675c regardless, so the variables between those two are basically the same. Sure the broadwell chips are pretty rubbish clock wise but I really don't think you can chock it up to the ~10% difference in single core perf.
www.purepc.pl/procesory/jaki_procesor_wybrac_test_amd_ryzen_5_2600_vs_intel_core_i5_8400?page=0,39
www.purepc.pl/procesory/jaki_procesor_wybrac_test_amd_ryzen_5_2600_vs_intel_core_i5_8400?page=0,36
www.purepc.pl/procesory/jaki_procesor_wybrac_test_amd_ryzen_5_2600_vs_intel_core_i5_8400?page=0,35
www.purepc.pl/procesory/jaki_procesor_wybrac_test_amd_ryzen_5_2600_vs_intel_core_i5_8400?page=0,37
www.purepc.pl/procesory/jaki_procesor_wybrac_test_amd_ryzen_5_2600_vs_intel_core_i5_8400?page=0,38
www.purepc.pl/procesory/jaki_procesor_wybrac_test_amd_ryzen_5_2600_vs_intel_core_i5_8400?page=0,43
16 cores is a given, 5Ghz not at all.That's getting high clocks Prescott ways.
He made the numbers up, as they come from a chart in his video all the way back December 2018! There is no way AMD knew the base/boost and price of every Ryzen 3K SKU back at that date. Also, he listed one of the SKUs as having a base clock merely 100mhz short of the boost clock of the Ryzen 2700x! I mean if that is not a red herring for his info, I don't know what is.