Very interesting, I am looking forward to Samsung's variant of it, especially the MLC version.

lynx29Very interesting, I am looking forward to Samsung's variant of it, especially the MLC version.

Nut sure if Samsung will bother with this tiny market - they need to develop their own controller for PCIe 4 first, which isn't exactly free

Fair price. I though it would be much more expensive.

Nice price indeed, and if the opening price is 250$ for 1TB drive then soon it's will be even better, Also can it drive the current nvme drives lower?

HwGeekNice price indeed, and if the opening price is 250$ for 1TB drive then soon it's will be even better, Also can it drive the current nvme drives lower?

Yes. This is something that might make me consider the 570x.

Now where are the people that were complaining about jacked up prices for PCIe 4.0 hardware?

W1zzardNut sure if Samsung will bother with this tiny market - they need to develop their own controller for PCIe 4 first, which isn't exactly free

Today, but what about a year or two down the line? It's not as if PCIe 4.0 will be exclusive to AMD.

Attached is the performance numbers for Gigabyte's drive based on the same controller.

Let's lower those game loading times.

Storage is still the bottleneck?

W1zzardNut sure if Samsung will bother with this tiny market - they need to develop their own controller for PCIe 4 first, which isn't exactly free

PCI-e 4.0 is also available on EPYC platform. If Samsung want to ingor that then its their choice, other will fill that enterprise PCI-e 4 SSD market and then the consumer market.

What happen when you install him on PCI-E 3.0.
How close is to his speed on PCI-E 4.0 interface?

Manupulation with new standards have huge impact on customers decision and companies know that and want to charge.
As they charged 50$ for same motherboards with USB 3.1 Gen 2 controller 2015. Now is 2019 0.5% here on enthusiasts forum, not among normal population, 0.5% of enthusiasts have External HDD USB 3.1 Gen 2 or USB Flash memory USB 3.1 Gen 2 4 years later.
Some of them both motherboards with same chipset because of that and replaced whole platform again 2-3 times before USB 3.1 Gen 2 become more often.
Actually USB 2.0 is still far more common then USB 3.1.

We will be witnesses of day when same graphic card, same SSD, and other new controllers will work faster on AMD platform then on Intel.
Who could imagine that 3 years after Bulldozer when Intel smash everything asking 1000 then 1700$ for 8-10 cores processors.
AMD moved everything forward, without Zen Core people would still use Intel X99 except minor part of population who pay to have newest not because need more performance. But with AMD all previous processors looks different. 2 years earlier AMD would destroyed launch of X99 and Intel only hope would be overclocking processors 500-700MHz to save platform. i7-5960X can work on 4.2GHz Turbo and that would be his frequency, not 3.5GHz.

megamanxtremeLet's lower those game loading times.

Storage is still the bottleneck?

no, even a $30 ssd will do wonders x hdd. This pcie4.0 ssd is just for selected workloads, for gaming has no benefit than the $30 ssd.

Vlada011What happen when you install him on PCI-E 3.0.
How close is to his speed on PCI-E 4.0 interface?

It will runs at the highest speed PCI-e 3.0 4x provides, at 3.79GB/s.

TheLostSwedeNow where are the people that were complaining about jacked up prices for PCIe 4.0 hardware?

$250 for 1TB plus $200 minimum for the motherboard.

TheLostSwedeNow where are the people that were complaining about jacked up prices for PCIe 4.0 hardware?

They took a long time to release an official price and 99% when that happens means = will be very very expensive. But like I said in my post above, it seems this was not the case. $100 - $250 is pretty standard for 1tb nowadays. In many cases 1tb is even cheaper than $100 at moment.

IceShroomIt will runs at the highest speed PCI-e 3.0 4x provides, at 3.79GB/s.

OK. How much you say it's fastest speed of PCI-E 3.0?
I didn't know some SSD reach almost maximum. I doubt PCI-E 3.0 will be produced any more.

Vlada011OK. How much you say it's fastest speed of PCI-E 3.0?
I didn't know some SSD reach almost maximum. I doubt PCI-E 3.0 will be produced any more.

Silly. Entry-Level X570s motherboards have the chipset M.2 slot PCI-E 3.0 x4.

lynx29Very interesting, I am looking forward to Samsung's variant of it, especially the MLC version.

LOL, what are you smoking? Samsung will not be developing any new consumer MLC drives, ever, for the simple reason that the number of consumers who (unnecessarily) care about lower P/E cycles of TLC/QLC is irrelevant. In fact, when Samsung adds PCIe 4.0 capability to the current ancient, yet still very performant, MJX controller, I expect them to drop MLC support at the same time, and their truly next-gen controller will likely only support QLC.

TheLostSwedeNow where are the people that were complaining about jacked up prices for PCIe 4.0 hardware?

$250 for a 1TB drive with extremely average performance, except in sustained read/writes which is the least common consumer workload, is ridiculously expensive when Crucial and Intel are selling drives of the same capacity and form factor for under $100.

TheLostSwedeNow where are the people that were complaining about jacked up prices for PCIe 4.0 hardware?

250$ is big for 1TB. However, it will probably quickly go down within a few months. MP510 half a year ago went for ~300$, currently I can buy it here in Poland for less than 170$. Almost 50% off in just 6 months!

I dunno, I picked up 2 x 512GB adata SSDs for $109AUD (something like $60USD) and run them in raid on my Threadripper. I get over pcie 4 speeds.
I think some x470 boards have more than 1 nvme slot that is wired directly to the CPU to also achieve this.

If you put a Raid-0 Samsung evo set on a 470 board, how well do they perform related to above SSD? Proberly a tad better even.

JismIf you put a Raid-0 Samsung evo set on a 470 board, how well do they perform related to above SSD? Proberly a tad better even.

Level1 did a video with an Asus x470 board,and got the same performance I'm getting (5000+ read/write)
I'd wait until the price matches pcie3 prices.
Sata ssd's are the things that seriously need to come down in price. 3TB should be $60US already.

Assimilator$250 for a 1TB drive with extremely average performance, except in sustained read/writes which is the least common consumer workload, is ridiculously expensive when Crucial and Intel are selling drives of the same capacity and form factor for under $100.

Right, because no money went in to making the new hardware...
And extremely expensive, lol, dude, you clearly have no memory of what SSDs used to cost. This is affordable for a next level piece of hardware.
Is it really useful, does it bring a huge user benefit? No, not really, but that's quite often the case with new tech. Did early DDR4 bring a huge benefit over last gen DDR3? No, but now we're way ahead and the same is likely to happen with PCIe 4.0 storage devices. But we need to start somewhere, no? And this is not really expensive for a first gen product.
Also, please don't go comparing this with QLC drives.

$250 for 1TB ?

for reference. decent nmve PCIe3 in raid 0

words:

1. supply & demand...

2. supply & demand...

3. supply & demand...

As with most things tech, new = expensive at launch, until production fully ramps up to meet demand, then it goes down, and last gen prices go down even moar, at least until it's supply is all but gone, then it gets real ugly real fast....

This is like the 1,495,712th time we have gone over this, yes ?

yun4l$250 for 1TB ?

Well, that's Japan for you...

Mamya3084for reference. decent nmve PCIe3 in raid 0

Brave, or you don't care about your data...