Friday, February 12th 2021
Intel Apparently Discounting 10th-Gen CPUs in Bid to Claw Market from AMD
Intel has apparently begun discounting its desktop CPUs, perhaps in a bid to try and maintain market share earning momentum the company garnered in the last few months. As AMD struggles to keep up with consumer demand for its latest Ryzen 5000 series, Intel looks to be capitalizing on its vertical integration (as well as the fact that Intel owns its own fabs and fabricates in a more than mature 14 nm process). A interesting move by the blue giant, who has generally opted out of a price reduction strategy - a move that might make Intel look on the back foot, and as an alternative budget brand, to the incommensurately smaller AMD.
Various retailers have been carrying Intel inventory with much reduced prices over their official MSRP. Amazon, for example, is offering the Intel Core i7-10700K for $344, down from its average pricing of $383. In the same retailer, the iGPU-less i7-10700F processor is down from $315 one month ago to just $229. Odds are that this is an Intel decision because if one considers the amount of demand on PC products and components due to COVID-19, it's very likely that consumers who can't get an AMD 5000-series CPU will still choose to purchase hardware - even if it has to be from Intel. So retailers eschewing part of their profits at a time like this seems slightly off-character.
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TechSpot
Various retailers have been carrying Intel inventory with much reduced prices over their official MSRP. Amazon, for example, is offering the Intel Core i7-10700K for $344, down from its average pricing of $383. In the same retailer, the iGPU-less i7-10700F processor is down from $315 one month ago to just $229. Odds are that this is an Intel decision because if one considers the amount of demand on PC products and components due to COVID-19, it's very likely that consumers who can't get an AMD 5000-series CPU will still choose to purchase hardware - even if it has to be from Intel. So retailers eschewing part of their profits at a time like this seems slightly off-character.
103 Comments on Intel Apparently Discounting 10th-Gen CPUs in Bid to Claw Market from AMD
Prices always drop you just have to wait 6-8 months for it.
motherboad + 50 e
Does anyone else cares about the 10xxx series??
Really....
2500K =4770S = 1600X X 370 = 10400 F B460 = ipad pro basicaly no difference all day normal task
with 1060 3 gb / or 580 or 5700XT monitor 4 K / dual screen 4K 2K / tv 4K
all ssd or nvme
GPUs on the other hand...
i prefer a processor 20 degres less work well withh ddr 2666 or 2933 than hotdog maker and ddr 4000 with X570 with fan
M1 is the right way
11400 or 11500 with Z490i asus or Z490 hero with dual thunderbolt 4 wifi 6 E is a kill combo for office use
or 10700 with Z490 asus creator price downor amd 8088 :p
amd 8088 - Bing images
Personally I could care less if it's Intel, AMD or NVIDIA when buying components I only care about price/performance and looking at the overlocked benchmarks.
The 10th gen are pretty good performers, it's not like the AMD FX series which were so far behind Intel in gaming that they were not a good option at any price.Very nice performers!
Pair that with a cheap mobo and you get a lot bang for not a lot of bucks.
$577,36 for a 10700... so yeah.
Typically I'd recommend the Ryzen 1600 as it usually offers better value but right now at around $180 it offers worse value than the 3600. The above linked motherboard supports all Ryzen 5000 series CPUs as well should you want to upgrade in the future.
Barely a jump in performance but it will cost more because "new" and 2 less cores on the high end, still a dead-end platform.
So if anything you would get a 10 series or Ryzen 3000 for cheap, Ryzen 5000 if you can afford and get it, or wait to see if Alder-Lake is worth a damn I would think.
the 11xxx series is really an odd duck.
www.digitimes.com/news/a20200902PD200.html
TSMC 7nm process output to top 140,000 wafers monthly
And what you have got in Wikipedia, is using the source in year 2013. No wonder there is no 7nm capacity.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants#cite_note-SEMI-1
I said : "They [Intel] probably have more 10nm capacity than TSMC has 7nm capacity."
This simple comment seems to be beyond your ability to comprehend or deal with at some level.
So you stated that TSMC had multiple gigafabs that can make > 100,000 wafers per month, implying that they could make ~500K+ 7nm wafers per month. That was easily debunked as that is (maybe) total capacity of those fabs, not their 7nm capacity.
You clearly were not aware that a chip plant has multiple fab nodes. See previous post.
So now you are saying something different, that TSMC has 140,000 wafers per month capacity on 7nm total, after expansion in late 2020?
Well at least you're learning to use the internet to get facts. It might interest you that I long ago read that article.
So here are some facts you might have found had you bothered to check the other side of the equation.
Intel does not give us direct numbers like that for their capacity, but we do know what their overall capacity is and how many fabs they have, and which ones can make 10nm. We also know that when Intel converts a fab, they convert the whole thing, that's why the Oregon fab can make 10 and 14nm on all nodes. Two nodes can make 22nm, and two others are being upgraded to do 7nm. With the exception of a couple of older fabs (which do 65nm / 32nm for legacy spares) that is the Intel way.
Intel has 15 fabs. They have about 890,000 wafer starts per month total. This means the average fab has 890,000 / 15 = 59133 wafer starts per month. 3 of their fabs are 10nm.
3 10nm fabs x 59133 wafers / month = 177,400 wafers / month.
177,400 > 140,000
Except, Fab 42, is 10nm and is by far their largest fab. So they can probably make more than that. Anyway, I used the word probably, and all available data backs that up.
So are you now informed?There are 387 references there. Many are from 2020. How on earth you zeroed in on just the first reference is a mystery.
The text in blue is what you is using to claim TSMC is not that advanced. The [1] is the reference that I posted. You then just used the 2013 reference and claim that the fabs are not upgraded at all in 8 years. It is you that need comprehension.
At least I tried to check with the capacity. You use speculations only.