Friday, April 16th 2021

Netac Kickstarts Research and Development Process for 10 GHz DDR5 Memory

Netac, a Chinese company based in Shenzen claiming to be the inventor of USB flash drive, has reportedly started the research and development process of DDR5 memory modules that will outperform everything on the market. Netac is rumored to have started the development of DDR5 memory that will have a frequency of over 10,000 MHz. While the JEDEC specification notes that the DDR5 frequency range is between 4800-8400 MHz, manufacturers are always welcome to go over the official specifications. Being that Netac is a relatively new player in the PC memory space, we are wondering how the company plans to execute its plans.

A 10 GHz DDR5 memory would require a very high voltage to run, meaning high heat output. We know that DDR5 chips can run at 2.6 V, according to T-FORCE, who tested such a configuration earlier. The next potential problem would be a platform that could handle 10 GHz DDR5 memory, however, by the time we get this memory in our hands, platforms will mature enough to handle high-speed RAM. The first batch of new DDR5 memory that was sent to Netac was Micron's Z9ZSB modules, which are 2Gx8, CL40 memory modules. They are manufactured in the 1znm memory manufacturing node Micron uses. It is left to be seen what we end up with and if Netac delivers on its promise.
Source: via VideoCardz
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44 Comments on Netac Kickstarts Research and Development Process for 10 GHz DDR5 Memory

#1
mtcn77
I get excited when new Rambus-level frontiering companies make the headlines. It is so satisfying, don't know about you...
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#2
Prima.Vera
yeah, another hype from an obscure chinese company.... pfff
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#3
mtcn77
Prima.Verayeah, another hype from an obscure chinese company.... pfff
Considering China is growing at a rapid pace, just watched a steel industry documentary, in which China was growing 4 times faster than Japan and India combined - which are the runner ups btw - they better have some engineering talent to back it up in other fields.
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#4
-The_Mask-
This is BS, no way they can go to 10GHz, half of this comes first.
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#5
napata
I know this article is just taken from Videocardz but shouldn't techsites use correct terminology? I'm referring to the MHZ as it's just just incorrect to say RAM runs at 10.000mhz or that DDR5 runs at 4800-8400 mhz. It's semantics as everyone knows what it means, although you occasionally see people question why their RAM is only running at half speed, and it doesn't matter on forums but I feel techsites should atleast use correct terminology.
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#6
PilleniusMC
napataI know this article is just taken from Videocardz but shouldn't techsites use correct terminology? I'm referring to the MHZ as it's just just incorrect to say RAM runs at 10.000mhz or that DDR5 runs at 4800-8400 mhz. It's semantics as everyone knows what it means, although you occasionally see people question why their RAM is only running at half speed, and it doesn't matter on forums but I feel techsites should atleast use correct terminology.
Absolutely agreed, the terminology isn't even that hard, 10 GT/s, that's even shorter, 10000 MT/s one character longer. Or 10 Gbps, that's also correct.
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#7
Kaotik
It would be really great if you stopped writing complete and utter BS like this. It's not just misleading, it's simply wrong. Nothing in those memories will work anywhere near 10 000 MHz or anything like that. The xxxx in DDRy-xxxx is NOT MHz, it's "effective speed" compared to SDR memories.
napataI know this article is just taken from Videocardz but shouldn't techsites use correct terminology? I'm referring to the MHZ as it's just just incorrect to say RAM runs at 10.000mhz or that DDR5 runs at 4800-8400 mhz. It's semantics as everyone knows what it means, although you occasionally see people question why their RAM is only running at half speed, and it doesn't matter on forums but I feel techsites should atleast use correct terminology.
It's not semantics, it's literally intentionally lying to people for the sake of marketing hype.
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#8
Wirko
On top of all that, some people understand mega as 1024*1024.
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#9
TheinsanegamerN
mtcn77Considering China is growing at a rapid pace, just watched a steel industry documentary, in which China was growing 4 times faster than Japan and India combined - which are the runner ups btw - they better have some engineering talent to back it up in other fields.
All that growth and even the finest of Chinesium still rivals the tensile strength and durability of generic brand cheddar cheese. All the "growth" in the world (especially when reported by the CCP, the same government repeatedly caught manipulating growth and GDP statistics to inlate their currency's value) doesnt matter if nobody trusts your product. Despite being a world leader in manufacturing for over half a century china still produces some real crap.
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#10
mtcn77
TheinsanegamerNAll that growth and even the finest of Chinesium still rivals the tensile strength and durability of generic brand cheddar cheese. All the "growth" in the world (especially when reported by the CCP, the same government repeatedly caught manipulating growth and GDP statistics to inlate their currency's value) doesnt matter if nobody trusts your product. Despite being a world leader in manufacturing for over half a century china still produces some real crap.
They could care less. The Rothschild family rules China. Essentially England by proxy.
PS: I wouldn't try obfuscating the discussion when discussing with an astroturfing veteran such as myself... Git gud.
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#11
TumbleGeorge
Hmm, there will have memory for China exaflops supercomputers, also and for desktop PC's with Zhaoxin KX-7000 series CPUs and it's successors in future.
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#12
bonehead123
But this memory will run extra hot simply because of all the spyware/backdoors/loggers etc that they will add in, which will run in the background, completely obscured from public view, which of course will be impossible to remove :)
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#13
mtcn77
bonehead123But this memory will run extra hot simply because of all the spyware/backdoors/loggers etc that they will add in, which will run in the background, completely obscured from public view, which of course will be impossible to remove :)
Maybe, if you point laser beams that would deactivate the big brother.
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#14
DeathtoGnomes
ahhhh, ambition. I actually hope they are successful, in a timely manner ofc. :rolleyes:
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#15
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
WirkoOn top of all that, some people understand mega as 1024*1024.
Software isn't people.
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#16
R0H1T
mtcn77Considering China is growing at a rapid pace, just watched a steel industry documentary, in which China was growing 4 times faster than Japan and India combined - which are the runner ups btw - they better have some engineering talent to back it up in other fields.
Well it's not like they do a lot of wasteful things don't they :rolleyes:
Ignore the speculation but if this happens in the rest of the country, which it probably certainly does, then how effin wasteful is that? Buildings not made to last :shadedshu:

And I'm pretty sure there's at least a 100 ghost town which we've seen documentaries of!
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#17
mtcn77
R0H1TWell it's not like they do a lot of wasteful things don't they :rolleyes:
Ignore the speculation but if this happens in the rest of the country, which it probably certainly does, then how effin wasteful is that? Buildings not made to last :shadedshu:

And I'm pretty sure there's at least a 100 ghost town which we've seen documentaries of!
Oh, I tuned in to that. Apparently it is bad chinese luck to move into a property with furniture installed. You know how it goes...
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#18
mechtech
"Netac, a Chinese company based in Shenzen claiming to be the inventor of USB flash drive,"

I got a giggle out of that line.
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#19
Kaotik
mechtech"Netac, a Chinese company based in Shenzen claiming to be the inventor of USB flash drive,"

I got a giggle out of that line.
It's not actually that far fetched, but hard to verify. If we could see the original patent application date, we'd see for sure, but not sure where to dig that up from. It's not unheard for patent to be applied for couple years before the actual product is out on the market. If the date they claim is correct, it would have been before any USB Flash Drives were on the market.
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#20
P4-630
AleksandarKNetac, a Chinese company based in Shenzen claiming to be the inventor of USB flash drive
According to google

In 1999, Shimon Shmueli, an engineer at IBM, submitted an invention disclosure asserting that he had invented the USB flash drive.
A Singaporean company named Trek 2000 International is the first company known to have sold a USB flash drive, and has also maintained that it is the original inventor of the device.
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#21
First Strike
mechtech"Netac, a Chinese company based in Shenzen claiming to be the inventor of USB flash drive,"

I got a giggle out of that line.
Not so funny when you actually search for the first patent for USB flash drive.

Someone can even claim to have invented integrated circuits because of his own personal diary. (Not speaking ill of Noyce anyway)
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#22
Kaotik
P4-630According to google

In 1999, Shimon Shmueli, an engineer at IBM, submitted an invention disclosure asserting that he had invented the USB flash drive.
A Singaporean company named Trek 2000 International is the first company known to have sold a USB flash drive, and has also maintained that it is the original inventor of the device.
The claim is Netac applied for the patent before the IBM guy showed his stuff, but the patent wasn't granted 'till 2002 (and it was still the first or one of the first patents on USB flash drives)
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#24
WhitetailAni
That moment when your RAM is faster than your CPU...
I know that it's not actually running at 10 GHz - instead at 10 GT/s or 5 GHz - but that's faster than most current processors!
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#25
AsRock
TPU addict
I thought Trek Technology invented the thumb drive, maybe i need to look in to it again it's been some time, don't remember it being and Chinese company.

Has this Chinese company been around 15+ years ?.

Even if they could pull i t off i would not support such BS.
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