Wow! The barriers keep dropping.

What’s after 1nm ?

NanochipWhat’s after 1nm ?

0.1 nm after that the end...lol

1Å, 1/10th size.

matar0.1 nm after that the end...lol

Haha .

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How is that even a thing?

NanochipWhat’s after 1nm ?

0.8nm or 0.5nm depending if its a half or full node change?

NanochipWhat’s after 1nm ?

Probably true 8nm or so...

This discovery was first made by the MIT team before then being further refined by TSMC and NUT which will increase energy efficiency and performance in future processors.

Haha small but funny spelling mistake. I believe the NUT in the 2nd last sentence should be NTU.

Thanks for the article! gives hope for the future of semiconductors.

1 nm, I wonder what it ACTUALLY translates to in those samples lol.

MathraghHaha small but funny spelling mistake. I believe the NUT in the 2nd last sentence should be NTU.

Thanks for the article! gives hope for the future of semiconductors.

Cheers updated.

ExcuseMeWtf1 nm, I wonder what it ACTUALLY translates to in those samples lol.

$100 000 GPUs? Cause, reasons...

Legacy-ZA$100 000 GPUs? Cause, reasons...

Demand drives price,... Let's hope by that time supply is better able to serve it :)

DammeronProbably true 8nm or so...

So true and a comment probably lost on most posters....

There is a physical limit to how small a process can go before the constraints of the manufacturing equipment and atomic density prevents further reduction. 1nm is getting really close to that limit..

JohnWalSo true and a comment probably lost on most posters....

While I agree that it's slightly dishonest, one can argue that it started to matter a whole lot less when the state of the art switched (hehe geddit) away from planar transistors.
Putting 'nm numbers' on things like FinFETs, GAA FETs and whatever else they're cooking up doesn't really make all that much sense anymore anyway, and as technologies continue to develop it's less and less about those nanometers.

If only there was something else both straightforward and catchy that can represent both performance and scaling of the most basic building blocks of transistors these days,..

Edit: It makes me think of those oldskool "3200+" names AMD put on their CPUs when clocks started to matter less compared to IPC. It's not really a straightforward metaphor but similar imho.

JohnWal

DammeronProbably true 8nm or so...

So true and a comment probably lost on most posters....

The scaling factor has been superseded by the current drive which is the main factor that made FinFET so dominant.
Prior to FinFET, 3D gates weren't present. Actual 3D gates in the shape of GAAFET and MBCFET are 4D in comparison since the gate is surrounding the source in 4 directions instead of 3.

NanochipWhat’s after 1nm ?

pm

MathraghDemand drives price,... Let's hope by that time supply is better able to serve it :)

While true on economic papers, scalpers and bots drives prices ;)

mechtechWhile true on economic papers, scalpers and bots drives prices ;)

I agree that they currently do have an influence on prices, but would they also be able to do the same if there was enough supply to satisfy demand?
If anything it says to me that the products are too cheap for their demand so people are capitalizing on the difference. If supply and demand were in balance, scalpers shouldn't have a chance.

Ravenaspm

"My GPU has 1 PM!! How do I respond to it????"

In all seriousness, I wonder what this means for CPUs and GPUs. Will this drive safe voltages down, up, or something else?

RealKGB"My GPU has 1 PM!! How do I respond to it????"

In all seriousness, I wonder what this means for CPUs and GPUs. Will this drive safe voltages down, up, or something else?

Speaking broadly on top end hardware, all die shrinks have done so far is drive hz up and power up.

matar0.1 nm after that the end...lol

Just for the record, a single Si atom's atomic radius is slightly larger than 0.1nm, which puts its diameter at approximately 0.2nm. I would love to hear how they'd make a transistor gate smaller than a silicon atom. :p

The next major step is how to do 3d stacking (2d slices stacked), then 3d chips.

In both case, the major issue will be the cooling. This is why 3d stacking is targeted right now at low power devices. But all manufacturer are working on solutions for that.

lexluthermiesterThere is a physical limit to how small a process can go before the constraints of the manufacturing equipment and atomic density prevents further reduction. 1nm is getting really close to that limit..

Sort of, we got to that point at 22nm when everyone was trying to figure out how to go smaller. FINFET became that solution and its gotten us to 5nm.

Now we are in the same position and so far the proven ways to get us under 5nm has been Nanosheet or Nanowire (Gate all-around) FETs. Its all about how to control the channel effectively and not allow electrons to leak from source to drain even if the FET is technically off. FINFET has a lot better control over channel behavior, but as the transistors get smaller we run into same problems exhibited by normal planar FETs when first trying to get below 22nm.

You are dead on about manufacturing though, going to FINFET was hell and a half for the industry due to tight tolerances to how FINFETs function. Nanosheet and wire solutions are even more difficult. Costs is going to be insane.

This new contact material is pretty interesting actually. Might add a bit to manufacturing costs though.