Thursday, December 9th 2021

Intel CEO Writes Opinion Piece on CNN Asking For Government Support

Not content with his speech at Fortune Brainstorm Tech conference—Intel's CEO—Pat Gelsinger has now written an opinion piece on CNN where he's telling the US congress that it must pass the CHIPS for America Act. It's quite bold for a CEO of any company to make such demands, least not for one that has been less than a year in the position.

The CHIPS Act involves US$52 billion earmarked for chip makers who are willing to produce chips on US soil, although as we already know, Gelsinger wants the bulk of that to go to US companies. To try and win over the House, his opinion piece on CNN is trying to win over the hearts and minds of the US senators by pitching all the positive things that will happen if Intel gets more money than its competitors.
The first selling point is a bit ridiculous, as he claims that each person that is hired by Intel, creates up to another 13 American jobs, although all these jobs are apparently in the services and supply business at other companies, not at Intel. This is supposedly because when Intel builds a fab, it's like building a small city, so in other words, if you build it, they will come seems to be the reasoning here.

The second argument is about how it's not profitable for US companies to manufacture semiconductors domestically, which again seems like a very odd reasoning, since if that was true, how come Intel is still in business, considering they're the largest semiconductor manufacturer in the US. Someone at Intel has worked out that US foundries have a 30 percent cost disadvantage versus Asian based foundries, which may or may not be true. Regardless, he goes on to further state that the US has gone from making 37 percent to only 12 percent of all semiconductors in the world from 1990 to 2020, with Europe dropping from 44 percent to a mere 9 percent in the same time period. As such, the US government should step up and help balance things, if for no other reason than the fact that the EU has agreed on its own Chips Act.

Gelsinger also seems to be upset that the PRC is planning to invest US$150 billion in its local semiconductor industry over an unspecified time period. He seems to have missed the fact that the PRC is investing more heavily than initially planned due to the various US trade embargos that are in place, which makes it impossible for local companies to manufacture semiconductors in other countries. Even Intel itself has fabs in the PRC and other nations as well, but this is apparently of no importance when asking the government for money.

The only really valid point in his opinion piece is that the current supply chains aren't working when there's a big hiccup and this should be the real reason why semiconductor manufacturing should be spread out globally, as almost everything relies on some form of semiconductors these days. However, this seems more of an issue where various governments should try to win over the semiconductor manufacturers to open fabs in their countries, rather than the US government handing over a bunch of cash to Intel, which isn't likely to change the current situation very much, as Intel is the one company that seems to have the leas supply issues.

As a side note, 90 year old TSMC founder Morris Chang mentioned that Gelsinger is too old to be likely to be able to see the changes he's put in motion at Intel through, due to the fact that Intel has a mandatory retirement age of 65, with Gelsinger already being 60. Time will tell how things play out, but five years isn't a lot of time in the grand scheme of things.
Sources: CNN, Taiwan News
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89 Comments on Intel CEO Writes Opinion Piece on CNN Asking For Government Support

#26
TheLostSwede
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BubsterSomebody should remind Intel CEO that (Potatoe) Chips were Made in America first, The Chinese and Taiwanese just added a little teriyaki flavor :)
Teriyaki is Japanese...
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#28
TheLostSwede
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RandallFlaggThat's not what you said and not what Gelsinger said.

He wants the bulk of the funds to go to US companies. Why wouldn't it? It's our tax dollars. How much has Taiwan subsidized Japanese, EU, or US companies? Zero? Did that bother you?

I'm not expecting some foreign country to subsidize US companies, but it is rather bizarre to see someone from Taiwan expecting the US will subsidize Taiwanese companies.

You are really starting to stray into a very deceptive / dishonest arguments.


Then why would you complain when the US might maybe do it? Maybe start posting articles about how bad it is when China / Taiwan / Korea etc etc. use state funding to subsidize their industries?



After 35 years of being propped up, yes TSMC is giving them a return now. History and context matters.



That is mostly local state level incentives, typically they give low interest loans or don't hit them with property taxes for X number of years. That's not the same as Federal funding and infrastructure build-out, and states don't set corporate tax rates.

In point of fact, TSMC is a benefactor of this already as are many foreign companies like Toyota and Samsung. It's something any company that builds in the US will typically get - they put states in competition with each other to provide the best deal, regardless of what country they are for. That's a red herring as it is totally separate and can \ will happen anyway regardless of what happens with CHIPS act.
I think you live in a fantasy world, so let's just end the discussion here, as I have put you on my ignore list for a reason, but I foolishly replied anyhow.
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#29
Why_Me
RavenasWhy should we subsidize Intel? I just don't see the overall plan panning out, they are unable to capitalize fab advancement due to their 12% world market position. They can't dominate the chip market based solely on their own architecture and designs. The need to sell their fabs out.

TSMC is selling their FABs out. Why doesn't Intel do the same? AMD already went through all of this, went on the verge of bankruptcy, sold their fabs, and went fabless. Intel needs to decide what they want to do.
So who should the US defense, auto, heavy machinery and aeronautical industry purchase their chips from?
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#30
RandallFlagg
TheLostSwedeI think you live in a fantasy world, so let's just end the discussion here, as I have put you on my ignore list for a reason, but I foolishly replied anyhow.
TPU needs to start having nationalistic editorials by this person presaged with the fact that he is from Taiwan.
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#32
Ravenas
TheLostSwedeOr maybe Intel should just just stop playing coy about it and act like a responsible company, instead of making excuses as to why it wants a bigger share of the funds than it thinks its competitors deserve? I don't favour any of the semiconductor manufacturers, but most of the reasoning from Pat is just silly. There are so many better ways of asking for this money that are legit reasons, instead of what he's done for the past week.
First and foremost, shouldn't the most money go to the company that is willing to invest the most into new foundries on US soil in this instance?
If that is Intel, then there's no problem, but asking for money without even saying what it will be used for, seems like a cash grab.
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Why_MeSo who should the US defense, auto, heavy machinery and aeronautical industry purchase their chips from?
Don't let a temporary supply chain problem cause you to make impulsive decisions.
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#33
Why_Me
RavenasI t


Don't let a temporary supply chain problem cause you to make impulsive decisions.
Who should US defense, auto, heavy machinery and aeronautical industries purchase their chips from?
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#34
Ravenas
Why_MeWho should US defense, auto, heavy machinery and aeronautical industries purchase their chips from?
TSMC is selling 78% of this to the world.

Should we the taxpayer stand by and let the US government subsidize every industry when they aren't competing well due to their own decisions? How is that a capitalist market?

While we are at it, let's begin subsidizing silicon mining and elemental silicon production.
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#35
TheLostSwede
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RandallFlaggTPU needs to start having nationalistic editorials by this person presaged with the fact that he is from Taiwan.
I'm not from Taiwan :rolleyes:
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#36
damric
Intel squandered profits by buying back stock instead of reinvesting in production. Let them fail.
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#37
mak1skav
Haha always the same story with those mega corporations they want to share the expenses/loses with the taxpayers but never the profits.
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#38
Why_Me
RavenasTSMC is selling 78% of this to the world.

Should we the taxpayer stand by and let the US government subsidize every industry when they aren't competing well due to their own decisions? How is that a capitalist market?

While we are at it, let's begin subsidizing silicon mining and elemental silicon production.
Madness is the only thing that comes to mind when the US defense and economy should rely upon a foreign company for it's chips who's based out of a country that's being eyeballed by China.
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#39
Ravenas
Why_MeMadness is the only thing that comes to mind when the US defense and economy should rely upon a foreign company for it's chips who's based out of a country that's being eyeballed by China.
So any global corporation with fabs in the United States don't count either, they must be headquartered here. Logical.

Again, why should 22% of my earning be turned over to the US Government, to turn around and subsidize Intel?
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#40
Why_Me
RavenasSo any global corporation with fabs in the United States don't count either, they must be headquartered here. Logical.
It's our defense and economy for christ sake.
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#41
Ravenas
Why_MeIt's our defense and economy for christ sake.
Last I checked our economy is #1 and our defense is #1. Haven't heard any talk of this prior to COVID supply chain issues. China doesn't need to take over Taiwan to control chip manufacturing, they can do so through silicon.

Nothing more than ridiculous political lobbying to pay off Intel current capital expenditures.

The United States taxpayer shouldn't subsidize every corporation when they can't compete due to their own decisions. This erosion of market share has occurred over a decade of poor business.
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#42
Why_Me
RavenasLast I checked our economy is #1 and our defense is #1. Haven't heard any talk of this prior to COVID supply chain issues. China doesn't need to take over Taiwan to control chip manufacturing, they can do so through silicon.

Nothing more than ridiculous political lobbying to pay off Intel current capital expenditures.

The United States taxpayer shouldn't subsidize every corporation when they can't compete due to their own decisions. This erosion of market share has occurred over a decade of poor business.
If this virus has taught us anything it's the fact that the global supply chain isn't what it was made out to be. It has some severe deficiencies.
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#43
Ravenas
Why_MeIf this virus has taught us anything it's the fact that the global supply chain isn't what it was made out to be. It has some severe deficiencies.
Intel has supply chains, should we subsidize every supplier?
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#44
Why_Me
RavenasIntel has supply chains, should we subsidize every supplier?
Intel is US based.
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#45
TheLostSwede
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Why_MeWho should US defense, auto, heavy machinery and aeronautical industries purchase their chips from?
Who are all other nations equivalents buying from?
Again, no-one is saying that there shouldn't be IC foundries in multiple parts of the world, the currently supply issues are proof that the current way things are done, doesn't work reliably.
There's also no issue with governments trying to entice companies over to their nation, as long as it's done above board.
However, it's unlikely that we're ever going to a foundry per country, just so every government can make "their own" chips. Why does the US have any more right than any other country to produce those chips?
I'm by no means in favour of the PRC or Taiwan being exclusive producers of whatever it might be, it's not a sensible way of doing things, but it's what many companies have allowed to happen, because they could save money by doing so.
It makes it hard to feel sorry for these companies who are now complaining about how they're no longer the market leaders and that the foreign competition is doing better than them.
You can't eat the cake and have it.
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#46
Ferrum Master
Basically all the problems arose of Intel themselves flopping so hard and being narcist till the point some Taiwan company catch them up and some other companies utilized it as the normal free market does.

And now they whine about it...
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#47
Why_Me
TheLostSwedeWho are all other nations equivalents buying from?
Again, no-one is saying that there shouldn't be IC foundries in multiple parts of the world, the currently supply issues are proof that the current way things are done, doesn't work reliably.
There's also no issue with governments trying to entice companies over to their nation, as long as it's done above board.
However, it's unlikely that we're ever going to a foundry per country, just so every government can make "their own" chips. Why does the US have any more right than any other country to produce those chips?
I'm by no means in favour of the PRC or Taiwan being exclusive producers of whatever it might be, it's not a sensible way of doing things, but it's what many companies have allowed to happen, because they could save money by doing so.
It makes it hard to feel sorry for these companies who are now complaining about how they're no longer the market leaders and that the foreign competition is doing better than them.
You can't eat the cake and have it.
Does TSMC get any breaks from the Taiwanese govt?
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#48
Ravenas
Why_MeIntel is US based.
Should we subsidize every supplier? Do you know which global location your hypothetical Intel chip was fabbed? Why should Intel be rewarded for poor business execution?

Subsidizing Intel simply because they are US based is throwing money away. Maybe the government should appoint bureaucrats to all executive positions at Intel as well.

This is capitalist market, not a welfare state. If this was a wartime effort I would understand, but it's not. It's political lobbying.
Why_MeDoes TSMC get any breaks from the Taiwanese govt?
Who cares what Taiwan does? Should we spend taxpayer dollars because Taiwan does?
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#49
TheLostSwede
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Why_MeMadness is the only thing that comes to mind when the US defense and economy should rely upon a foreign company for it's chips who's based out of a country that's being eyeballed by China.
It's a situation that's self created though.
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#50
Why_Me
Ferrum MasterBasically all the problems arose of Intel themselves flopping so hard and being narcist till the point some Taiwan company catch them up and some other companies utilized it as the normal free market does.

And now they whine about it...
Remember when the Baltic nations begged to join NATO. I do. It's the US defense industry that keeps NATO a factor.
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