SilentAcesI think that a lot of you have no idea what you are talking about..Not to be too rude, but this card is not on the shelves, has no released drivers, and none of you have tested or used one..lol...how could you possibly think you know anything about this new series and how it stacks up against the 8800..or future cards...Oh thats right 2 questionable sources (known for mis info) said its so..lol....and whoever said the 8900 will pwn the r600, you are the biggest upset here..Why don't we just say that the R700 or R800 will pwn the 8900 then...lets argue product that does not even exist yet...lol


I can not wait till the NDA is lifted and everyone get REAL results and info, until then its all crap imo...:rockout:

yep I get what cha mean. I dont want speculation I want them to be able to back up what they say, otherwise its useless babble prob made by a fan boi like this bench.. or nividia themselfs lol.

SilentAces"Pretty clever" how Nvidia took advantage of soooo many people isn't it....

Yep I hate nividas marketing team, they suck D***, thus making me not want to buy thier cards because they take advantage of people who dont know better.. but they prob been doing this since when they had the top end card.. the whole "nivida the way its meant to be played" bullshit on just about every game out there.

SilentAcesOthers might say that's bullshit..It's deception..They were sold as DX10 ready, and they were not DX10 ready...That is Marketing Deception and they should be punished for it..."Pretty clever" how Nvidia took advantage of soooo many people isn't it....

Exactly my point also! I am not suggesting I agree with their strategy (I don't) just pointing out that they have made a HUGE amount of money already out of DX10 (or not as the case may be) before a single DX10 game is on the shelves and perhaps more importantly, before R600 is on the shelves, whether they will maintain those sales after the lanch of R600 is very doubtful (and to a certain extent serves them right) but if their 8900 is really good then too many people with have short memories and buy them anyways.

casheti, what wrong with being first, its all about making money in the end of the day, so whoever is first ppl will buy because they are the only ones doing it, nerver mind if it will beat future cards or not, bottom line is amd/ati have been asleep all this time, i mean they going to realease the r600 in a month or so, by that time nvidia will release possible the ultra or gx2 or whatever they have in mind, its all about being one step ahead of the competition and i think they are managing pretty well dont you.

not taking anything from ati they do have good products, but for ppl like me who cant wait 6month to buy a dx10 card from ati i wud rather buy from nvidia.

Well WHY can't you wait to buy a DX10 card though, if there's no DX10 games?

ATi is releasing the cards when they're NEEDED, NOT to be first.

CashetiWell WHY can't you wait to buy a DX10 card though, if there's no DX10 games?

ATi is releasing the cards when they're NEEDED, NOT to be first.

Because he dont want to, does not have to and he gets way superior DX9 performance as well. At the end of the day.....it's all about choice.

Greekbottom line is amd/ati have been asleep all this time, i mean they going to realease the r600 in a month or so, by that time nvidia will release possible the ultra or gx2 or whatever they have in mind, its all about being one step ahead of the competition and i think they are managing pretty well dont you.

not taking anything from ati they do have good products, but for ppl like me who cant wait 6month to buy a dx10 card from ati i wud rather buy from nvidia.

ya....they have been asleep this whole time..lol...I have this funny feeling that a multi million dollar company has a pretty good idea what it is doing..now, what nvidia cards are coming out at the same time to compete with the R600? oh wait, i see you said "POSSIBLE"...Its all theories and guessing as to what ati or nv will do next...again no one knows..

I just don't understand why people are all upset ATI hasn't released something that really is not even usable yet. I understand that those with fx5200's or 9600xt's want to upgrade and don't want to waste money on DX9 when the new DX10 line is around the corner. However some of you act like this is the dumbest thing for ati to do....Thing is ati has done it like this for the past few years...And at the end of those years, ATI ended up with the better card....

Let Nv enjoy being on top with its 8 series...its been a while since they have been there, and all it took was a great card coupled with an even greater lie...Ati will be on top soon enough and then we can repeat this whole cycle again...

SilentAcesya....they have been asleep this whole time..lol...I have this funny feeling that a multi million dollar company has a pretty good idea what it is doing..now, what nvidia cards are coming out at the same time to compete with the R600? oh wait, i see you said "POSSIBLE"...Its all theories and guessing as to what ati or nv will do next...again no one knows..

I just don't understand why people are all upset ATI hasn't released something that really is not even usable yet. I understand that those with fx5200's or 9600xt's want to upgrade and don't want to waste money on DX9 when the new DX10 line is around the corner. However some of you act like this is the dumbest thing for ati to do....Thing is ati has done it like this for the past few years...And at the end of those years, ATI ended up with the better card....

Let Nv enjoy being on top with its 8 series...its been a while since they have been there, and all it took was a great card coupled with an even greater lie...Ati will be on top soon enough and then we can repeat this whole cycle again...

Firstly, NVidia have stated they will release the 8900, the 8800 series cards are actually 8900's with disabled everythings (more or less) so it's a reality about to happen and some people (not me personally) are upset with Ati because they did not have something to compete with NVidia at the time of the 8800 launch whether DX10 is here or not, you seem to forget that both cards will give a huge performance boost to DX9 also, some people just like fast in whichever guise is comes in.

I'm too lazy to read through all this, if the arguing gets rough, you know who to PM. Now, I'm going out to see if anybody will hire me for a summer job. I'll be back within an hour :roll:.

thanks tatty, u seem to understand what im talking about, anyway, ive had both ati and nvidia and been happy with both in all fairness, but i have to say that nvidia has won me with what they have so far,

Greeknot taking anything from ati they do have good products, but for ppl like me who cant wait 6month to buy a dx10 card from ati i would rather buy from nvidia.

I dont see why you wouldn't be able to wait though. you had/have a 7900GTX :O I think that has 512mb ram too so you shouldn't have any problems running just about any dx9 card at max everything without needing to tweak the game.

Oh I guess if your into online first person shooter games though the more fps you have the better eh :P I don't really play fps games much so that didn't come to mind right away.

Tatty_OneFirstly, NVidia have stated they will release the 8900, the 8800 series cards are actually 8900's with disabled everythings (more or less) so it's a reality about to happen .

WHEN?????

Tatty_Onesome people (not me personally) are upset with Ati because they did not have something to compete with NVidia at the time of the 8800 launch whether DX10 is here or not, you seem to forget that both cards will give a huge performance boost to DX9 also.

I forget nothing. :laugh: Of course they give you better performance...My point is people are upset over ati not releasing something in the manner Nv did...seems odd to me...Nv pushed a product before it was really ready, so does that mean ATI has to release too? I think its smart to wait and release READY product......

Tatty_Onesome people just like fast in whichever guise is comes in.

Then why do they need ati to release a new line if all they want is the fastest card?...right now that is 8 series from Nv..And they can get that almost anywhere right now..

I too have owned from both sides...and i can't really tell any difference between the two...lol...Nv had great drivers for a while, and ATI has always had "crap" drivers IMO...but benchmarks aside, while in game there is not much difference seen...

SilentAces. I understand that those with fx5200's or 9600xt's want to upgrade and don't want to waste money on DX9 when the new DX10 line is around the corner...

Like i said before , I understand peoples frustration, but i just think that if ATI had released something before it was ready they would have been met with upset customers...so they are damned for not releasing, and damned if they released to early...

When?.....there are a number of articles/threads on these forums, here is but one, TBH couldn't be bothered to look for more, you will see in the first post it refers to the origional report of the release, it's here:

forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=25536

No it does not mean ATi has to release too, I didnt say they should, in fact i said the opposite.

And why do they want ATi to release their new card if all they want is the fastest as the 8800GTX is top dog, very good point but those who ONLY buy ATi probably hate to think NVidia has the fastest card and of course their mouths are drooling over the thought that the R600 will be faster in any case.

I dont disagree with any of your points, all my point is there clearly are people out there who think that speed is the king, that money dont matter and that if they have a preference for ATi then they think that the R600 should already be on the shelves........personally......I dont as I am not going DX10 till there is a DX10 game to play, I am more than happy with my card at the moment.

Hope i didn't seem rude...when i asked WHEN..i was really wondering..lol..i had heard they were coming of course, but hadn't heard of an ETA for them...And even tho i quoted you i was addressing the WHOLE of the thread with most of what i said, hope that didn't come off as rude..

Like you i too am waiting for DX10 games first...by then the next gen of cards will be in "grapevine" that will be the best time to buy, card prices will start to drop a bit...:rockout:

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Tag your it TATTY...lol..

SilentAcesHope i didn't seem rude...when i asked WHEN..i was really wondering..lol..i had heard they were coming of course, but hadn't heard of an ETA for them...And even tho i quoted you i was addressing the WHOLE of the thread with most of what i said, hope that didn't come off as rude..

Like you i too am waiting for DX10 games first...by then the next gen of cards will be in "grapevine" that will be the best time to buy, card prices will start to drop a bit...:rockout:

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Tag your it TATTY...lol..

No you didnt seem rude.....no worries :D ......and tag back!

ChewyI dont see why you wouldn't be able to wait though. you had/have a 7900GTX :O I think that has 512mb ram too so you shouldn't have any problems running just about any dx9 card at max everything without needing to tweak the game.

Oh I guess if your into online first person shooter games though the more fps you have the better eh :P I don't really play fps games much so that didn't come to mind right away.

i still have the 7900gtx, to be sold in july so i can get a dx10, i had the money to get a 8800gtx, but i think i did the right thing and waited, to see the coompettition, and i would only need a dx10 for a dx10 game, so until crysis comes out, i think im staying out of the local retailers.

Fake Fake Fake...

First of alll I am from Turkey and I know that person, fx57

He is from a Forum named Donanimhaber meaning Harwarenews..

In his site it writes that

"we have recieved these results from very trustworthy source"

Not they tested the shit...

The web site is opened new so his aim is to gain users...and waht you do? Believe him.:banghead:

THIS NEWS IS TOTAL FAKE DONT BELIEVE IT

Whıch stupid tests the card with the driver 7.1 on 12 April? when tehre is 7.2 and even 7.3?


Oh look he released a new news....Benchmark result....I am sure this is fake tooo..:banghead: