Thursday, October 13th 2022

Intel Core i9-13900KF CPU Arrives Before the Official Launch
Intel's upcoming 13th generation of Core processors, codenamed "Raptor Lake," is supposed to arrive in the coming days. Apparently, one user pre-ordered the CPU and got it delivered to their home. Pictured below is the box of Intel Core i9-13900KF CPU. This SKU comes without integrated graphics and boasts eight P-cores with 16 E-cores on board. This is supposed to boost performance, along with the higher frequencies Raptor Lake is advertised to bring. The user even showed screenshots of proof that the software recognizes this upcoming model, so the information seems legit. In the screenshots below, we see that the P-cores of this SKU is reaching 5.5 GHz clock speeds. We are yet to see how much this silicon is capable of; however, the frequency alone looks promising.
Sources:
Jeges @ OC.net, via champsilva (TPU Forums)
68 Comments on Intel Core i9-13900KF CPU Arrives Before the Official Launch
"picks up mic" But it doesnt compete with the pentium 4 or the 12900k so I dont see why it matters
Also, no on in it's right mind will buy zen4 before seeing RL lunch which might be faster and all around cheaper platform.
Take back you mic and keep trying :)
now your just trolling....... It is indeed the case, and its a brand new product, and its better, of course its going to cost more........give it some time and that will change.
RL might be faster (barely by the looks of things)......and its only cheaper IF and thats a big IF anyone bought into the platform which......not many did as it was more of a catch up then anything else. Anyone on AM4 just yawned and moved on as we can just drop in a 5950X or a 5800X depending if you want work load performance or gaming and most people have a AM4 system so........
I will keep the mic just where it is I think :)
On the matter, if a new "better product" cost me more and give me less relative to other new product than well, I wont buy it..
Other than whoever actually tend to upgrade cpus every 1-3 years (most people don`t) , AM5 is of no benefit while cost more than other current options, AM4 included. You also need to consider upgrading your cooler if you take it from AM4 setup.
I myself upgrade platform every 10+ years (see my spec) so I don`t really care if the motherboard will get old in 1 or 5 years time.
AL is not much of catch up vs. ZEN3 (I guess you didn`t compere it to ZEN4 in this regard), it pretty much dominating almost every test, especially gaming, up to 24 threds and on some even up to 32 threds.
I foresee a plethora of mic-on-the-floor in the end of this debate.
Just can't get enough of a good thing, I guess.
Out to get some more for everyone use.
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Well if that is the case then you or anyone else wouldnt of bought any intel set up for the past few yrs? right? Your logical is flawed....
Nope AM4 is defiantly not included in that, Will I jump to AM5? hell no, not when I have a AM4 system that can match a brand new AL system, you be mad to jump to any of those at this time.
And ill be the same I can keep this system going for a good 10yrs easy without changing the motherboard, fyi your i5 is a massive bottle neck if you play any modern games from the last few yrs.....so your system doesnt really count in this discussion, just saying.
That is where your wrong, big fat wrong, AL was indeed just a catchup, go look up any reviews online, heck ill post a few since no one else here seems to be able to :roll:which makes me laugh and proves my point again and again.
Here you go!!
If you can show me where the AL and in your words "dominates" please feel free to try your best :toast: Of course it will be compared to the 13700K but......you cant.....and until then what is intels best CPU out at the moment? hmmmm? I mean come on, its just common sense, how can you compare something when its not even out? Please if you got a review, a legitimate real review then please feel free to post it right now! Ill wait ;) So maybe you should stop with the fanboyyism since your actually the one spreading BS when it literally isnt even there yet...and you call me the fan boy? :roll::slap:
13900K and 7950X aren't gaming CPU, just like a 4090 in my opinion is not a gaming graphic card.
It's all marketing, nothing more.
Here above we have a game running at 700+ FPS and another running "just" at 650... seriously ? :shadedshu:
Because you're right in a realistic sense, +/- 10% right now won't matter. It won't be something any typical user can feel or see 99% of the time.
That's why what I usually think about on those kind of differences is in the context of a few years from now, when my PC is getting older, and it is running near max performance more often. That's when the 10% will show up.
AM4 is very good indeed, to the point it makes AM5 irrelevant to most. Also AL vs AM5, for the same reasons.
If you after the multi threaded- 7950x is the better choice for the next few days until RL is here.
The point is there is no reason to go to AM5 right now, although it introduce a big improvement, most of them inline with AL. Just unappealing platform for most.
AL can't be a catch up for AM5 because it was lunched way before it. It may be a catch up for zen3 (if it came after it, dont remember) and by TPU 5800x3d review, the 12900k has the appear hand on non gaming applications and games that dont benefit from the extra catch. The overall average advantage in gaming is nice but not dramatic because of the big variability of fps gain in the different games.
All in all, 5800x3d do better is some games, equal to worse in others and has worse preformance than 5800x and 12900k in applications.
AMD has a nice offering with AM4 but AL is equal or better in some case, mostly gaming related.
AM5 cost too much vs. AL for most people and RL will make it even more distinct when bing the stronger, cheaper options in not few cases.
Choose as you will, but accept that there is no one best CPU to all usage.
From my perspective, intel has the better overall consumer line for most cases.
AMD make up to it BIG TIME in the HEDT and server markets.
In theory at least, the voltage you need for a certain frequency is still the same. If you increase LLC you should decrease voltage offset to keep it at an equal value at the target frequency. This will cause voltage at every other frequency to decrease though, or in other words, would avoid increasing vcore too much everywhere, for reaching those speeds.
About the switching frequency not changing stuff, I have no answer though, very little experience with it.