Thursday, November 17th 2022

NVIDIA Plans GeForce RTX 4060 Launch for Summer 2023, Performance Rivaling RTX 3070

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NVIDIA is reportedly planning to ramp its GeForce "Ada" generation into the high-volume performance segment by Summer 2023, with the introduction of the GeForce RTX 4060. The card is expected to launch somewhere around June, 2023. The card will be based on the 4 nm "AD106" silicon, the 4th chip based on the "Ada Lovelace" graphics architecture. Wolstame. a reliable source with NVIDIA leaks as Lenovo's Legion gaming desktop product manager, predicts that the RTX 4060 performance could end up matching that of the current RTX 3070 at a lower price-point.

This should make it a reasonably fast graphics card for 1440p AAA gaming with high-ultra settings, and ray tracing thrown in. What's interesting is if NVIDIA is expected to extend the DLSS 3 frame-generation feature to even this segment of graphics cards, which means a near-100% frame rate uplift can be had. Other predictions include a board power expected to be in the range of 150-180 W, and a 10% generational price-increase, which would mean that the RTX 4060 would have a launch-price similar to that of the RTX 3060 Ti (USD $399).
Sources: harukaze5719 (Twitter), VideoCardz

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165 Comments on NVIDIA Plans GeForce RTX 4060 Launch for Summer 2023, Performance Rivaling RTX 3070

#26
TheoneandonlyMrK
No doubt with a price rivalling a 3080 at this rate, I'm betting on 650£ for this entry to mainstream card.
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#27
N3M3515
bug$400 is rather acceptable, if true. However, if 4060 is $400 while 4080 is $1,200, there's a pretty wide space to be covered just by the 4070.

Edit: Also, that's almost a full year of milking the 4090 and 4080.
4060 Super
4060 Ti
4070
4070 Super
4070 Ti
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#28
defaultluser
spnideldo you remember when the 1060 was on par with the 980? I do, and that's why these new cards suck in terms of value
hey, at least the clearance discounts should be as high as the 1060 was during the ether selloff

You can dress these things up as well as you want, but in the end of the day, the improvements for mid-range are not enough to move any additional stock for folks who want a 20 percent performance bump over their 3060 ti! There is simultaneously any additional 3070 stock that will end-up choking eBay once the 4070 ti launches in week 1 January!
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#29
N3M3515
john_going from 3060 performance to 3070, with also a price increase is not really something great
Thinking the same, it isn't worth it.
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#30
mechtech
Remember when ATI released HD 3850 then the HD 4850 and the 4850 basically had double the performance for roughly the same price. I remember those days.
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#31
AusWolf
spnideldo you remember when the 1060 was on par with the 980? I do, and that's why these new cards suck in terms of value
Modern x60 cards still match old x80 ones... at least in price. :roll:
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#32
freeagent
Might be trying my fist AMD card since the Asus 4890 was the shit :)
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#33
Dr. Dro
AusWolfExcept when they don't (Batterygate).

I think buying a 3070 or a 6700 XT today is a much better value than waiting half a year for a card with a similar performance and MSRP.
Well, I have no complaints about Apple's handling of the whole battery issue back then. I understand why they did it, though I agree they should have been more transparent. It wasn't malicious (quite unusual of Apple), and they did make good to their customers.

I had an iPhone SE at the time, it was affected, and just gotten off-warranty... after the story blew up Apple quickly announced a battery replacement program and I had my phone serviced, they replaced the battery for me at a local partnered Apple Store at an exceptionally modest sum, something that would barely amount to $15 at the time. End result, I got a brand new, genuine Apple battery for peanuts, and I was satisfied.

Agreed, though. It's just a better value and potentially, better performance too. I just don't really see the point in these cards.
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#34
bug
N3M35154060 Super
4060 Ti
4070
4070 Super
4070 Ti
Was there ever a Super variant next to Ti? I honestly don't remember.
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#35
SOAREVERSOR
Dr. DroThis product line is an unmitigated disaster.
How so? Both the 4080 and 4090 did sell out and also rocketed up in cost past MSRP proving that higher end cards not only can, but SHOULD be priced even higher next time. If you can push your product and it's selling over what you asked for that's a huge win and it ensures you price higher the next round going for a bigger win.

We'll have to wait to see what the other cards do but a lot of people are going to have to get used to the fact that they are now in the 4060 or 4050 group and they are not going to get back into the 4080 group.
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#36
N3M3515
bugWas there ever a Super variant next to Ti? I honestly don't remember.
Yeah, a few years ago: gtx 1660 ti and gtx 1660 super
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#37
SOAREVERSOR
bugWas there ever a Super variant next to Ti? I honestly don't remember.
Nope. But we did used to have the GT and Ultra variants of things.
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#38
Dr. Dro
SOAREVERSORHow so? Both the 4080 and 4090 did sell out and also rocketed up in cost past MSRP proving that higher end cards not only can, but SHOULD be priced even higher next time. If you can push your product and it's selling over what you asked for that's a huge win and it ensures you price higher the next round going for a bigger win.

We'll have to wait to see what the other cards do but a lot of people are going to have to get used to the fact that they are now in the 4060 or 4050 group and they are not going to get back into the 4080 group.
Valid from a corporate perspective, but I am not an NVIDIA stakeholder :p
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#39
AusWolf
SOAREVERSORHow so? Both the 4080 and 4090 did sell out and also rocketed up in cost past MSRP proving that higher end cards not only can, but SHOULD be priced even higher next time. If you can push your product and it's selling over what you asked for that's a huge win and it ensures you price higher the next round going for a bigger win.

We'll have to wait to see what the other cards do but a lot of people are going to have to get used to the fact that they are now in the 4060 or 4050 group and they are not going to get back into the 4080 group.
It's not a disaster for Nvidia, it's a disaster for us.
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#40
medi01
So confident AMD won't go low range earlier?
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#41
Unregistered
spnideldo you remember when the 1060 was on par with the 980? I do, and that's why these new cards suck in terms of value
And the 1070 on par with the 980ti, seems lot of people forgot what a true generational leap is.
#42
AnotherReader
medi01So confident AMD won't go low range earlier?
If RDNA3's launch is similar to RDNA2's, we won't see the 7600XT until late summer.
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#43
neatfeatguy
I'm trying to figure this out. The 4070Ti (what was the 4080 12GB) is - based on the DLSS 3.0 graphs floating around out there - is a little bit behind the 3090Ti. It would be safe to say the 4070Ti should perform at a 3090 level.
4070Ti = 3090
3090 = 10% faster than 3080 10GB
3080 10GB is about 20% faster than the 3070.

If the 4060 is to "rival" the 3070, but there's no mention of being at a 3080 level, I'd venture to guess the 4060 should be around 5 to maybe 10% faster.

Does that mean the 4070 is only going to only match the 3080 10GB? I'm guessing $599 price on the 4070.

Speculating, the mid ranged for Nvidia doesn't appear to be very impressive.
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#44
medi01
AnotherReaderIf RDNA3's launch is similar to RDNA2's, we won't see the 7600XT until late summer.
I thought chiplet approach changes it and Navi33 is essentially Navi32 without chiplets, so it could come sooner.

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#45
AnotherReader
medi01I thought chiplet approach changes it and Navi33 is essentially Navi32 without chiplets, so it could come sooner.
I hope you're right.
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#46
watzupken
I am not optimistic about a 10% generational price increase for the RTX 4060. Looking at current Ada GPU stack, the 4080 and 4070 series are not cheap as compared to what they are replacing. They offer more perfomance for sure, but its really like someone paying more for a better card.
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#47
bug
neatfeatguyI'm trying to figure this out. The 4070Ti (what was the 4080 12GB) is - based on the DLSS 3.0 graphs floating around out there - is a little bit behind the 3090Ti. It would be safe to say the 4070Ti should perform at a 3090 level.
4070Ti = 3090
3090 = 10% faster than 3080 10GB
3080 10GB is about 20% faster than the 3070.

If the 4060 is to "rival" the 3070, but there's no mention of being at a 3080 level, I'd venture to guess the 4060 should be around 5 to maybe 10% faster.

Does that mean the 4070 is only going to only match the 3080 10GB? I'm guessing $599 price on the 4070.

Speculating, the mid ranged for Nvidia doesn't appear to be very impressive.
Don't try to read too much into it, if it's to be released in the summer of 23, clocks aren't set in stone yet. Probably neither is the chip configuration. So whatever numbers may leak, they're from engineering samples of something that's not finished.
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#48
watzupken
medi01I thought chiplet approach changes it and Navi33 is essentially Navi32 without chiplets, so it could come sooner.

I believe Navi 32 and 33 are vastly different chips. Considering the Navi 33 is manufactured on TSMC 6nm, I am not surprised if this may be derived from current Navi 2x.
In any case, I would have thought that the key benefits of going chiplet design is to lower cost and improve yield. So it may not improve the time to market for the lower end parts.
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#49
Chrispy_
You could wait until Summer 2023 to get a 4060 for $399+
Or you could buy a 3070 right now for ~$350 and enjoy it for 6-9 months before the 4060 is even available.
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#50
john_
64KI'm not sure how the MSRP of the 3060 Ti slipped into this discussion.
I am explaining the thinking. Considering that naming is irrelevant today, because as we have seen Nvidia can change a name because of negative reactions, 4080 12GB is becoming the 4070 Ti 12GB, or the huge difference in price between cards, RTX 3080 at $700, RTX 4080 at $1200, or even the price increase, RTX 3060 at $329, RTX 4060 rumored at $399, the best way to avoid falling victims of marketing and at the same time maintain a stable base, is to compare what we had at a price point until now and what is replacing it today or tomorrow. Does, for example, really makes sense to compare RTX 4080 to RTX 3080 when there is a price difference of $500? And if RTX 4060 is coming at $399, why compare it to the RTX 3060 and not the card that it came at the same MSRP before, the RTX 3060 Ti?
It's simple and I think it's how we should start looking at cards in the future. We shouldn't limit ourselves because of what sticker the manufacturer decides to put on the box.
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