Friday, February 10th 2023

MSI Enables Support for 24 & 48 GB DDR5 DIMMs, up to 192GB RAM

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TheLostSwede
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Today MSI is announcing the support of 48 GB and 24 GB DDR5, non-binary memory across Intel 700 and 600 Series motherboards, including MEG, MPG, MAG, and PRO Series products. Namely, the maximum memory capacity support is increased to 192 GB for 4 DIMMs motherboards and 96 GB for 2 DIMMs motherboards. MSI has committed to providing performance and compatibility to DIY enthusiasts.

It is unnecessary to update motherboard BIOS for supporting 48 GB based memory modules. Just install the new memory module to enjoy a more efficient system with more productivity, especially for those multi-tasking gamers and users.
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46 Comments on MSI Enables Support for 24 & 48 GB DDR5 DIMMs, up to 192GB RAM

#1
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
48GB in a single unregistered and unbuffered DIMM. What a time to be alive!
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#2
Harthad
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#4
Chaitanya
I know 13th Gen should handle these capacities, just wondering how stable 12th Gen would be and if there are any updates to AM5 regarding added support for 24 and 48GB DiMMs. Would like to get a 12Core CPU and have 96GB(4x24) RAM.
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#5
Wirko
This must be some TLC black magic, or how else do they put three bits where there should be two.
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#6
TumbleGeorge
This is only a temporary solution. To "patch it up" until next year's release of 64GB memory modules for the ZEN 5(Ryzen 8000) and next Intel generation (not RL refresh).
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#7
TheLostSwede
News Editor
WirkoThis must be some TLC black magic, or how else do they put three bits where there should be two.
No, no TLC kind of thing going on here.
Instead, it's taller stacks of DRAM which allow for the unusual module sizes.
It's 24 Gbit or 3 GB per chip.
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#8
thegnome
Would be nice for people not exactly needing 32gb but not really getting away with 16gb.
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#9
ir_cow
DDR5-5200 with 192GB isn't bad at all
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#10
The Egg
Yeah....but then you have to use an MSI motherboard.
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#11
Wirko
TheLostSwedeNo, no TLC kind of thing going on here.
Instead, it's taller stacks of DRAM which allow for the unusual module sizes.
It's 24 Gbit or 3 GB per chip.
Yeah, it was a joke. Although, when I later tried to make sure it was a joke, it turned out it was an ugly truth.
www.eetimes.com/nec-experiments-in-multi-level-cells-for-drams/
blocksandfiles.com/2019/03/30/mlc-dram/

Anyways, do you know for certain it's made with taller stacks? It could also be made by using special dies. Or partly defective ones.
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#12
RH92
The EggYeah....but then you have to use an MSI motherboard.
They litteraly make some of the best boards for both Intel and AMD , i don't see wheres the issue with that ...
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#13
TheLostSwede
News Editor
WirkoYeah, it was a joke. Although, when I later tried to make sure it was a joke, it turned out it was an ugly truth.
www.eetimes.com/nec-experiments-in-multi-level-cells-for-drams/
blocksandfiles.com/2019/03/30/mlc-dram/
Check the date of that article again...
WirkoAnyways, do you know for certain it's made with taller stacks? It could also be made by using special dies. Or partly defective ones.
Well, each DRAM chip is 50% denser at least, but I presume they stack multiple DRAM dies in the same packaging.
This is based on what Samsung has announced.

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#14
trsttte
What the heck is this now? Really neat hyping up the higher density of memory chips that fall outside the common practice of using powers of 2, what they don't mention is the performance loss of this higher density chips.

For servers of course this is an obvious necessity when some cpu don't even support more than a single dimm per channel, for consumer users though? Seems like a bunch of nonsense to me.
TheLostSwedeWell, each DRAM chip is 50% denser at least, but I presume they stack multiple DRAM dies in the same packaging.
This is based on what Samsung has announced.
Micron is doing 24gbit ddr5 chips
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#15
TheLostSwede
News Editor
trsttteMicron is doing 24gbit ddr5 chips
So is SK Hynix.
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#16
thegnome
The EggYeah....but then you have to use an MSI motherboard.
Not as bad though, I could only see Asus as somewhat better but they also have their flaws. Basically only EVGA is left but aint nobody got money for that...
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#17
Wirko
It appears that 32Gb dies aren't being manufactured yet, so 24Gb dies were introduced as an interim solution between 16Gb (standard now) and 32Gb (Samsung announced those for early 2023).

Regarding stacking ... how are current 32GB modules made, are there 16 packages containing a single die on a module, or 8 packages with two stacked dies?
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#18
Minus Infinity
WirkoIt appears that 32Gb dies aren't being manufactured yet, so 24Gb dies were introduced as an interim solution between 16Gb (standard now) and 32Gb (Samsung announced those for early 2023).

Regarding stacking ... how are current 32GB modules made, are there 16 packages containing a single die on a module, or 8 packages with two stacked dies?
But you can buy 32GB dimms, so what's the advantage unless you can get 48GB on one stick?
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#19
lexluthermiester
Aquinus48GB in a single unregistered and unbuffered DIMM. What a time to be alive!
Hopefully in variants WITH ECC...
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#20
Wirko
Minus InfinityBut you can buy 32GB dimms, so what's the advantage unless you can get 48GB on one stick?
Of course you'll be able to get a 48GB stick.

8 dies by 16 Gb = 16 GB stick
16 dies by 16 Gb = 32 GB stick
8 dies by 24 Gb = 24 GB stick
16 dies by 24 Gb = 48 GB stick

I'm just asking how these 32 GB (and future 48 GB) sticks are made. Are there 16 dies in 16 chip packages, without stacking? Or in 8 packages, in which case they must be stacked?
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#21
mclaren85
One thing I want to criticize about MSI: they never support ECC ram yet Asus always support that feature.
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#22
MagnuTron
How about fixing 128 GB XMP/DOCP support for modern chipsets first? I have both X670 and Z790 machines out there, with 128 GB setups running 3600 MHz. It's just sad.
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#23
Assimilator
@TheLostSwede Would make more sense if the title was "MSI Enables Support for 24 & 48 GB DDR5 DIMMs, up to 192GB RAM".
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#24
TheLostSwede
News Editor
Assimilator@TheLostSwede Would make more sense if the title was "MSI Enables Support for 24 & 48 GB DDR5 DIMMs, up to 192GB RAM".
I didn't edit the title of the press release, but can do.
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#25
TumbleGeorge
TheLostSwedeI didn't edit the title of the press release, but can do.
Don't. This is not your problem, address it to PR team which write this press release.
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