Wednesday, March 15th 2023
Reference NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Rumored to Launch at $749
According to the latest rumor coming from Moore's Law is Dead, the upcoming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 could have a higher MSRP than expected, and could launch at $749. Yesterday, another rumor pointed out that NVIDIA is splitting the reviews for the GeForce RTX 4070 on two dates, with reference models that are sticking to MSRP going out on April 12th, and custom, higher-priced versions, a day later, on April 13th. The same date, April 13th, is when the GeForce RTX 4070 should hit retail shelves.
According to Moore's Law is Dead, the MSRP for reference versions will be set at $749.99, which is a bit more than earlier expected, and just $50 less than the launch MSRP for the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti. The custom versions, or "premium" as some now called them, could start at $799.99.The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 is also based on the AD104 GPU, as the RTX 4070 Ti, but has 46 streaming multiprocessors (SMs), leaving it with 5,888 CUDA cores enabled. On the other hand, it is rumored to come with the same memory configuration as the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti, featuring 12 GB of 21 Gbps GDDR6X memory on a 192-bit memory interface. The TGP is set at 200 W.
The performance is expected to land somewhere between the RTX 3080 Ti and the RTX 3080, or pretty much in line with the RX 6900 XT. Of course, a 50% bump in the launch price compared to the predecessor, the RTX 3070, leaves a rather sour taste.
Sources:
Moore's Law is Dead (Youtube), via Wccftech
According to Moore's Law is Dead, the MSRP for reference versions will be set at $749.99, which is a bit more than earlier expected, and just $50 less than the launch MSRP for the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti. The custom versions, or "premium" as some now called them, could start at $799.99.The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 is also based on the AD104 GPU, as the RTX 4070 Ti, but has 46 streaming multiprocessors (SMs), leaving it with 5,888 CUDA cores enabled. On the other hand, it is rumored to come with the same memory configuration as the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti, featuring 12 GB of 21 Gbps GDDR6X memory on a 192-bit memory interface. The TGP is set at 200 W.
The performance is expected to land somewhere between the RTX 3080 Ti and the RTX 3080, or pretty much in line with the RX 6900 XT. Of course, a 50% bump in the launch price compared to the predecessor, the RTX 3070, leaves a rather sour taste.
191 Comments on Reference NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Rumored to Launch at $749
NVidia needs to make a video card for gaming. I don't want RT, DLSS, FG, Tensor, CUDA, any of this stuff. I want a GPU core designed for a gaming console.
They went in the wrong direction for gaming, that's why pricing has increased. Nothing good has come out since the 1080 Ti.
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Let me make it more clear. The 1080 Ti is 11 billion transistors. This RTX 4070 will come from almost 40 billion transistors.
Imagine if NVidia just took the 1080 Ti, shrunk it to 4nm, added the best VRAM you can get, and ran it at 3Ghz instead of 1.5Ghz. It would be faster and cheaper. 1/3 the cost.
And let's not forget two things.
First that 4070 price will send more people to buy the 4070 Ti. The same happened with the price of RTX 4080, where many where... persuaded to spend $400 more and go for the RTX 4090.
Second. AMD is quiet. It doesn't make a wisper about mid range cards. So, they are waiting Nvidia to put the price tags and then they will come out with cards at $50-$100 lower. Adding the fact here that Gigabyte launched a new RX 6800 XT, probably means that AMD will NOT release ANYTHING in the coming months, meaning, $750 if you want a NEW card with NEW features (DLSS 3.0).
Interestingly:
1070 MSRP = 379
4070ti MSRP = 799
Three generations worth and more than doubled in price for x3 perf. So quick, poor math says you gained 50% frames/dollar over the course of three whoppin generations. Except you did pay twice the entry fee to get there. Could have bought 2 generational x70s in a normal world.
www.techspot.com/article/2546-dlss-3/
However, with a 4090 costing 14000 BRL/2650 USD here on average, that's a considerable chunk of my (fairly high for my country, mind you) yearly income at present, I just had to put my foot down and say no. They know it's too damn much too, most of the guys there purchased theirs on credit or made some sort of concession to purchase theirs, and that's something I am absolutely unwilling to do. I refuse to contract debt or temporarily lower my standard of living for a graphics card, especially when mine still runs almost every game on ultra settings with decent frame rates, and would be even better if Nvidia stopped lying to us, making up excuses and didn't gate DLSS Frame Generation behind the 40 series. (I blame AMD for being unable to keep up.)
Nvidia should be ashamed. I hope more people do but Ada is selling well. The days owning a flagship GPU to me may be coming to an end.
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more than ashamed, and far more, also fighted by laws, since all over the world people finally reacted to earth beeing poluated two years ago and what Nvidia sells ?... 300-600 watts GPUs ! Inel too is bypassing law with 300w CPUs.
And yes, RTX is good to do tests, not sure it's so good foor end user (12>60 FPS...), i never could see a difference, i tested few games having it, but it looks to do nothing so amazing, perhaps it needs 4k to be spotted and big screens IDK.
I'm honestly even struggling to see the point of a new GPU altogether, when I run stuff on my current one and compare I'm honestly not having any semblance of FOMO for any new feature. Just FPS, really, and that's fixable by nudging settings one click lower... and game still looks fine.
I'm running Elden Ring now at 100 FPS fixed on max settings at 2560x1440. Game looks good enough and plays well... I mean seriously I just don't get how newer games can tank the FPS for what they show you, that much, even sans RT. That, along with graphics cards developments since Turing pushes me into believing its one massive clusterfuck of commercial nonsense led by Nvidia's bags of money to push RT forward - a fake reality, a marketing reality, while the market barely catches up. I'm not paying huge money to live in a marketing dream, but to each their own. And this whole move was clear from the get-go, pre-Turing launch.
Because they did it with the 20x0 series, they hiked prices and in the next gen, they maintained them, suddenly 30x0 series was such a great deal!
store.steampowered.com/app/867210/Songs_of_Conquest/
What's next? 4060 for $699? 4050 for $599? 4030 that can't even play modern games at 1080p for $399?
I wish no one ever bought this piece of junk.
what a steal!
That console is called "Steam Deck", exists for about a year and was bought by about 1 million players so far.
I actually bought one a month ago. Meh cooler aside, rather impressive.
www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/NVDA/nvidia/gross-profit
And to be fair.
www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMD/amd/gross-profit
Though these are only gross profit numbers you can get some information on this site.