Thursday, November 14th 2024
AMD Claims Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 Outperforms Intel Core Ultra 7 258V by 75% in Gaming
AMD has published a blog post about its latest AMD Ryzen AI 300 series processors, claiming they are changing the game for portable devices. To back these claims, Team Red has compared its Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 processor to Intel's latest Core Ultra 7 258V, using the following games: Assassin's Creed Mirage, Baldur's Gate 3, Borderlands 3, Call of Duty: Black Ops 6, Cyberpunk 2077, Doom Eternal, Dying Light 2 Stay Human, F1 24, Far Cry 6, Forza Horizon 5, Ghost of Tsushima, Hitman 3, Hogwarts Legacy, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Spider-Man Remastered, and Tiny Tina's Wonderlands. The conclusion was that AMD's Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, with its integrated Radeon 890M graphics powerhouse, outperformed the Intel "Lunar Lake" Core Ultra 7 258V with Intel Arc Graphics 140V by 75% on average.
To support this performance leap, AMD also relies on software technologies, including FidelityFX Super Resolution 3 (FSR 3) and HYPR-RX, to unlock additional power and gaming efficiency. FSR 3 alone enhances visuals in over 95 games, while HYPR-RX, with features like AMD Fluid Motion Frames 2 (AFMF 2) and Radeon Anti-Lag, provides substantial performance boosts across thousands of games. The company has also compared its FSR/HYPR-RS combination with Intel's XeSS, which is available in around 130 games. AMD claims its broader suite supports 415+ games and is optimized for smoother gameplay. The AFMF 2 claims support with thousands of titles, while Intel's GPU software stack lacks a comparison point. Of course, these marketing claims are to be taken with a grain of salt, so independent testing is always the best to compare the two.
For comparison of pure specifications, the AMD Ryzen 9 HX 370 and Intel Core Ultra 7 258V processors each employ a hybrid core architecture, but AMD's design delivers more total cores and threads. The Ryzen 9 HX 370 boasts 12 cores (four performance and eight efficiency) with 24 threads, while the Core Ultra 7 258V features eight cores and eight threads. In terms of cache, AMD's Ryzen processor includes a substantial 24 MB of shared L3 cache, supported by 1 MB of L2 cache per core. The Lunar Lake chip has each P-core equipped with 192 KB of L1 cache and 2.5 MB of L2 cache while sharing a 12 MB L3 cache, and each E-core has 96 KB of L1 cache along with 4 MB of L2 cache per module.
For graphics, the Ryzen 9 HX 370 integrates the Radeon 890M, which uses RDNA 3.5 architecture with 16 compute units running up to 2.9 GHz. This delivers impressive graphics capabilities for an integrated GPU, in contrast to Intel's Core Ultra 7 258V, which includes Intel Xe-LPG graphics, a capable option but generally less optimized for games than AMD's graphics. Intel's Intel Arc Graphics 140V has eight Xe-LPG cores clocked at 1.95 GHz.
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To support this performance leap, AMD also relies on software technologies, including FidelityFX Super Resolution 3 (FSR 3) and HYPR-RX, to unlock additional power and gaming efficiency. FSR 3 alone enhances visuals in over 95 games, while HYPR-RX, with features like AMD Fluid Motion Frames 2 (AFMF 2) and Radeon Anti-Lag, provides substantial performance boosts across thousands of games. The company has also compared its FSR/HYPR-RS combination with Intel's XeSS, which is available in around 130 games. AMD claims its broader suite supports 415+ games and is optimized for smoother gameplay. The AFMF 2 claims support with thousands of titles, while Intel's GPU software stack lacks a comparison point. Of course, these marketing claims are to be taken with a grain of salt, so independent testing is always the best to compare the two.
For graphics, the Ryzen 9 HX 370 integrates the Radeon 890M, which uses RDNA 3.5 architecture with 16 compute units running up to 2.9 GHz. This delivers impressive graphics capabilities for an integrated GPU, in contrast to Intel's Core Ultra 7 258V, which includes Intel Xe-LPG graphics, a capable option but generally less optimized for games than AMD's graphics. Intel's Intel Arc Graphics 140V has eight Xe-LPG cores clocked at 1.95 GHz.
21 Comments on AMD Claims Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 Outperforms Intel Core Ultra 7 258V by 75% in Gaming
Lastly, why compare the 258V to the 370? The 370 is AMD's top model. The 268V and the 288V would both do better than the 258V. I think it'd be fair to compare the 258V to the 365.
the actual solution has already been presented. Wider memory busses, larger GPU core counts, and x3d cache. AMD simply refuses to implement these solutions en masse. We've seen the sheer difference x3d makes on the desktop chips,w here even the meager 2cu igpus see major performance increases. This will only escalate with larger chips.God if I wanted to rub vaseline on my eyeballs and play at 640x480 I can just do that!
Screw it, have 1 gazillion FPS, we da best.
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All of this said, I think it will be scarier now when I only see low teens on the generational performance gaps...because it'll remind me exactly what shenanigans can be pulled behind the scenes. If AMD had claimed they were 20-30% faster I'd have bought it without immediately calling them...and it would have taken effort to prove them wrong. When they claim such a silly discrepancy it immediately raises the hackles and makes you feel cheated. That's just a bad showing.
They need triple or quad channel DDR5, and more LLC, 64 MB, 96 MB or even 128 MB would suffice, and make the APU look not that bad.
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www.amd.com/en/products/processors/laptop/ryzen/300-series/amd-ryzen-ai-9-hx-370.html
socket fp8...................it's a laptop chip?
meh
They don't want to scare away their 2 top paying large volume customers - m$ and Sony - by making a competing product that is too similar. Maybe they even have some legal clause about that.
If that wasn't the case, instead of quad DDR5 and/or in addition to large cache, they could easily use GDDR[6-7]* for unified system memory.