Dr. DroThank God I am not a Dad (that I know of, but then again it has been a year, I guess I would know by now :laugh:)

tl;dr

Unfortunately, not everyone is lucky enough to have your life path.

So far, I wasn't taking the 2.5-3K for a 5090 seriously.
After so many leaks and reports about the 5080 and 5090 prices, I start to believe that the 5090 will not be introduced as a gaming card.
The leather jacket man may introduce the 5080 as the absolute gaming gpu, especially if it manages to match the 4090, and the 5090 as a BFGPU for content creators or engineers.
Also they could do it by adding some quadro/Titan RTX features in it to justify the price even more.

But in no case he can say this is a 2500-3000$ card to play games. He just can't.

TumbleGeorgeUnfortunately, not everyone is lucky enough to have your life path.

Which is kind of precisely my point... we are actually in resounding agreement

If you are struggling there is no shame in a hustle... you just don't need to have a RTX 5090 or an iPhone 16 Pro Max brother. I choose my battles, I have an almost 7 year old iPhone Xs I bought second hand. If you need to show off that you have the latest phone or the strongest graphics card because of peer pressure, idk what to tell you but reevaluate your life! ;)

It was to be expected that 512bit cards would be costing a heck of a lot wouldn’t surprise me one bit to see them priced over 3000 here in euroland.

total stagnation on the consumer side while being distracted by faked frames and other bs.

kondaminIt was to be expected that 512bit cards would be costing a heck of a lot wouldn’t surprise me one bit to see them priced over 3000 here in euroland.

total stagnation on the consumer side while being distracted by faked frames and other bs.

IF it's relatively stagnated, but they give the features to buyers of Ada and at least some to buyers of Ampere, I will be ok with it, it´s not like the 4080 and 4090 cannot play video games well. Sucks a little though.

Dr. DroIF it's relatively stagnated, but they give the features to buyers of Ada and at least some to buyers of Ampere, I will be ok with it, it´s not like the 4080 and 4090 cannot play video games well. Sucks a little though.

It gives room for the competition to catch-up.

kondaminIt gives room for the competition to catch-up.

Some very badly needed room I might add

Prima.VeraMe, with reading those kind of news, looking at my RTX 3080:

I guess this is the biggest beef I have with modern GPU's, when AIB's used to make their own custom boards for the GPU, with more VRAM, they often used better VRM and other components that last, if you strip the "shiny cooler" off, you see the bare minimum effort that was made, but at one hell of a price increase, add that with a crappy warranty and you just don't feel good about your purchase anymore, nor feel secure that it will last longer than 5 years.

Neo_MorpheusDamn you AMD.

It's all your fault!

/S ..?

Those prices are simply insane, but watch people still paying them.

I guess you're not counting yourself as "people", so you must have a better option?

OnasiVery based, honestly. And quite in vein of actual PC enthusiasts of old. What the fuck happened? We used to buy cheaper hardware and tinker with it for more performance, we tweaked the shit out of games for more frames at comparable image quality, hardcore FPS enthusiasts used console commands to run Q3 with flat textures to frag more efficiently on their old 800x600 CRTs. We had tons of genres that weren’t HW intensive, yet QUINTESSENTIALY PC. And some that WERE intensive AND PC centric. Consoles used to be memed on. Now it’s all about “I bought this 9999$ GPU and a scalped 800$ CPU, turned up PT to Ultra at 16K in the latest AAA console slop and shit doesn’t work good. Fucking NVidia, PC gaming is dead”. I tell ya, we didn’t gatekeep hard enough.

A lot of games can be played on iGPU, even including new ones. Most of demanding games are AAA slops not worth playing. It's hard to justify going high-end nowadays.

DahitaI guess you're not counting yourself as "people", so you must have a better option?

My 7900 xtx its serving its purpose rather well.

Same for the 6900 xt that replaced.

so…yes?

Why_MeGaming at 4K is an expensive choice.

Yep. But to be honest, it's far from the MOST expensive hobby you could have.

Neo_MorpheusMy 7900 xtx its serving its purpose rather well.

Same for the 6900 xt that replaced.

so…yes?

Same man. I've been very happy with the value those two gens of amd brought me. 3090ti before the 6900 XT and while it was a good card, a value argument is hard to make for it. :laugh:

ir_cow$2,600 isn't the worst. At least it will stay in stock. Anyone remember the Titan Z for $3,000 that didn't even stay king for a year? Not to mention the SLI thingy. Just two GTX 780s underclocked :)

Idk, a thousand-dollar markup over a 4090 is pretty bad.

Is that all? us Aussies say Hold My Beer! Incoming 5k Card

LOL, don't normalize these super high prices. Don't buy 'em

The more Radeon you buy, the more you save! :respect:

chris.londonThat is odd, potentially fake. The 5090 won’t be on sale in China.

john_It's not about tariffs, but compute power exceeding what is allowed to be sold in China.

The Chinese have many friends around the world, they will import them from elsewhere. There is a free market, and such restrictions are first impossible to enforce, and second they are illegal.

Neo_MorpheusMy 7900 xtx its serving its purpose rather well.

Same for the 6900 xt that replaced.

so…yes?

For someone who needs to replace his aging card with a new one.... Duh :kookoo: .

KaleidLOL, don't normalize these super high prices. Don't buy 'em

Problemhhere is that people will still buy it, maybe not for gaming but for AI and rendering.

Expensive but if you can afford it, buy one. You can’t take your money with you when you are gone so enjoy it while you can. Live like a king, die like a pauper

GTX 1080 $599, 71% of Shading Units of GTX 1080 Ti. Price of 1080 drops ~30% after Ti debuts. In games Ti ~ Titan.
RTX 2080 - $699 Shading Units 2944, 68% of 2080 Ti the fastest one ($999). 2080 Ti is 94% Titan RT. Most games 2080 Ti - Titan.
RTX 3080 - $699 80% of 3090 Ti where's the Titan? Most expensive card, but not designed for gaming? Usually costing around twice as much XX80 Ti but gamers don't care much. Maybe, just maybe swapping cards, price ranges and performance ? Who is who ? 3090 = 3080 Ti? Hope for cryptocurrency recovery and big sales? RTX 3080 Ti is 95% RTX 3090 Ti (btw Nvidia was sued for including cryptocurrencies in its profit predictions).

RTX 4080 - $1199, a $500 increase over XX80 or 71.5% of predecessor's price.
4080 is only 59% Shading Units from 4090, the first time it's been this low. No 4080 Ti...which usually cost 30% less than the most expensive card. For the price of 4080 we should get 4090 performance, the price of $1200 for 4080 performance is a joke.

TITAN X Pascal cost $1199 compared to $699 for 1080 Ti.
GTX 1080 Ti vs Titan
Shading Units 3584 vs 3584, TMUs 224 vs 224, ROPs 88 vs 96, SM Count 28 vs 28. 11264 MB 352-bit vs 12288 MB on 384-bit, GDDR5X 10000 vs 11000 MHz.
RTX 2080 Ti already cost $999 (since cryptocurrencies sell great?) with $2499 for TITAN RTX. GeForce 30 series does not get Titan card, we have RTX 3090 Ti for $1999. GeForce RTX 40 series - "smallest" XX80 and the most expensive.
In GeFroce RTX 40 series we have the biggest cuts in every area of the card's construction and regardless of the price range, even increases despite the cuts.

The more you pay more, the less you get.:rolleyes:

real question is what games people want to play with such ultra expensive hardware.

a lot of years ago from a gamer perspective there was some kind of need to upgrade to play latest numerous very cool games released every year, but today?

the cost of making multiple A games is skyrocketed, their release time dilated, and their quality and fun are very meh. a over 1000$/eur gpu to play what?
some notorius 2024 success like Balatro?
or to justify the capability to enable some graphics option in the settings, like that trojan horse of RT?

can't you spot a fake when you see one?
they can't sell the 5090 in China, it will be over the performance limit that Nvidia is allowed to sell in China,. Hell, even the 5080 probably will be let alone the 5090

If true that's an insane price for a 5090.

I don’t think this is official msrp pricing, more a 1 vendor thing with actual terrible pricing. The rumours are around 1800-2000$, so ya’ll got clickbaited. Probably. Let’s hope. ;)

And yet another leak, this time from Australia (pricing comperable):