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NVIDIA 2025 International CES Keynote: Liveblog

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NVIDIA kicks off the 2025 International CES with a bang. The company is expected to debut its new GeForce "Blackwell" RTX 5000 generation of gaming graphics cards. It is also expected to launch new technology, such as neural rendering, and DLSS 4. The company is also expected to highlight a new piece of silicon for Windows on Arm laptops, showcase the next in its Drive PX FSD hardware, and probably even talk about its next-generation "Blackwell Ultra" AI GPU, and if we're lucky, even namedrop "Rubin." Join us, as we liveblog CEO Jensen Huang's keynote address.

02:22 UTC: The show is finally underway!
02:35 UTC: CTA president Gary Shaprio kicks off the show, introduces Jensen Huang.
02:46 UTC: "Tokens are the building blocks of AI"

02:46 UTC: "Do you like my jacket?"
02:47 UTC: NVIDIA recounts progress all the way till NV1 and UDA.
02:48 UTC: "CUDA was difficult to explain, it took 6 years to get the industry to like it"
02:50 UTC: "AI is coming home to GeForce". NVIDIA teases neural material and neural rendering. Rendered on "Blackwell"
02:55 UTC: Every single pixel is ray traced, thanks to AI rendering.
02:55 UTC: Here it is, the GeForce RTX 5090.
03:20 UTC: At least someone is pushing the limits for GPUs.
03:22 UTC: Incredible board design.
03:22 UTC: RTX 5070 matches RTX 4090 at $550.
03:24 UTC: Here's the lineup, available from January.
03:24 UTC: RTX 5070 Laptop starts at $1299.
03:24 UTC: "The future of computer graphics is neural rendering"
03:25 UTC: Laptops powered by RTX Blackwell: staring prices:
03:26 UTC: AI has come back to power GeForce.
03:28 UTC: Supposedly the Grace Blackwell NVLink72.
03:28 UTC: 1.4 ExaFLOPS.
03:32 UTC: NVIDIA very sneakily teased a Windows AI PC chip.

03:35 UTC: NVIDIA is teaching generative AI basic physics. NVIDIA Cosmos, a world foundation model.
03:41 UTC: NVIDIA Cosmos is trained on 20 million hours of video.

03:43 UTC: Cosmos is open-licensed on GitHub.

03:52 UTC: NVIDIA onboards Toyota for its next generation EV for full-self driving.

03:53 UTC: NVIDIA unveils Thor Blackwell robotics processor.
03:53 UTC: Thor is 20x the processing capability of Orin.

03:54 UTC: CUDA is now a functional safe computer thanks to its automobile certifications.
04:01 UTC: NVIDIA brought a dozen humanoid robots to the stage.

04:07 UTC: Project DIGITS, is a shrunk down AI supercomputer.
04:08 UTC: NVIDIA GB110 "Grace-Blackwell" chip powers DIGITS.

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435 Comments on NVIDIA 2025 International CES Keynote: Liveblog

#51
wolf
Better Than Native
AusWolfIf in pure gaming performance, then that's a very interesting proposition.
It absolutely won't be as fast in 'traditional' rendering, that will be with multi frame gen, I can just about promise that.
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#52
Guwapo77
Battler624A 60 class card called a 70 class and priced accordingly.

We need to see the actual performance in numbers without upscalers/frame generation to actually determine if its good
It will be better than the 40 series and cost the same. I highly doubt this will be an Intel situation.
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#53
Crackong
Just look at the first two and it should be the actual difference of 5090 vs 4090

The rest of it is DLSS MFG 4X, so 1 real frame to 4 fake frames.

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#54
AusWolf
wolfIt absolutely won't be as fast in 'traditional' rendering, that will be with multi frame gen, I can just about promise that.
Then that's shit. The only time frame gen doesn't work is when it's needed.

If Nvidia only shows frame gen performance in this keynote, then I'll reserve all my opinion until proper reviews are out.
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#55
igormp
Nice to see them doing some marketing for WSL2, means that they basically gave up on trying to do compute natively in windows lol
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#56
AusWolf
CrackongJust look at the first two and it should be the actual difference of 5090 vs 4090

The rest of it is DLSS MFG 4X, so 1 real frame to 4 fake frames.

Oh no, another fake gimmick just to make the new stuff look better than it is. Way to go, Nvidia, I thought it couldn't get worse after the AMD keynote. I was wrong. :shadedshu:

What's coming with the 60x series? FG 8x? What a load of crap!
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#57
Cheeseball
Not a Potato
QUANTUMPHYSICS$2000 for the 5090

But what's the retail price?
At least here in the US, it would still be that price. You just gotta be fast when checking out. I'm not sure about our European and Asian enthusiasts though.

When I had a RTX 4090 before in 2022, I got it at Best Buy (US) for...



So yes, it is possible to get them MSRP, but you would need to be fast, which should not be the case, but hey blame the corporations for playing the capitalism game.
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#59
Dr. Dro
Guwapo77If you can get he first batch, the price should be MSRP. After that, good damn luck for like 6 months to 12 months...
No rush. I paid off all my credit card debt this morning so it's only a matter of waiting for the coffers to replenish a little, 6 months sounds good :D
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#60
oxrufiioxo
ShrimpBrime5090 is a Fkn monster.
it can now do 3 added frames instead of 1.... I don't really like calling it fake because the whole thing is fake.... Show some real performance Nvidia it's not like the top 3 cards your competition will even come close....
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#61
Onasi
Honestly, I am interested in how MFG performs and looks. If they have managed to improve SNR at lower-ish framerates it will be interesting. I am not one to screech about “fake frames” and with the way modern games are going, adding more temporal blur for higher perceived smoothness is really not that bad at this point.
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#62
oxrufiioxo
Dr. DroNo rush. I paid off all my credit card debt this morning so it's only a matter of waiting for the coffers to replenish a little, 6 months sounds good :D
What will 2k translate to you over there 2500-3000$ usd
OnasiHonestly, I am interested in how MFG performs and looks. If they have managed to improve SNR at lower-ish framerates it will be interesting. I am not one to screech about “fake frames” and with the way modern games are going, adding more temporal blur for higher perceived smoothness is really not that bad at this point.
I agree if it's good to the point you can't tell it's on and it just looks like more frames without a huge latency hit vs native fps like 120fps rendered vs 240fps interpolated for example
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#63
hsew
Given that 4070 was only about 8,12, and 20% slower than 3090, I believe 5070 could be within the same level of performance compared to 4090 outside of 4K

Also, sheeeesh, those prices are incredibly tempting! Better than any of us predicted that’s for sure. Apart from x90 (which is 33% increased compared to last gen), every announced GPU so is launching cheaper than its their series counterpart.

I really hope they get the power connector under control this time. And if the super SKUs wind up using 3GB modules, it’ll explain the current gap between 5080 and 5090.
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#64
Guwapo77
Dr. DroNo rush. I paid off all my credit card debt this morning so it's only a matter of waiting for the coffers to replenish a little, 6 months sounds good :D
Its a rush for me... I need it for my rebuild. I got everything but the GPU and CPU. Just ordered my Corsair HX1500i a couple days ago. 5090 and 9950X3D and I'm done for the next decade.
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#65
AusWolf
OnasiHonestly, I am interested in how MFG performs and looks. If they have managed to improve SNR at lower-ish framerates it will be interesting. I am not one to screech about “fake frames” and with the way modern games are going, adding more temporal blur for higher perceived smoothness is really not that bad at this point.
I don't think it can be improved. You can't make 60 frames out of 20 without adding considerable input lag and other oddities. There just isn't enough raw information to work with. FG is a lie.
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#66
Guwapo77
CheeseballAt least here in the US, it would still be that price. You just gotta be fast when checking out. I'm not sure about our European and Asian enthusiasts though.

When I had a RTX 4090 before in 2022, I got it at Best Buy (US) for...



So yes, it is possible to get them MSRP, but you would need to be fast, which should not be the case, but hey blame the corporations for playing the capitalism game.
I saw him out of NY, I thought he was trolling. Yeah the price is what it is in 'murica... Oversea, I feel sorry for ya'll as its gonna be expensive as all hell.
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#67
Dr. Dro
oxrufiioxoWhat will 2k translate to you over there 2500-3000$ usd
Around 3.3k I think.
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#68
oxrufiioxo
Dr. DroAround 3.3k I think.
Damn..... Hopefully you get a good turn around on your 4080s
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#69
ShrimpBrime
oxrufiioxoit can now do 3 added frames instead of 1.... I don't really like calling it fake because the whole thing is fake.... Show some real performance Nvidia it's not like the top 3 cards your competition will even come close....
What is added frames? You mean pre-render? What's wrong with that. 3 is where it should be at imo.
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#70
Zazigalka
Tbh, the regular performance on 5080/5070 will look quite unimpressive I suspect. I wanted to upgrade to a 4080S tier, and it looks like 5070Ti will do, but that's about it. Well, at least it's about 250 saved comparing the two.
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#71
oxrufiioxo
ShrimpBrimeWhat is added frames? You mean pre-render? What's wrong with that. 3 is where it should be at imo.
They are taking 1 frame at 1080p and generating 3 more then upscaling it to 4k all at the same time to get their performance claims..... Something I and everyone else needs to see locally to know how good or bad that is.... Current frame generation only does 1 frame and has a ton of downsides being downright unusable in Esports games.
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#72
igormp
Dr. DroAround 3.3k I think.
That seems about right. Are you ready to do a pre-order at kabum and wait for 2 months to get yours? :laugh:
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#73
Onasi
@AusWolf
20 to 60 is a scenario I don’t think anyone realistically expects. It’s whatever. Turning 40-50 into 100+ effectively is fine for the console style games with a pad though. And smoothing out native 120 to pad out high refresh screens for their owners is not too bad either. It’s a tool, it has its uses.
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#74
AusWolf
ShrimpBrimeWhat is added frames? You mean pre-render? What's wrong with that. 3 is where it should be at imo.
It's not pre-render. It is an extra frame inserted between the current one and the next, extrapolated by AI using data from the previous frame and motion vectors to try to judge what that extra frame should be like. It's a big fat lie.
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#75
ShrimpBrime
oxrufiioxoThey are taking 1 frame at 1080p and generating 3 more then upscaling it to 4k all at the same time to get their performance claims..... Something I and everyone else needs to see locally to know how good or bad that is.... Current frame generation only does 1 frame and has a ton of downsides being downright unusable in Esports games.
Oh that's basically cheating it. Still was expecting 2500+US dollars for that either way.
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