Thursday, January 30th 2025

AMD Radeon 9070 XT Rumored to Outpace RTX 5070 Ti by Almost 15%

It would be fair to say that the GeForce RTX 5080 has been quite disappointing, being roughly 16% faster in gaming than the RTX 4080 Super. Unsurprisingly, this gives AMD a lot of opportunity to offer excellent price-to-performance with its upcoming RDNA 4 GPUs, considering that the RTX 5070 and RTX 5070 Ti aren't really expected to pull off any miracles. According to a recent tidbit shared by the renowned leaker Moore's Law is Dead, the Radeon RX 9070 XT is expected to be around 3% faster than the RTX 4080, if AMD's internal performance goals are anything to go by. MLID also notes that RDNA 4's performance is improving by roughly around 1% each month, which makes it quite likely that the RDNA 4 cards will exceed the targets.

If it does turn out that way, the Radeon RX 9070 XT, according to MLID, should be roughly around 15% faster than its competitor from the Green Camp, the RTX 5070 Ti, and roughly match the RTX 4080 Super in gaming performance. The Radeon RX 9070, on the other hand, is expected to be around 12% faster than the RTX 5070. Of course, these performance improvements are limited to rasterization performance, and when ray tracing is brought to the scene, the performance improvements are expected to be substantially more modest, as per tradition. Citing our data for Cyberpunk 4K with RT, MLID stated that his sources indicate that the RX 9070 XT falls somewhere between the RTX 4070 Ti Super and RTX 3090 Ti, whereas the RX 9070 should likely trade blows with the RTX 4070 Super. Considering AMD's track record with ray tracing, this sure does sound quite enticing.

Of course, it will all boil down to pricing once the RDNA 4 cards hit the scene. If AMD does manage to undercut its competitors from NVIDIA by a reasonable margin, there is no doubt that RDNA 4 will be the better choice for most people. However, with NVIDIA's undeniable lead in ray tracing, paired with DLSS 4, will presumably make things more complicated than ever before. It is unclear what AMD has up its sleeve with FSR 4. Recent rumors do point at pretty good compatibility, but as with all rumors, be sure to accept any pre-release whispers with a grain of salt.
Source: MLID via YouTube
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90 Comments on AMD Radeon 9070 XT Rumored to Outpace RTX 5070 Ti by Almost 15%

#1
Marsil
I hope it doesn't outpace it in price too!
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#2
The Norwegian Drone Pilot
Doesn't help AMD anything at all on having 15% more performance here when AMD lacks all of the great features the NVIDIA GPU have. I would gladly have 10-15% lower performance in trade for the awesome features the NVIDIA GPUs comes with.

The awesome feature set is one of the reasons why NVIDIA sells like hot cakes.
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#3
Dristun
$699 it is, then? And after that all depends on AIB markups. If they're just as bad for 70ti as they are for 80 on Nvidia's side but AMD's are more normal in the traditional $50-100 range, they might have a competitor, though not a world-beater "consumer jackpot!" deal.
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#4
ZoneDymo
and that is suppose to be exciting ?
The Norwegian Drone PilotDoesn't help AMD anything at all on having 15% more performance here when AMD lacks all of the great features the NVIDIA GPU have. I would gladly have 10-15% lower performance in trade for the awesome features the NVIDIA GPUs comes with.

The awesome feature set is one of the reasons why NVIDIA sells like hot cakes.
This comment is so over the top, it reads like sarcasm
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#5
TPUnique
Dristun$699 it is, then? And after that all depends on AIB markups. If they're just as bad for 70ti as they are for 80 on Nvidia's side but AMD's are more normal in the traditional $50 range, they might have a competitor, though not a world-beater "consumer jackpot!" deal.
They must be thinking hard about how close to nVidia they're going to price these cards.

"Yeah we've got pretty nice mid-rangers which punch above their weight, and we told the public that were were after a nice price/perf ratio... BUT have you seen how poorly the 5080 is doing ? And the fuckers are charging 1000$ for that ! And suckers are sleeping in tents to get these !!! We can't relinquish too much margin, can we ?"
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#6
windwhirl
... I'm just thinking that 500 is the top price people would consider "good" for the 9070XT, at least assuming prices don't go to hell due to tariffs and crap
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#7
ThomasK
The Norwegian Drone PilotDoesn't help AMD anything at all on having 15% more performance here when AMD lacks all of the great features the NVIDIA GPU have. I would gladly have 10-15% lower performance in trade for the awesome features the NVIDIA GPUs comes with.

The awesome feature set is one of the reasons why NVIDIA sells like hot cakes.
Please tell me in how many titles are you enabling ray tracing with your 3060 Ti? Do you have to enable DLSS as well to use it?

Multi fake frame generation is already considered a feature in your nvidia fanboy booklet?
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#8
GodisanAtheist
This is why you always show up to fight at the high end.

Looks like AMD solved a lot of the issues that were plaguing RDNA3 and now their 64CU 9070XT is matching their 96CU 7900XTX (allegedly, ofc).

If only they had a 96CU RDNA4 die ready to go, they'd be nipping at the 5090's heels with a potentially much smaller die.
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#9
Hiner101
Great news for AMD's 9070 and 9070XT! It seems that MLID's claims are being confirmed by other rumors, so it looks like we’re onto something significant this time. The raster performance is top-notch (and it was already impressive—just look at the XTX's performance in the benchmarks released alongside the 5090 and 5080). The XTX is a fantastic card in raster, as anyone who owns one can attest. Finally, ray tracing is now nearly on par with NVIDIA for the same generation, thanks to the development for the PS5 Pro that has been integrated into RDNA4.
And all of this achieved with just 4096 cores and GDDR6. This means enhancing an architecture, not that nonsense of Blackwell.

And let’s talk about FSR4—its visual quality is outstanding, as showcased by reviewers at CES, and it’s incredibly easy to implement in games due to a modification from version 3.1, meaning many titles will support it right at launch and many more soon after. Additionally, it has been announced that everything technically possible with FSR4 will be implemented in previous RDNA generations as well.
This is, of course, for those interested in upscaling and frame generation. Personally, I always play at native resolution. Upscaling (or VSR) can be useful at most, but I find frame generation to be unnecessary, as it tends to activate when you don’t need it and not when you do (just look at the tests from Hardware Unboxed) and it make latency worse.

Let's eagerly awaiting the pricing, but I believe this time the mid-to-high range will be a tremendous success for AMD!
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#10
ks2
windwhirl... I'm just thinking that 500 is the top price people would consider "good" for the 9070XT, at least assuming prices don't go to hell due to tariffs and crap
9070xt would still be a good card for $549, same price as the 5070 with 30%+ more raster, similar if not better raytracing and more vram. (ofc with inferior fsr compared to dlss, and no cuda. )
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#11
Macro Device
GGforeveraccording to MLID
Their claims require a full wagon of salt. Can't take them seriously.

Also, who cares how it fares against 5070 Ti if we don't know the actual price and release date?
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#12
ks2
Macro DeviceTheir claims require a full wagon of salt. Can't take them seriously.

Also, who cares how it fares against 5070 Ti if we don't know the actual price and release date?
other leaks also shows the 9070xt is between 4070ti super and 4080 super(closer to the upper)
videocardz.com/newz/alleged-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-performance-in-cyberpunk-2077-and-black-myth-wukong-leaked
videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-3dmark-leak-3-0-ghz-330w-tbp-faster-than-rtx-4080-super-in-timespy-and-4070-ti-in-speed-way
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#13
Hereticbar
I swear if I didn't know better, I would think these rumors and leaks are trying to hurt AMD by raising expectations to unrealistic levels. Then when the actual performance comes nowhere close, they get to beat AMD down.

Wait maybe they are!
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#14
ZoneDymo
HereticbarI swear if I didn't know better, I would think these rumors and leaks are trying to hurt AMD by raising expectations to unrealistic levels. Then when the actual performance comes nowhere close, they get to beat AMD down.

Wait maybe they are!
that is pretty much par for the course for AMD, you see this every time, massive hype so it can only end up being disappointing.
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#15
TheinsanegamerN
If this is true, and the 9070xt is a midrange GPU, that just makes AMD's pull away from the high end more baffling, as it would imply rDNA4 is actually a decent improvement over rDNA3 but not given room to grow.
HereticbarI swear if I didn't know better, I would think these rumors and leaks are trying to hurt AMD by raising expectations to unrealistic levels. Then when the actual performance comes nowhere close, they get to beat AMD down.

Wait maybe they are!
Or people are trying to fill in the blanks since AMD isnt bothering to do so.
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#16
Krit
Macro DeviceAlso, who cares how it fares against 5070 Ti if we don't know the actual price and release date?
It's around ~20% faster than the RTX 4070 Ti @749$ if RX 9070 XT manages to produce ~15% more performance for 13-20% less money it's obviously a win, win situation. But that's still a very big if.

Frank Azor already said that erlier rumored benchmarks are not correct aka RX 9070 XT is not at the RX 7900 GRE level also he said this.
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#17
wNotyarD
TheinsanegamerNIf this is true, and the 9070xt is a midrange GPU, that just makes AMD's pull away from the high end more baffling, as it would imply rDNA4 is actually a decent improvement over rDNA3 but not given room to grow.

Or people are trying to fill in the blanks since AMD isnt bothering to do so.
For once, I actually think it's better for AMD to keep shut. Remember the numbers they were advertising for the 7900 XT and XTX and got nowhere close?
Yep, that did no good at all.

Just let the cards do the talking themselves when they release.
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#18
dia6olo
The Norwegian Drone PilotDoesn't help AMD anything at all on having 15% more performance here when AMD lacks all of the great features the NVIDIA GPU have. I would gladly have 10-15% lower performance in trade for the awesome features the NVIDIA GPUs comes with.

The awesome feature set is one of the reasons why NVIDIA sells like hot cakes.
It does to some of us, some of us see a a lot of NVIDIA's features (me personally) most of them as nothing more than gimmicks. While they may prove useful sometime in the future they are gimmicks to me currently and for the foreseeable future.

I can't speak for others but my next purchase will be based on something that offers a reasonable level of performance while not costing stupid money.
My performance measurement will be based on real frames only and how much those real frames cost, based on that and the rumors, it looks like I'll by buying the 9070 XT...
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#19
Hereticbar
TheinsanegamerNIf this is true, and the 9070xt is a midrange GPU, that just makes AMD's pull away from the high end more baffling, as it would imply rDNA4 is actually a decent improvement over rDNA3 but not given room to grow.
It wouldn't be the first time they misjudged the market and the competition.
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#20
k0vasz
ThomasKPlease tell me in how many titles are you enabling ray tracing with your 3060 Ti? Do you have to enable DLSS as well to use it?

Multi fake frame generation is already considered a feature in your nvidia fanboy booklet?
3060ti user here: on 1080p, ray-tracing + DLSS runs fine (=60fps) in every title so far. sure, the settings for RT and/or DLSS might need to be set to medium/balanced in some cases, but it's absolutely usable
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#21
Denver
Wow. This is very close to the 5080... With AIBs pushing a 330W TDP, it'd comes even closer; yet people still insist it should be priced at $500? Meanwhile, Nvidia is selling its overpriced hardware for $1,200–$1,400 with only an 8–10% performance gain. For real, Even at $600, the 9070XT would sell exceptionally well and be a strong win in the current market.

What’s puzzling is that if they can extract this much performance from a die smaller than 400mm², why not replicate the RDNA3 MCM approach and produce a 500–600mm² GCD + Six MCDs to compete with the 5090? TDP? Nvidia is already pushing the game to 600w so who cares?
Perhaps Nvidia has secured all the available GDDR7 stock, or AMD sees greater profitability in allocating its TSMC capacity to Instinct accelerators (most likely).
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#22
3valatzy
GodisanAtheistThis is why you always show up to fight at the high end.

Looks like AMD solved a lot of the issues that were plaguing RDNA3 and now their 64CU 9070XT is matching their 96CU 7900XTX (allegedly, ofc).

If only they had a 96CU RDNA4 die ready to go, they'd be nipping at the 5090's heels with a potentially much smaller die.
Question 1: How? It will have extremely low memory bandwidth - leaks of GPU-Z show mediocre 644 GB/s. For a comparison, the RTX 5090 is able to reach 2176 GB/s !

Question 2: How with only 16 GB ? If the VRAM doesn't matter, then why do they put so much, and instead don't limit the cards to 10 GB (as of RTX 3080) ?

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#23
Roph
Sad to see TPU posting made up MLID fanfiction
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#24
Macro Device
ks2the 9070xt is between 4070ti super and 4080 super(closer to the upper)
These are, still, speculations. Which means actual performance might be vastly different. Might be a glorified 7800 XT, or a 7900 XTX murderer, who knows.

And, okay, they never planned on pricing it at 900 USD so what's the plan? Is there a plan?

Oh, and most importantly, it's crucial to strike at a proper time and the time was up ages ago. With this "slightly worse and slightly cheaper" approach AMD GPUs got outsold so obscenely I'm not sure it's not illegal to post these numbers. Was RDNA a game changer? Not really, it didn't offer anything you couldn't get already by buying a Pascal GPU, a 3 years older architecture. Was RDNA2 a game changer? Far from it. RDNA3, even less impressive despite new building approach.

They must include killer features. Must have included, rather. Now it's a "boy who cried, 'wolves!'" situation. No matter what they release the vast majority won't buy it because they already quote-unquote know AMD GPUs suck.
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#25
3valatzy
Macro DeviceThese are, still, speculations. Which means actual performance might be vastly different. Might be a glorified 7800 XT, or a 7900 XTX murderer, who knows.

And, okay, they never planned on pricing it at 900 USD so what's the plan? Is there a plan?

Oh, and most importantly, it's crucial to strike at a proper time and the time was up ages ago. With this "slightly worse and slightly cheaper" approach AMD GPUs got outsold so obscenely I'm not sure it's not illegal to post these numbers. Was RDNA a game changer? Not really, it didn't offer anything you couldn't get already by buying a Pascal GPU, a 3 years older architecture. Was RDNA2 a game changer? Far from it. RDNA3, even less impressive despite new building approach.

They must include killer features. Must have included, rather. Now it's a "boy who cried, 'wolves!'" situation. No matter what they release the vast majority won't buy it because they already quote-unquote know AMD GPUs suck.
AMD should have put the RX 7900 XT as a direct RX 6800 XT replacement - 650 bucks, instead they went green greedy goblin and charged 900$ :kookoo:
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