Thursday, January 30th 2025
AMD Radeon 9070 XT Rumored to Outpace RTX 5070 Ti by Almost 15%
It would be fair to say that the GeForce RTX 5080 has been quite disappointing, being roughly 16% faster in gaming than the RTX 4080 Super. Unsurprisingly, this gives AMD a lot of opportunity to offer excellent price-to-performance with its upcoming RDNA 4 GPUs, considering that the RTX 5070 and RTX 5070 Ti aren't really expected to pull off any miracles. According to a recent tidbit shared by the renowned leaker Moore's Law is Dead, the Radeon RX 9070 XT is expected to be around 3% faster than the RTX 4080, if AMD's internal performance goals are anything to go by. MLID also notes that RDNA 4's performance is improving by roughly around 1% each month, which makes it quite likely that the RDNA 4 cards will exceed the targets.
If it does turn out that way, the Radeon RX 9070 XT, according to MLID, should be roughly around 15% faster than its competitor from the Green Camp, the RTX 5070 Ti, and roughly match the RTX 4080 Super in gaming performance. The Radeon RX 9070, on the other hand, is expected to be around 12% faster than the RTX 5070. Of course, these performance improvements are limited to rasterization performance, and when ray tracing is brought to the scene, the performance improvements are expected to be substantially more modest, as per tradition. Citing our data for Cyberpunk 4K with RT, MLID stated that his sources indicate that the RX 9070 XT falls somewhere between the RTX 4070 Ti Super and RTX 3090 Ti, whereas the RX 9070 should likely trade blows with the RTX 4070 Super. Considering AMD's track record with ray tracing, this sure does sound quite enticing.
Of course, it will all boil down to pricing once the RDNA 4 cards hit the scene. If AMD does manage to undercut its competitors from NVIDIA by a reasonable margin, there is no doubt that RDNA 4 will be the better choice for most people. However, with NVIDIA's undeniable lead in ray tracing, paired with DLSS 4, will presumably make things more complicated than ever before. It is unclear what AMD has up its sleeve with FSR 4. Recent rumors do point at pretty good compatibility, but as with all rumors, be sure to accept any pre-release whispers with a grain of salt.
Source:
MLID via YouTube
If it does turn out that way, the Radeon RX 9070 XT, according to MLID, should be roughly around 15% faster than its competitor from the Green Camp, the RTX 5070 Ti, and roughly match the RTX 4080 Super in gaming performance. The Radeon RX 9070, on the other hand, is expected to be around 12% faster than the RTX 5070. Of course, these performance improvements are limited to rasterization performance, and when ray tracing is brought to the scene, the performance improvements are expected to be substantially more modest, as per tradition. Citing our data for Cyberpunk 4K with RT, MLID stated that his sources indicate that the RX 9070 XT falls somewhere between the RTX 4070 Ti Super and RTX 3090 Ti, whereas the RX 9070 should likely trade blows with the RTX 4070 Super. Considering AMD's track record with ray tracing, this sure does sound quite enticing.
74 Comments on AMD Radeon 9070 XT Rumored to Outpace RTX 5070 Ti by Almost 15%
Would you sell a wafer for ( say ) 200 DIY or 100 OEM for PC when you can sell the same to servers for 1000?
If this gen doesn't sell well ( it won't, there's far too much ingrained resistance to AMD ) I can see them dropping out of the
DGPU market altogether to concentrate on the server CPU/CPU/APU side where they can at least turn some profit.
Still, at least we now have Intel, right?
50% gap !
Realistically, the 9700 XT should be no faster than there:
Imagine releasing RDNA3 alongside some feature that makes DLSS and other upscalers irrelevant. Or maybe some feature that allows a stupid image quality improvement so the games look better at 1080p with AMD than they do at 1440p with NVIDIA. Or some ray tracing stuff that makes RT experience on AMD better than on anything else. Or literally anything you can only do on AMD GPUs and you wanna do it.
But alas.
RX 6600
RX 6600 XT
RX 6650 XT
RX 7600
RX 7600 XT
are all actually one and the same them thing.
From where your logic comes from blackwell (micropenis) uplift ?
Btw if a miracle happens and 9070 xt reaches 7900 xtx performance then....I want to believe!!!;)
— Doesn't the 7600XTX beat the Radeon VII ?
The obvious answer is that newer architectures tend to make better use of the available bandwidth.
Its setting up the playfield and when the gpu is finally released...then boom!
“AMD sucks! and “AMDoa “ fly all over the net.
its really tiresome.
Which again proves one thing - AMD is very poor and the only thing they do achieve is terribly misbalanced GPU configurations.
AMD could have done a few things from a 10,000ft level:
- Beefed up their CUs to have higher IPC. RDNA3's CU's essentially performed exactly like RDNA2 CUs, you only got more performance when you increased the number of CUs.
- Increased the boost clock (one of RDNA3's biggest missteps was missing clock targets)
- Tweaked or rebalanced infinity cache/L2 Cache to make-up for the loss of bandwidth.
Ultimately, the thing is Nvidia is able to get 4080/5080 performance out of a 380mm^2 256-bit piece of silicon on the N4 process, so (again, theoretically) there isn't a reason AMD cannot do the same (assuming N48 is in fact ~380mm^2).
*nvidia releases a bunch of turds
AMD: "Guess we are competing in the high end after all."
Comments close to trolling, complot theories, whishfull thinking and so on passing by, some close to creating myths.
Talking about myths, I'll just wait untill TPU's very own "MythBuster" the one and only mister W1zzard ;) had a go at these cards and publishes subtantiated results to see where they stand in the everchanging GPU playing field.
Then it will all come down on the (consumer) price and how that compares to the competition, as well as the quality of software (drivers/features) it is using.
All the tactical bright minds in the red, green and even blue team are well aware of that.
:lovetpu: