Thursday, January 30th 2025

AMD Radeon 9070 XT Rumored to Outpace RTX 5070 Ti by Almost 15%
It would be fair to say that the GeForce RTX 5080 has been quite disappointing, being roughly 16% faster in gaming than the RTX 4080 Super. Unsurprisingly, this gives AMD a lot of opportunity to offer excellent price-to-performance with its upcoming RDNA 4 GPUs, considering that the RTX 5070 and RTX 5070 Ti aren't really expected to pull off any miracles. According to a recent tidbit shared by the renowned leaker Moore's Law is Dead, the Radeon RX 9070 XT is expected to be around 3% faster than the RTX 4080, if AMD's internal performance goals are anything to go by. MLID also notes that RDNA 4's performance is improving by roughly around 1% each month, which makes it quite likely that the RDNA 4 cards will exceed the targets.
If it does turn out that way, the Radeon RX 9070 XT, according to MLID, should be roughly around 15% faster than its competitor from the Green Camp, the RTX 5070 Ti, and roughly match the RTX 4080 Super in gaming performance. The Radeon RX 9070, on the other hand, is expected to be around 12% faster than the RTX 5070. Of course, these performance improvements are limited to rasterization performance, and when ray tracing is brought to the scene, the performance improvements are expected to be substantially more modest, as per tradition. Citing our data for Cyberpunk 4K with RT, MLID stated that his sources indicate that the RX 9070 XT falls somewhere between the RTX 4070 Ti Super and RTX 3090 Ti, whereas the RX 9070 should likely trade blows with the RTX 4070 Super. Considering AMD's track record with ray tracing, this sure does sound quite enticing.Of course, it will all boil down to pricing once the RDNA 4 cards hit the scene. If AMD does manage to undercut its competitors from NVIDIA by a reasonable margin, there is no doubt that RDNA 4 will be the better choice for most people. However, with NVIDIA's undeniable lead in ray tracing, paired with DLSS 4, will presumably make things more complicated than ever before. It is unclear what AMD has up its sleeve with FSR 4. Recent rumors do point at pretty good compatibility, but as with all rumors, be sure to accept any pre-release whispers with a grain of salt.
Source:
MLID via YouTube
If it does turn out that way, the Radeon RX 9070 XT, according to MLID, should be roughly around 15% faster than its competitor from the Green Camp, the RTX 5070 Ti, and roughly match the RTX 4080 Super in gaming performance. The Radeon RX 9070, on the other hand, is expected to be around 12% faster than the RTX 5070. Of course, these performance improvements are limited to rasterization performance, and when ray tracing is brought to the scene, the performance improvements are expected to be substantially more modest, as per tradition. Citing our data for Cyberpunk 4K with RT, MLID stated that his sources indicate that the RX 9070 XT falls somewhere between the RTX 4070 Ti Super and RTX 3090 Ti, whereas the RX 9070 should likely trade blows with the RTX 4070 Super. Considering AMD's track record with ray tracing, this sure does sound quite enticing.Of course, it will all boil down to pricing once the RDNA 4 cards hit the scene. If AMD does manage to undercut its competitors from NVIDIA by a reasonable margin, there is no doubt that RDNA 4 will be the better choice for most people. However, with NVIDIA's undeniable lead in ray tracing, paired with DLSS 4, will presumably make things more complicated than ever before. It is unclear what AMD has up its sleeve with FSR 4. Recent rumors do point at pretty good compatibility, but as with all rumors, be sure to accept any pre-release whispers with a grain of salt.
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AMD to price its dGPUs at 15-20% cheaper.
RTX 5070 = $549 - As reported by Nvidia via CES
RX 9070 = $449
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RTX 5070Ti = $749 - As reported by Nvidia vis CES
RX 9070XT = $599
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RTX 5080 = $999
RX 9080XT = $899 - Rumored to come 6 months after the 9070XT is officially launched & available. :D
us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/572.16/572.16-win11-win10-release-notes.pdf
Perhaps the reason every nvidia driver release doesnt contain a list about known issues is because.....they dont typically ship with longstanding known issues? Oh man, now that you said it MLID is gonna make 3 videos about RX 9080 confirmed launching faster then 4090 videos.
Weird you mention it, I was thinking of BH-5 the other day for some reason. I had a set of CH-5 I killed trying to reach (voltage, torture) general BH-5 speeds on my t-bred B. The replacement BH-5 was 2-2-2-4 stuff so I suppose it was worth it and those B rev chips, if you got the good ones, were a blast to overclock. And yes, the mobile ones were the good ones. And then came the core unlocking days. I think i had a x3>x4 unlocked full tilt and the funny thing is the fused off core was better than the rest.
To the topic at hand, I'm actually surprised AMD decided to abandon the x80 class this round. It would've been pretty easy for them to reach performance parity in that class with a slightly bigger die on a wider bus, somewhat akin to a monolithic 7900xtx on rdna4 I suppose. It would even be a better match than last round because RT performance differential would be less. 9070XT looks like a 7800XT on RDNA4 with the relatively bigger die taken up by more dark silicon, RT and RDNA4 enhancements. And it's wild that's only what it took for them to straddle the 70/80 class, supposedly. Milk the last arch, AMD, before you, erm, abandon the market? No bud. Since we exactly know the performance, you should know it's anything over $300 (HD 4870) and not only RDNA but AMD is DOA. Too many abbreviations are hurting my brain. Nvidia is better.
Either AMD finally faces the music and come to terms that their software, RT and AI features are much worst and price accordingly or they are just wasting their own money and market share.
Come on. In games where it's only a few shadows it's a gimmick. In games where it's a proper implementation or PT it looks awesome. The hardware will catch up eventually.
AMD is going through the transition from RDNA to UDNA, that's all. They placed most of its Radeon Group resources onto UDNA. And choose to stuck to the mid range market with its final RDNA4 run. That was a good decision from the company.
As for AA & AF I play with those on max.
But to be fair game companies seem to love that crap, there were older techs pushed by amd/nvidia that the devs just didn't care and let them die
Personally i think it just made game devs lazier, no more optimisation, we can just use upscaling, fake frames so why bother, i blame the consoles for starting this trend when they had shit hardware and had to make magic tricks to run the games