Thursday, January 30th 2025
AMD Radeon 9070 XT Rumored to Outpace RTX 5070 Ti by Almost 15%
It would be fair to say that the GeForce RTX 5080 has been quite disappointing, being roughly 16% faster in gaming than the RTX 4080 Super. Unsurprisingly, this gives AMD a lot of opportunity to offer excellent price-to-performance with its upcoming RDNA 4 GPUs, considering that the RTX 5070 and RTX 5070 Ti aren't really expected to pull off any miracles. According to a recent tidbit shared by the renowned leaker Moore's Law is Dead, the Radeon RX 9070 XT is expected to be around 3% faster than the RTX 4080, if AMD's internal performance goals are anything to go by. MLID also notes that RDNA 4's performance is improving by roughly around 1% each month, which makes it quite likely that the RDNA 4 cards will exceed the targets.
If it does turn out that way, the Radeon RX 9070 XT, according to MLID, should be roughly around 15% faster than its competitor from the Green Camp, the RTX 5070 Ti, and roughly match the RTX 4080 Super in gaming performance. The Radeon RX 9070, on the other hand, is expected to be around 12% faster than the RTX 5070. Of course, these performance improvements are limited to rasterization performance, and when ray tracing is brought to the scene, the performance improvements are expected to be substantially more modest, as per tradition. Citing our data for Cyberpunk 4K with RT, MLID stated that his sources indicate that the RX 9070 XT falls somewhere between the RTX 4070 Ti Super and RTX 3090 Ti, whereas the RX 9070 should likely trade blows with the RTX 4070 Super. Considering AMD's track record with ray tracing, this sure does sound quite enticing.
Of course, it will all boil down to pricing once the RDNA 4 cards hit the scene. If AMD does manage to undercut its competitors from NVIDIA by a reasonable margin, there is no doubt that RDNA 4 will be the better choice for most people. However, with NVIDIA's undeniable lead in ray tracing, paired with DLSS 4, will presumably make things more complicated than ever before. It is unclear what AMD has up its sleeve with FSR 4. Recent rumors do point at pretty good compatibility, but as with all rumors, be sure to accept any pre-release whispers with a grain of salt.
Source:
MLID via YouTube
If it does turn out that way, the Radeon RX 9070 XT, according to MLID, should be roughly around 15% faster than its competitor from the Green Camp, the RTX 5070 Ti, and roughly match the RTX 4080 Super in gaming performance. The Radeon RX 9070, on the other hand, is expected to be around 12% faster than the RTX 5070. Of course, these performance improvements are limited to rasterization performance, and when ray tracing is brought to the scene, the performance improvements are expected to be substantially more modest, as per tradition. Citing our data for Cyberpunk 4K with RT, MLID stated that his sources indicate that the RX 9070 XT falls somewhere between the RTX 4070 Ti Super and RTX 3090 Ti, whereas the RX 9070 should likely trade blows with the RTX 4070 Super. Considering AMD's track record with ray tracing, this sure does sound quite enticing.
304 Comments on AMD Radeon 9070 XT Rumored to Outpace RTX 5070 Ti by Almost 15%
I suppose we could say "isn't that the point of technology". I suppose we could also mention the "law of instrument"...
we all know optimising or bug fixing is a thing of the past, as soon as the game runs, ship it
Big fan of how Id mentioned building off stable code builds back in the day. I'm not sure what the coding landscape looks like now regarding efficiency and bugs? Perhaps a.i. can reduce things like technical debt?!
I find the concept of the skill gap and higher demands on information literacy an interesting factor
phys.org/news/2025-01-ai-fabricated-junk-science-google.html
Sure some companies don't have the time or money to do that, but you also don't need a map of the size of the world for every game, Starfield didn't need to be that big, etc... there is no focus on games anymore, they want to do everything and sell to everyone with a pulse.
Also money is money, but Ubisoft just burn 200M on that pirate thing, Sony burned 200M on Concord, etc... imagine that money and coders polishing other games.
i'm loyal to no one, but i also don't want a subpar product for about the same price
Some people still don't realize a fact that DLSS/XeSS/FSR and other shit like FG does indeed spoil developers. The more they use such technologies, the less they optimize games.
We may come to a situation (give it few years) when devs (with smile on their face) will be heartly serving us 60fps even with all performance/framerate workarounds already in place (turned on). Because you know, 60fps is actually enough and you know we're hitting the silicon wall here, not enough performance on the table, there's no other way you know, we did our best to get the game to you asap and that is fuckin important you know. Meanwhile the price of this game is just $300 for ultimate microtransaction edition ... Look how many things we're doing for you, just buy it already you stupid gamer and stop asking.
Besides, it's not about breathing room. Nvidia is after profits, not more market share. And as long as people buy their cards no matter what, they don't have to lower prices.
And don't start on AMD software (again). There is nothing wrong with it (not any more as there is with Nvidia software).
Edit: By the way, even the 5080 would have been a fine card for a good $200 lower.
i already tried to tell you a million times, the performance gen on gen it's only relevant to the idiots that buy a card every gen or clueless influencers, for me on 3000 gen, or people on 2000 the problem is price, i couldn't give a rats arse about gen on gen. I'm sure this will go straight over your head just like the other times
This simplification influencers created is absurd and distorts any serious discussion.