Friday, July 7th 2017
Steam Survey Update: It's All About Quad-cores, NVIDIA and Windows 10
An update to the Steam survey results is always worth noting, especially with the added, tremendous growth Valve's online store service has seen recently. And it seems that in the Steam gaming world at least, quad-core CPUs, NVIDIA graphics cards, and Windows 10 reign supreme.
Windows 10 64-bit is the most used operating system, with 50.33% of the survey. That the second most used Windows OS is the steady, hallmark Windows 7 shouldn't come as a surprise, though it does have just 32.05% of the market now. OS X has a measly 2.95% of the grand total, while Linux comes in at an even lower 0.72%. While AMD processor submits may have increased in other software, it seems that at least in Steam, those numbers aren't reflected, since AMD's processor market share in the survey has decreased from 21.89% in February to just 19.01% as of June, even though the company's Ryzen line of CPUs has been selling like hotcakes. Quad-core CPUs are the most used at time of the survey, at 52.06%, while the next highest percentage is still the dual-core CPU, with 42.23%.On the graphics cards side of the equation though, AMD seems to be in a pretty considerable losing streak when it comes to the Steam hardware survey. The red company has fallen from a 26.2% market share in January 2016 to a much lower 20.5% in June 2017; it seems Polaris' price-point and lower cost of entry for FreeSync did little to convince users to migrate to the red team. Perhaps the lack of a halo product doomed AMD from the start?There are a total of 19 NVIDIA video cards taking up the top spots in the Steam hardware survey before the first AMD video card series - the HD 7700 - makes an appearance with its measly 1.21% market share. Of the top 19 NVIDIA graphics cards, the GTX 1060 takes the top spot, with 6.29% market. Other 1000 series graphics cards from NVIDIA in the top 19 spots include the GTX 1070 (5th place with 3.60%), the GTX 1050 Ti (6th, 2.80%), the GTX 1050 (13th place, 1.74%) and the GTX 1080 (14th, 1.73%).
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Steam Hardware Survey
Windows 10 64-bit is the most used operating system, with 50.33% of the survey. That the second most used Windows OS is the steady, hallmark Windows 7 shouldn't come as a surprise, though it does have just 32.05% of the market now. OS X has a measly 2.95% of the grand total, while Linux comes in at an even lower 0.72%. While AMD processor submits may have increased in other software, it seems that at least in Steam, those numbers aren't reflected, since AMD's processor market share in the survey has decreased from 21.89% in February to just 19.01% as of June, even though the company's Ryzen line of CPUs has been selling like hotcakes. Quad-core CPUs are the most used at time of the survey, at 52.06%, while the next highest percentage is still the dual-core CPU, with 42.23%.On the graphics cards side of the equation though, AMD seems to be in a pretty considerable losing streak when it comes to the Steam hardware survey. The red company has fallen from a 26.2% market share in January 2016 to a much lower 20.5% in June 2017; it seems Polaris' price-point and lower cost of entry for FreeSync did little to convince users to migrate to the red team. Perhaps the lack of a halo product doomed AMD from the start?There are a total of 19 NVIDIA video cards taking up the top spots in the Steam hardware survey before the first AMD video card series - the HD 7700 - makes an appearance with its measly 1.21% market share. Of the top 19 NVIDIA graphics cards, the GTX 1060 takes the top spot, with 6.29% market. Other 1000 series graphics cards from NVIDIA in the top 19 spots include the GTX 1070 (5th place with 3.60%), the GTX 1050 Ti (6th, 2.80%), the GTX 1050 (13th place, 1.74%) and the GTX 1080 (14th, 1.73%).
90 Comments on Steam Survey Update: It's All About Quad-cores, NVIDIA and Windows 10
If the latter is true, you should in fact be glad that this game can use 6 out of 8 cores. :)
APU's are coming! and this is what will cover the cheap side of the market. Where from? pretty much every online store in Aus and ebay show pretty much nothing or sold out or out of stock and if there is any in stock then why do you think there so expensive? because there in HIGH demand, prices go up. Nvidia is the same, the prices of 1060's have gone up over here also. Its all about the mining, and the high demand for GPU's, nothing more. When the mining boom crashes and it will watch the prices of these GPU's plummet!
I'm just saying that CPUs currently offered by AMD are at least twice as expensive as what they were selling before Zen launch.
So if they were selling just as many CPUs as before, the consumer segment revenue should be up 2 times at least (and around +50% overall).
The figures we've seen after Q1 (month of Ryzen sales - including large preorders) are nowhere near this.
In 2 weeks the Q2 figures will be out. We'll see...
Remember that for the past few years a lot of AMD customers were those looking for a cheap system (including a ~$100 CPU and cheap APUs). Sure, AMD took over some market share in the mid-high-end, but they're also sacrificing some of the low-end. Unlikely. They used to have few APU variants under $150, but the cheapest 4-core Zen APU will have to be more expensive than a 4-core Ryzen (R5 1400 is $170).
Out of 8 cores on consoles, 2 were reserved by OS (now down to 1).
Blizzard has developed with consoles in mind. What is "actually not the case at all", oh enlightened one Oh, Blizzard game RUNS on older hardware (I run Starcraft 2 on ATI Mobility 54xx series), news at 6pm!
Do you understand this topic? It's not about out opinion whether Ryzen is worth the money. If they're selling a lot more, why isn't this visible in the Q1 financial statement? It already covered first month of Ryzen sales (and the massive preorder).
It would be great if we had access to proper sale data. One of few largest online stores in Poland shows how many people bought an item. And it looks like this:
All Ryzen 7 variants combined: 396
All 7700 variants combined: 1946.
Remember Ryzen 7 represents majority of Ryzen sales. Intel 7700 (including K and T) is not even the most popular Intel CPU in online retail stores. And of course such stores are just a small portion of what Intel sells overall, while for AMD they still represent vast majority of distribution.
Quite a lot of fairly naive people tend to think that, with a very decent Ryzen offering, AMD suddenly jumped from 15 to 50% market share.
If they retain the 15%, the high price point of Ryzen will more than double their revenue (I'm not so sure about the profit).
But if it turns out that revenue in consumer sector is up by just 20-30%, it'll mean almost half of unit sales gone. Ryzen 5 1400 costs $160 while theearly leak mentioned $175(calling it Ryzen 5 1300).
If by this analogy Ryzen 3 1200 (the cheapest Ryzen planned!) will cost $120, it'll still be more expensive than AMD's Bulldozer bestsellers at the end of 2016.
And APUs will be even more expensive.
Also, we're still discussing $120+ CPUs, i.e. the segment Intel covers with Core series. This is NOT low end. Low-end CPUs are under $100 - like Pentiums and still available AMD FX. AMD decided to (at least for now) totally ignore this part of the market.
We already see the first result: Intel is rumored to limit the production of best selling Kaby Lake Pentium's and make people buy i3 instead. I don't know which part of the post this refers to.
The assumption that an APU will be more expensive than the IGP-less CPU with similar parameters doesn't really need a proof, does it?
And as for the sub-$150 APUs, here's one:
www.amazon.com/dp/B01BF377W4/?tag=tec06d-20
You can google more yourself.
www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amds-ryzen-launch-processors-sold-out-at-major-retailers.231197/
You just got burned bro!
Stop putting miss leading BS on this forum please and start actually doing some research before posting your crystal ball crap, its honestly making you look really stupid.
This is not the first time we're trying to convince @medi01 that software manufacturers are not limiting thread utilization. It's the other way around: they're forcing programs to use more CPU potential.
And btw: 20 years ago we only had a single thread in home PCs, so how it is relevant to this discussion? And to your information: I was already after my "hello world" C++ endeavour. So if you want to discuss computing, you know where to find me. Just try to use some actual arguments, not just offend me (you're pretty inept at that as well).
You got court with your hand in the cookie jar (Your crystal ball), you got proven wrong, thats it, move on!