Thursday, August 4th 2022

Intel Meteor Lake Reportedly Delayed Until End of 2023, Will Have Knock-On Effects for TSMC

Based on a report by TrendForce, Intel has yet again had to push back its upcoming Meteor Lake CPUs and it now appears that Intel will only be launching Meteor Lake towards the end of 2023. It's unclear why there has been yet another delay, but Intel is said to have cancelled most of its orders with TSMC for the 3 nm tGPU that Intel will have made at TSMC, for 2023. The knock-on effect of this, is that TSMC is said to be slowing down its production line expansion towards 3 nm, as the company is now unsure if it'll be able to fill its order books for all of 2023. TSMC's main customer for the 3 nm node is still going to be Apple, but with the loss of what is likely to be around six months worth of production from Intel, TSMC is said to be considering cutting its CapEx for 2023.

TSMC's other customers, such as AMD, MediaTek and Qualcomm aren't planning on moving to 3 nm until 2024, so unless there's a change in plans from either of these companies, or increased demand from Apple, TSMC is said to hit the brakes when it comes to starting up new, cutting edge production lines next year. TSMC is also likely to see reduced revenues during 2023 due to Intel's change of plans, although it's too early to make any assumptions. TrendForce also suggests that Intel might still use TSMC's 3 nm node as a backup plan, if Intel would fail to execute on moving to the Intel 4 process, but considering how complex it is to move a design between different foundry processes, this seems unlikely.
Source: TrendForce
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55 Comments on Intel Meteor Lake Reportedly Delayed Until End of 2023, Will Have Knock-On Effects for TSMC

#1
phanbuey
The intel struggle bus is real
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#3
oxrufiioxo
phanbueyThe intel struggle bus is real
Defiantly worried about intel hitting their launch targets... Even if they have very competitive products it won't matter if they are 6-12 months late.
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#6
DeathtoGnomes
Intel needed this, to relax and fix that which is broken with it.
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#7
ThrashZone
oxrufiioxoTrying to be a little more optimistic :laugh:
Hi,
Hard to believe intel would stop releasing lakes just like that
What will they make money on = not gpu's :laugh:
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#8
TheLostSwede
News Editor
ThrashZoneHi,
Hard to believe intel would stop releasing lakes just like that
What will they make money on = not gpu's :laugh:
I'm sure we'll get an interim product for 2023, whatever it may be.
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#9
Wirko
TheLostSwedeI'm sure we'll get an interim product for 2023, whatever it may be.
Then again, one chip per year and one socket every two years should be enough, right?
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#10
ThrashZone
TheLostSwedeI'm sure we'll get an interim product for 2023, whatever it may be.
Hi,
Maybe another pigeon poop line up :cool:
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#11
TheLostSwede
News Editor
WirkoThen again, one chip per year and one socket every two years should be enough, right?
But if Raptor Lake launches this year and production of Meteor Lake only kicks off at the end of 2023, what does Intel launch in 2023?
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#12
ThrashZone
Hi,
They can always retroll HEDT users if they get bored :laugh:
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#13
Niceumemu
Spelling error in the article:
Hit the brakes, not "hit the breaks"
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#14
Chaitanya
More worried about actions of PLA right now causing more delays for all launches than Intel's struggles.
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#15
bonehead123
WOW, I'm soooooooo surprised.....

Said absolutely N.O.B.O.D.Y.... :D

Definitely moving to team red when Ryzen 7xxx becomes available...
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#16
Steevo
China getting ready to invade and Intel is pulling out? Sounds like a good move, AMD may be left high and dry with no good foundry to use while war is in the region. Intel meanwhile will dump some of its own money and US tax money into building a foundry in the US to minimize production interruptions
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#17
ThrashZone
bonehead123WOW, I'm soooooooo surprised.....

Said absolutely N.O.B.O.D.Y.... :D

Definitely moving to team red when Ryzen 7xxx becomes available...
Hi,
Yeah amd is going to be sick awesome :D
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#18
ThomasK
DeathtoGnomesIntel needed this, to relax and fix that which is broken with it.
True, just give 'em a couple of years for them to fix it.
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#19
ThrashZone
Hi,
Yeah guess redesigning to add that awesome 3d cache amd came up with is kicking intel's ass :cool:
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#20
TheLostSwede
News Editor
NiceumemuSpelling error in the article:
Hit the brakes, not "hit the breaks"
Ta, fixed.
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#21
ppn
Well just let Nvidia or AMD borrow the N3 node then. What's the problem. We need real GPus that can actually push past 80fps, not these broken integrated GPU tiles worth of wasted sand shaped into 96-192 Execution units, when 128 units in A380 is 7200M transistors, same as GTX 1080, but performs like GTX 780, Just go back to the drawing board.
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#22
john_
There are huge problems at Intel.

Manufacturing still recovering (with a question mark).
Sapphire Rapids delays because of a huge list of bugs.
ARC a disaster because of probably hardware and software problems.
Now a delay on a future product that was going to be build by TSMC.

Are coffee shops in Intel's buildings at least running properly?
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#23
HenrySomeone
TheLostSwedeBut if Raptor Lake launches this year and production of Meteor Lake only kicks off at the end of 2023, what does Intel launch in 2023?
What did AMD launch in 2021?
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#24
Wirko
TheLostSwedeBut if Raptor Lake launches this year and production of Meteor Lake only kicks off at the end of 2023, what does Intel launch in 2023?
Well, yeah, an interim product as you say. Non-K parts, or mobile chips, or another "i7-4790".
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#25
HenrySomeone
bonehead123Definitely moving to team red when Ryzen 7xxx becomes available...
Why would you move to an inferior cpu? Even Alder Lake will still have the upper hand in single thread (and that's according to AMD's own predictions of Zen4's uplift) and Raptor Lake will be better in...probably everything (maybe, just maaaybe 7950x will be about on par with 13900k in multi thread).
The only "argument" left is therefore the age-old AMD trope of better socket longevity. But the last time around it took nearly 5 years until you could get similar performance (5600x on x370) to what was available with Intel right away (8700k) and that's if you were lucky with motherboard support. I don't know about you, but I want my performance now, not in some uncertain, indeterminable time in the future... :rolleyes:
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