Tuesday, April 4th 2023

China Could Retaliate to U.S. Ban on YMTC by Banning Micron Technology

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The Chinese Government could retaliate to the U.S. ban on YMTC NAND flash memory products by banning American memory maker Micron Technology. This comes as the country initiated a "cybersecurity review" of Micron products to check if they conform to China's network security Laws. These are essentially the same grounds on which the US-FCC banned YMTC, forcing large customers like Apple to cancel orders of YMTC NAND flash products, derailing the company's growth. YMTC's 3D NAND flash products and their development roadmaps can be considered "contemporary," against those of Micron, Kioxia, SK hynix, and Samsung. If banned, China would force Chinese companies, such as Lenovo, HMD International, etc., to remove Micron from their qualified vendor lists.
Sources: Investing, ElChapuzasInfomatico

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18 Comments on China Could Retaliate to U.S. Ban on YMTC by Banning Micron Technology

#1
watzupken
The start of tit for tat. I guess China may also start imposing sales ban of rare earth to US entities. I feel that sanctions by US will be self destructive.
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#2
Chaitanya
watzupkenThe start of tit for tat. I guess China may also start imposing sales ban of rare earth to US entities. I feel that sanctions by US will be self destructive.
Just look at G7 and Russia sanctions everything non-essential goods have been "sanctioned" while G7 is openly importing fuel(nuclear and fossil), fertilizers, metals, etc... from Russia. Even Japan has started oil imports from Russia. Sanctions are a farce at best. China can choke west by cutting supply of a lot raw material needed for semi-conductor manufacturing.
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#3
R0H1T
watzupkenThe start of tit for tat. I guess China may also start imposing sales ban of rare earth to US entities. I feel that sanctions by US will be self destructive.
You could say the same about China, if they blanket ban US entities their whole export driven economy goes for a tailspin! The real issue here is one country wants the biggest (share of) profits for itself while the other thinks it's their birthright. In the end really the trillion dollar corporations are still laughing their way to the bank, though you could argue CCP is the next biggest beneficiary :shadedshu:
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#4
Jism
ChaitanyaJust look at G7 and Russia sanctions everything non-essential goods have been "sanctioned" while G7 is openly importing fuel(nuclear and fossil), fertilizers, metals, etc... from Russia. Even Japan has started oil imports from Russia. Sanctions are a farce at best. China can choke west by cutting supply of a lot raw material needed for semi-conductor manufacturing.
Not even we in the west do agree with the sanctions or restrictions imposed on RU. To be honest, this was is'nt ours. And it shoud'nt be. However it is leading here and there slowly towards a creaping all out EU/US/RU war. Your barking against a country with the largest pile of nuclear weapons. No need for all that.
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#5
Space Lynx
Astronaut
Jokes on China, I already bought all the entertainment, silicon-based devices, and storage I need for the next 10-15 years.

Damn, it feels good to be a gangsta :pimp:

Now, I just need to decide, do I upgrade to 7900 XTX before WW3 breaks out? Or do I just chill with 6800 XT and not care either way? Decisions decisions.
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#6
Dragokar
JismNot even we in the west do agree with the sanctions or restrictions imposed on RU. To be honest, this was is'nt ours. And it shoud'nt be. However it is leading here and there slowly towards a creaping all out EU/US/RU war. Your barking against a country with the largest pile of nuclear weapons. No need for all that.
I do agree on them. They are also not strong enough IMO. To many things and loopholes.....by the way, the attitude that this war is not yours does mit work out for the US, it never did in the past and will not in the future.

A country cant claim to be a global leader and If something happens is starting to withdraw.
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#7
Sipu
JismNot even we in the west do agree with the sanctions or restrictions imposed on RU. To be honest, this was is'nt ours. And it shoud'nt be. However it is leading here and there slowly towards a creaping all out EU/US/RU war. Your barking against a country with the largest pile of nuclear weapons. No need for all that.
People like you are the reason we are in this mess. I guess taiwan should be handed over too and why not hawaii and alaska as well? You are barking against countries with large pile of nuclear weapons. No need for all that.
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#8
Bomby569
Tech cold war. Everyone loses. A more divided world. This is beyond stupid. Humans just refuse to learn from past mistakes.
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#9
GunShot
Majority of the reasons that China is in this situation is because of their beliefs on how things should be... for them.

Remember, to play, you need to learn HOW to play first. So, if China dares to do anything, do China really believe the U.S. wouldn't respond back... again?

The U.S. wrote the playbook, folks... like it or not.
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#10
awesomesauce
that gonna be complicated for lenovo
one laptop for US and one for CHINA? same spec ;)
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#11
kapone32
I bought a Micron drive years ago. The drive stopped working. I tried to get warranty service with Micron and guess what no contact request return so China can keep them.
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#12
R-T-B
JismNot even we in the west do agree with the sanctions or restrictions imposed on RU. To be honest, this was is'nt ours. And it shoud'nt be. However it is leading here and there slowly towards a creaping all out EU/US/RU war. Your barking against a country with the largest pile of nuclear weapons. No need for all that.
Speak for yourself and not everyone in the west, please.
kapone32I bought a Micron drive years ago. The drive stopped working. I tried to get warranty service with Micron and guess what no contact request return so China can keep them.
China is trying to get rid of them, not keep them.
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#13
Ando
It is insane to believe that not wanting to get involved in a conflict that has nothing to do with you/your people = supporting one side.
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#14
Sabishii Hito
AndoIt is insane to believe that not wanting to get involved in a conflict that has nothing to do with you/your people = supporting one side.
People are so polarized these days they cannot wrap their minds around the concept of neutrality.
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#15
ValenOne
watzupkenThe start of tit for tat. I guess China may also start imposing sales ban of rare earth to US entities. I feel that sanctions by US will be self destructive.
PRC has an anti-foreign "Negative List of Market Access Restricted: Sector-wise items" protectionist policy.

www.china-briefing.com/news/china-2020-negative-list-market-access/

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For scope, from tradebarrierindex.org
Trade Barrier Index 2021 with a lower tariff score has fewer trade barriers.

Canada's tariff score is 2.58 (CPTPP, USMCA)
Peru's tariff score is 2.84 (CPTPP)
New Zealand's tariff score is 2.92 (CPTPP)
Australia's tariff score is 3.03 (CPTPP)
UK's tariff score is 3.94 (CPTPP)

Japan's tariff score is 4.05 (CPTPP)
US's tariff score is 4.54 (USMCA)

Germany's tariff score is 4.88 (EU)
EU's tariff score is 4.88

China's tariff score is 5.68 (BRICS)
Russia's tariff score is 6.16 (BRICS)
Brazil's tariff score is 7.07 (BRICS)
South Korea's tariff score is 7.35
India's tariff score is 8.18 (BRICS)
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#16
kondamin
Stop exporting alternative energy products and use the capacity to ween China off of fossil fuel which it needs to import.

that would cause quite a bit more of a reaction than some memory
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#17
n-ster
kapone32I bought a Micron drive years ago. The drive stopped working. I tried to get warranty service with Micron and guess what no contact request return so China can keep them.
Micron is generally well regarded, I've had good experiences with them, especially in terms of reliability
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#18
the54thvoid
Super Intoxicated Moderator
Too much effort to maintain sensible discussions. Locked.
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