OH BOY! FAKE NOT-ADDITIONAL-PERFORMANCE "FRAMES"! Gee, if I only had purchased an 8GB 3070 or 8GB 4060 Ti I too could not load certain games at 1440p with an overpriced 8GB GPU however I'll have to settle for games loading and working with my 16GB RX 6800.

This is great news for owners of RTX 40XX series cards ^^

I somehow always find it a funny, when they talk about powered by AI.

Right, they put mini terminators into the vgas, for they to do upscaling for us.

JAB CreationsOH BOY! FAKE NOT-ADDITIONAL-PERFORMANCE "FRAMES"!

You're very upset about an optional feature that you don't even have access to use lol. Also, all frames are fake so perhaps the best way to judge them is on IQ, input latency and performance, rather than repeating FAKE FRAMES ad-nauseum.

Don't like it, don't use it, simple. But people going around repeating the same "gotcha" catch phrase don't come across as intelligent.

Meanwhile the FSR3 crickets are chrping super loud today. At the rate AMD are going they might have it ready for RDNA4 late next year.

wolfYou're very upset about an optional feature that you don't even have access to use lol. Also, all frames are fake so perhaps the best way to judge them is on IQ, input latency and performance, rather than repeating FAKE FRAMES ad-nauseum.

Don't like it, don't use it, simple. But people going around repeating the same "gotcha" catch phrase don't come across as intelligent.

While I agree that their comment isn't the greatest presentation, I do kinda agree with the sentiment but mostly from the other side of the coin, the praising of the tech.

I find it so odd when a reviewer is "amazed" by the performance increase expressed in frames... I mean the tech literally just makes up an extra frame in between, so how are you impressed that the frames per second number is now higher?

I have nothing personally against the tech but I HATE software as a selling point, now if they would allow for dlss3 on older gen cards that would honestly show there is a required hardware component that those cards lack...but so far I'm not convinced

Minus InfinityMeanwhile the FSR3 crickets are chrping super loud today. At the rate AMD are going they might have it ready for RDNA4 late next year.

Much harder and more respectable to make a tech that works for more stuff then just your own, also wasn't it already stated it was going to be shown on some next big yearly tech show?

olymind1I somehow always find it a funny, when they talk about powered by AI.

Right, they put mini terminators into the vgas, for they to do upscaling for us.

Don't really get this comment, the story is that it's the ai that does the frame interpretation, though it seems something that can easily be done without ai

Why_MeThis is great news for owners of RTX 40XX series cards ^^

Now if only it was great news for 20XX and 30XX owners...
Also 8gb of vram will still get you into trouble..even on 1080p

wolf... people going around repeating the same "gotcha" catch phrase don't come across as intelligent.

That's what I was thinking when I read it too. :laugh:

wolfDon't like it, don't use it, simple. But people going around repeating the same "gotcha" catch phrase don't come across as intelligent.

Something like "dont like it, dont use it" is way out of line here. Put on your pink glasses and say 'that's the way it's meant to be played' but is it though? It is not about liking something and use it but you can't use it even if you wanted to since the card is starting to be obsolete merely 2 years after release. Also, it was not the cheapest card. Advertised for RT and now it turns out you cant even play games at 1080p with RT on which this card was advertised for and the DLSS can't even mitigate the problem which was also a selling point for this card. That is really bad if you ask me.
If NV starts giving just the right amount of Vram, RT grows (which is what NV said) than you can expect changing your graphics every gen since the vram will lack and playing games with RT goes out the window. I remember the Vram issues last year being pointed out but nobody listened. People said 8GB is not enough for the future and I do recall people laughing about it. Well, here we are now and all the advertisements for RT and DLSS seem to be obsolete just like the 3070 is in 2023. You think this is OK?
4070 has 12GB right and I recall 10GB is being short for some games? How long will this card last considering RT gobbles so much more VRam and there is a huge push for RT in games nowadays and these cards are advertised for RT great performance.
DLSS3 is for certain audience even being in the same camp. So you know, weird stuff again. Maybe with 5000 series there will be DLSS 4 so you will have to swap your card for a new one not only due to VRAM but also to be able to use the new tech since the previous one will be obsolete as well. Very good thinking form a business perspective but for a consumer rather bad.

JAB CreationsOH BOY! FAKE NOT-ADDITIONAL-PERFORMANCE "FRAMES"! Gee, if I only had purchased an 8GB 3070 or 8GB 4060 Ti I too could not load certain games at 1440p with an overpriced 8GB GPU however I'll have to settle for games loading and working with my 16GB RX 6800.

These will work at least.

How can i make it work with Titanic Honor and Glory?

Against my better judgement I clicked "Show ignored content" and saw you @ me, so I'll reply to this, but given I set you to ignore, and your reply, I don't think this will benefit me at all, but it might hewlp you understand me? Oh well here goes.

ratirtSomething like "dont like it, dont use it" is way out of line here. Put on your pink glasses and say 'that's the way it's meant to be played' but is it though?

Pink glasses? the way it's meant to be played? that has nothing material to do with my opinion of the technology whatsoever.

Way out of line... sure well your opinion is valid in context to you, but I find it very in line, so.... bust. next.

ratirtIt is not about liking something and use it but you can't use it even if you wanted to since the card is starting to be obsolete merely 2 years after release.

What is obsolete 2 years after release? is it your opinion that the card I own is? If so, that would be at direct odds with my opinion of the product I bought, and how well it's treating me, which I obviously value 100x more than anyone elses. Is it your opinion that a 4000 series card won't be able to use FG after 5000 series release? unlikely - more on that later.

ratirtAlso, it was not the cheapest card. Advertised for RT and now it turns out you cant even play games at 1080p with RT on which this card was advertised for and the DLSS can't even mitigate the problem which was also a selling point for this card. That is really bad if you ask me.

What wasn't? I really feel like I'm missing part of the discussion here. I cant read your mind. The topic is DLSS 3 being easy to add to UE3 games, I never mentioned a product... and if you're talking about the 3080 I own, cheers for your input but it still smashes every game I want, with RT if I choose, at 4k - do with that information whatever you want. If you're talking about a specific product, given you're set to ignore, I don't know what that product is.

ratirtIf NV starts giving just the right amount of Vram, RT grows (which is what NV said) than you can expect changing your graphics every gen since the vram will lack and playing games with RT goes out the window. I remember the Vram issues last year being pointed out but nobody listened. People said 8GB is not enough for the future and I do recall people laughing about it. Well, here we are now and all the advertisements for RT and DLSS seem to be obsolete just like the 3070 is in 2023.

Is this discussion about VRAM? what on earth .... are you trying to sidetrack me/everyone to? VRAM is but one facet of a graphics cards specs and my VRAM buffer is treating me just fine, I can play CP2077 on overdrive RT and get a phenomenally good next gen visual experience, and enjoy AAA titles with excellent well implemented RT effects too. I can personally guarantee you, perhaps you wont believe me anyway, that any RT capable card, right down to my A2000 6GB, can play games using RT, at resolutions and settings appropriate to their GPU 'horsepower'. Believe it, don't, I'm not sure I could care less, but it's true, I've done it myself and helped many more.

ratirtYou think this is OK?

I didn't make the statement that you appear to answer with this question to a question, so........ pass?

ratirt4070 has 12GB right and I recall 10GB is being short for some games? How long will this card last considering RT gobbles so much more VRam and there is a huge push for RT in games nowadays and these cards are advertised for RT great performance.

Is 10GB short for games? is that your opinion?, is that an unequivocally accepted fact? what game/settings/resolution/setup/the list goes on... this statement alone is a loaded and easily destroyed argument. if it's the former I suppose I missed the memo and just kept gaming without issues.

Either you've misinterpreted this situation and are way off base with your reply, or you are directly @ me and my setup and my 3080, so let me make this abundantly clear - I have zero VRAM issues, targeting 4k, using optimized settings with RT should I deem the effect/s worthwhile, and I have Z.E.R.O issues.

ratirtDLSS3 is for certain audience even being in the same camp. So you know, weird stuff again. Maybe with 5000 series there will be DLSS 4 so you will have to swap your card for a new one not only due to VRAM but also to be able to use the new tech since the previous one will be obsolete as well. Very good thinking form a business perspective but for a consumer rather bad.

The pattern here is new features every 2nd generation, I'm not expecting new features/4000 series owners missing out on what 5000 series offers, but hey, nobody knows the future, you might be right, which is the highest praise I can offer you in this interaction so far.

From my perspective, the more options offered in games, to tweak performance and IQ for anyone's personal setup and IQ/performance tastes is a good thing, and the explicit exclusion of options is bad, and lately only one company can be accused of that, might be time for those pink tinted glasses. Maybe if they supported streamline, the best and most up to date versions of every solution would be in all AAA games. It boggles my mind how the inclusion of one technology is acceptably placed against the omission of others, purely because it works for everyone while being substandard - the god damn height of hubris.

fwiw, never removed you from ignore, and I hope this reply shows why. Of course you do you, reply, don't.... doesn't phase me.

wolfWhat is obsolete 2 years after release? is it your opinion that the card I own is? If so, that would be at direct odds with my opinion of the product I bought, and how well it's treating me, which I obviously value 100x more than anyone elses. Is it your opinion that a 4000 series card won't be able to use FG after 5000 series release? unlikely - more on that later.

The card that I have mentioned in my post :) the 3070. And it is obsolete considering what it has been advertised for. It is not an opinion anymore. The advertisement, if you dont remember 1440p and RT. If your prediction is correct than you will have 3 types of DLSS each one for different gen card. We will see what DLSS4 will bring to the table and who will be able to enjoy it.

wolfAgainst my better judgement I clicked "Show ignored content" and saw you @ me, so I'll reply to this, but given I set you to ignore, and your reply, I don't think this will benefit me at all, but it might hewlp you understand me? Oh well here goes.

Ignorance is bliss. You should have trusted yourself.

wolfIs 10GB short for games? is that your opinion?, is that an unequivocally accepted fact? what game/settings/resolution/setup/the list goes on... this statement alone is a loaded and easily destroyed argument. if it's the former I suppose I missed the memo and just kept gaming without issues.

Either you've misinterpreted this situation and are way off base with your reply, or you are directly @ me and my setup and my 3080, so let me make this abundantly clear - I have zero VRAM issues, targeting 4k, using optimized settings with RT should I deem the effect/s worthwhile, and I have Z.E.R.O issues.

For some games. (if you read correctly). Yes it is and that trend will increase just as we see now with 8GB not being enough for SOME GAMES especially with RT ON. I think that is self explanatory. Wouldn't you agree?

wolfIs this discussion about VRAM? what on earth .... are you trying to sidetrack me/everyone to? VRAM is but one facet of a graphics cards specs and my VRAM buffer is treating me just fine, I can play CP2077 on overdrive RT and get a phenomenally good next gen visual experience, and enjoy AAA titles with excellent well implemented RT effects too. I can personally guarantee you, perhaps you wont believe me anyway, that any RT capable card, right down to my A2000 6GB, can play games using RT, at resolutions and settings appropriate to their GPU 'horsepower'. Believe it, don't, I'm not sure I could care less, but it's true, I've done it myself and helped many more.

This discussion is to touch subjects which are crucial for whatever is coming and it is not about what you care or you don't. You have stated that you are an ignorant and you ignore people who are not aligned with your way of thinking. for the new NV cards, nothing below 4080 is actually going to last long. I'm pretty sure, 4070 will get hammered in the next 2 years with its vram.

wolfI didn't make the statement that you appear to answer with this question to a question, so........ pass?

I did make the statement from a conclusion I've had and I asked you if you are OK with it. What's wrong with that? You always say about opinions but if someone asks about yours you refuse to answer.

wolfThe pattern here is new features every 2nd generation, I'm not expecting new features/4000 series owners missing out on what 5000 series offers, but hey, nobody knows the future, you might be right, which is the highest praise I can offer you in this interaction so far.

From my perspective, the more options offered in games, to tweak performance and IQ for anyone's personal setup and IQ/performance tastes is a good thing, and the explicit exclusion of options is bad, and lately only one company can be accused of that, might be time for those pink tinted glasses. Maybe if they supported streamline, the best and most up to date versions of every solution would be in all AAA games. It boggles my mind how the inclusion of one technology is acceptably placed against the omission of others, purely because it works for everyone while being substandard - the god damn height of hubris.

fwiw, never removed you from ignore, and I hope this reply shows why. Of course you do you, reply, don't.... doesn't phase me.

Not expecting 4000 series missing out on 5000 series features? Did you expect 3000 series missing out on the DLSS3?

You need to be more specific about saying more options offered in games since these options you speak of are not for all cards from the same camp and that "option with DLSS3 not being supported with 3000 series cards and below" can easily repeat which I believe it will. For starters, I'm not accusing anyone it is just what I have noticed and bring it up as something that is quite important from a consumer perspective.

I always reply and when I'm wrong I consent but I never ignore people since this is dishonest and disrespectful. You can't have a conversation about something by ignoring anyone even if you do not agree with that person. Especially then.

ZoneDymoDon't really get this comment, the story is that it's the ai that does the frame interpretation, though it seems something that can easily be done without ai

I mean they call it AI, but i wonder what kind of "intelligence" can they really put into an RTX card, that can interpret frames, so it can enhance them for us? To me it doesn't sound realistic at all, maybe if it would run on server farms.