Tuesday, September 26th 2023

Solidigm Launches the D7-P5810 Ultra-Fast SLC SSD for Write-Intensive Workloads

Solidigm today announced the D7-5810, an enterprise SSD for extremely intensity write workloads. Such a drive would be capable of write endurance in the neighborhood of 50 DWPD. For reference, the company's D7-P5620, a write-centric/mixed workload drive for data-logging, and AI ingest/preparation, offers around 3 DWPD of endurance, depending on the variant; and the read-intensive drive meant for CDNs, the D5-P5336, offers around 0.5 DWPD. Use cases for the new D7-P5810 include high performance caching for flash arrays dealing with "cooler" data; high-frequency trading, and HPC.

Solidigm D7-P5810 uses SK hynix 144-layer 3D NAND flash that's made to operate in a pure SLC configuration. The drive comes in 800 GB and 1.6 TB capacities, and offers 50 DWPD over an endurance period of 5 years (4K random writes). More specifically, both models offer 73 PBW (petabytes written) of endurance. The drive comes in enterprise-relevant 15 mm-thick U.2 form-factor, with PCIe Gen 4 x4 interface, with NVMe 1.3c and NVMe MI 1.1 protocols.
In terms of manufacturer-rated performance, Solidigm is claiming up to 865,000 IOPS 4K random reads (QD256), up to 495,000 IOPS 4K random writes (QD256), and response times of 13 µs for 4K sequential writes (QD1), and 10 µs sequential read at QD1. The drive offers up to 6.4 GB/s sequential reads (128K, QD128), and up to 4 GB/s sequential writes (128K, QD128). Solidigm D7-P5810 is being offered as a persistent write buffer, and a medium tiered above capacity-focused media such as the QLC-based Solidigm D5-P5336, the pure-SLC drive stores "data about data," under a cloud-storage acceleration layer (CSAL).

Solidigm is launching the D7-P5810 series with the 800 GB model, with the 1.6 TB model joining the lineup in the first half of 2024.

Solidigm Press Release

Solidigm, a leading global provider of innovative NAND flash memory solutions, is proud to announce the company's first ultra-fast, single-level cell (SLC) solid-state storage drive (SSD) for the data center market—the Solidigm D7-P5810. The D7-P5810 is a PCIe Gen 4.0 drive built on Solidigm's proven 144-layer SLC 3D NAND.

A new addition to Solidigm's high-performing D7 Series, the D7-P5810 is designed for high-endurance and extreme write-intensive workloads. This ultra-fast Storage Class Memory (SCM) SSD offers up to 50 Drive Writes Per Day (DWPD) for random, 65 DWPD for sequential, and up to 2X better performance than the competition for caching, high-performance computing (HPC), data logging, journaling, and more, at less than ~20% of the cost of non-NAND SCM technologies.

SLC as a Storage Accelerator
The D7-5810 is ideally suited as a storage accelerator in front of highly dense capacity tiers (like QLC-based SSDs), adding significant benefit in the following use cases:
  • Metadata/logging: placing performance-sensitive data such as metadata or logs on SLC can accelerate system performance by using SLC as a dedicated Write-Ahead Log in Ceph clusters, for example.
  • Caching: SLC SSDs can act as a write buffer or cache to help remove performance bottlenecks, dramatically improve application performance, and improve TCO.
  • Tiering: data is written first to the SLC SSD so commits are fast, and subsequent reads are faster. As data becomes colder, it can be aggregated, compressed, and written in bulk to underlying higher-capacity QLC drives (like Solidigm's D5-P5336) for space-efficient storage on that media. Write-shaping software such as Cloud Storage Acceleration Layer (CSAL), further delivers a solution that extends the density, TCO and sustainability value of QLC to more workloads.
"By introducing the D7-P5810, Solidigm has now further expanded its industry-leading endurance swim lane coverage. We are pleased to offer a new ultra-fast data center SSD with compelling specifications to serve customers' very high write-intensive needs," said Greg Matson, VP of Strategic Planning and Marketing at Solidigm.

The D7-P5810 is available now in 800 GB (U.2 15 mm form factor). A 1.6 TB version will be available in the first half of 2024.

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42 Comments on Solidigm Launches the D7-P5810 Ultra-Fast SLC SSD for Write-Intensive Workloads

#26
Tomorrow
GabrielLP14When in theory... but in reality its just QLC N38A 1Tb 144-Layers running in pSLC Mode
Exactly. But nowhere in the press release is it mentioned. P5810 is constantly referred to as SLC which is not true.
GabrielLP14Its not SLC
it's QLC running in pSLC Mode, the drive should be 4TB but since its a 1/4 o the capacity, its 1TB with 800GB available so its over 200GB of over provisioning
www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/solidigm-d7-p5810-800-gb.d1674
Yes i figured that out myself.
bugIt's advertised as a cache drive, QLC is no issue here. You're not bothered by the slower writes, because cache is read way more often than it is written. And if it goes belly-up, it's just one drive among a hundred others, you just replace it (but that applies to any enterprise storage setup, it's not particular to cache drives).
It is advertised as SLC. It is not mentioned in the press release or in slides that it's QLC. It's only compared to QLC.
WirkoSo you think that when you write data to this SSD, it's first stored in the SLC cache, then eventually moved to permanent storage with 4 bits per cell, but Intel, erm, Solidigm won't tell that to us? That would be extremely deceptive advertising even for a consumer SSD, let alone enterprise.
Well they're certainly not telling us that in the press release. I would hope for their sake that their specs page correctly lists this as QLC.
Also it is deceptive that they decided to name it P5810. The P5800X was Optane series. They are trying to convey to people that this is somehow upgrade over the P5800X although it is worse in nearly all metrics...except maybe the price (and availability) that i would hope is cheaper considering its QLC.
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#27
Wirko
TheLostSwedeSolidigm D7-P5810 uses SK hynix 144-layer 3D NAND flash
GabrielLP14in reality its just QLC N38A 1Tb 144-Layers
Which of those two is true? Are both true? I'm bothered because SK hynix does not use die designations such as N38A.
TomorrowWell they're certainly not telling us that in the press release. I would hope for their sake that their specs page correctly lists this as QLC.
You're saying this as if it was something bad. No, this SSD does not store four bits in each cell. It stores one bit. It doesn't matter that they are reusing flash chips designed for many bits per cell.
TomorrowAlso it is deceptive that they decided to name it P5810. The P5800X was Optane series. They are trying to convey to people that this is somehow upgrade over the P5800X although it is worse in nearly all metrics...except maybe the price (and availability) that i would hope is cheaper considering its QLC.
Regular prices of Optane drives - and "regular" should be in quotes - are somewhere between 2000 and 5000 EUR per terabyte. Enterprise NAND-based SSDs, mostly TLC, are roughly 20x cheaper. Your hope is very much justified.
Of metrics, which are the most important? 4K QD1 random reads? Yes it's bad (about 75 MB/s calculated from latency) but QD1 doesn't matter in servers. Write endurance? You'll get 90,000 write cycles for the money. Real Optane has twice the DWPD rating, and the same warranty period.

Conclusion: Real Optane can't keep up, and could never keep up, given that it stayed planar (two-layer if I understand correctly) from the first day to the last day of its life.
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#28
Tomorrow
Wirkothis SSD does not store four bits in each cell. It stores one bit.
That remains to be seen.
WirkoOf metrics, which are the most important? 4K QD1 random reads? Yes it's bad (about 75 MB/s calculated from latency) but QD1 doesn't matter in servers.
On write focused cache drive it does matter.
WirkoWrite endurance? You'll get 90,000 write cycles for the money. Real Optane has twice the DWPD rating, and the same warranty period.
Optane warranty was always short considering the endrurance and price.
WirkoConclusion: Real Optane can't keep up, and could never keep up, given that it stayed planar (two-layer if I understand correctly) from the first day to the last day of its life.
Cant keep up in terms of performance? Because that's outright false. P5800X is Gen4 like this P5810.
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#29
Breit
TomorrowNot much point with these speeds. It has average or even first gen PCIe 4.0 speeds at 6400/4000 r/w.
It's main benefit is endurance but for OS drive it's largely wasted unless you do full drive writes daily for some reason.
No. The point is 10us read latency at QD1. This makes it a pretty good OS drive.
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#30
bobbybluz
Denverwww.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/samsung-860-pro-512-gb.d12

The 860 pro if I'm not mistaken was the last SSDs to use MLC. There is still some stock on the market for those interested.
I have three of those. Two 512's and a 4TB. I bought them a year or two ago off the local Craigslist for $200. All were NIB, the seller was going to build a PC for his son and never got around to it. I have them in one of my Z690 12600K rigs with a Solidigm P44 Pro 1TB as the OS drive.
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#31
csendesmark
THU31@csendesmark

Your wish has come true. ;)
Great news!
We just need this to be released in 250 & 500 GB with m.2 interface!
Lovely news!
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#32
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
WirkoWhich of those two is true? Are both true? I'm bothered because SK hynix does not use die designations such as N38A.
SK Hynix doesn't have 144-Layers NAND Flash, only 128-Layers and 176-Layers, 144-Layers is an Intel Design.
WirkoI think it would be best to mark it just like this in your database, therefore "QLC/SLC" or "QLC in SLC mode".
its already listed as "pSLC"
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#33
Wirko
TomorrowThat remains to be seen.
I don't have a proof, I just think that you can't market a QLC drive as "pure SLC" to datacenter people, that would be worse than the bait-and-switch that we consumers get to see. They'd never buy anything Solidigm again. Besides, a pSLC cache would be of no use in a SSD designed for constant writing. Too often it wouldn't be able to move cached data to permanent (QLC) locations, so it would have to operate at roughly 1/4 the capacity or 1/4 the speed.
TomorrowOn write focused cache drive it does matter.
As enterprise drives, they are not tuned for low QD. They show their strength when they serve many users and proceses simultaneously and still maintain a low average latency and a defined maximum latency.
TomorrowOptane warranty was always short considering the endrurance and price.

Cant keep up in terms of performance? Because that's outright false. P5800X is Gen4 like this P5810.
Considering the price too, that's what I meant. NAND advanced a lot, planar became 32-layer, then 232-layer. "3D XPoint" remained 2D all along, so manufacturing costs and sales prices per gigybyte remained at DRAM levels.
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#34
bug
WirkoI don't have a proof, I just think that you can't market a QLC drive as "pure SLC" to datacenter people, that would be worse than the bait-and-switch that we consumers get to see. They'd never buy anything Solidigm again. Besides, a pSLC cache would be of no use in a SSD designed for constant writing. Too often it wouldn't be able to move cached data to permanent (QLC) locations, so it would have to operate at roughly 1/4 the capacity or 1/4 the speed.
You assume "datacenter people" buy solely on what written on the label. In fact, they're the most anal kind of customers you can have. And again, it's not marketed as "pure SLC" (in part precisely because "datacenter people" don't fall for those).
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#35
Wirko
bugYou assume "datacenter people" buy solely on what written on the label. In fact, they're the most anal kind of customers you can have. And again, it's not marketed as "pure SLC" (in part precisely because "datacenter people" don't fall for those).
No, I certainly didn't assume that.

But you're right in that it's not marketed as pure SLC - that was just the wording in the TPU news post, and I overlooked that.
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#36
chrcoluk
I think the 800 gigs is already the 1/4 capacity? So its actually 3.2TB QLC physically.

Also pSLC is considerably faster than normal QLC so its not QLC speeds, but how fast it is compared to native SLC dont know, because there hasnt really been like for like comparisons made, all SLC drives I am aware of are now really old.

As an example stacked TLC is now outperforming planar MLC, and I think has at the very least matched its erase cycle endurance.

I think the best way to market it would be 4 bit pSLC.
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#37
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
WirkoI don't have a proof, I just think that you can't market a QLC drive as "pure SLC" to datacenter people, that would be worse than the bait-and-switch that we consumers get to see. They'd never buy anything Solidigm again. Besides, a pSLC cache would be of no use in a SSD designed for constant writing. Too often it wouldn't be able to move cached data to permanent (QLC) locations, so it would have to operate at roughly 1/4 the capacity or 1/4 the speed.
it doesnt have a "SLC Cache" it just runs for all the time the drive as SLC mode, so the speeds doesn't fall
Its extremely rare to find SLC NAND Dies that are natevely SLC, but we do have QLC NANDs that in SLC mode can reach 100.000 PEC, for example the N48R which is micron's QLC 176-Layer 1Tb dies.
chrcolukI think the 800 gigs is already the 1/4 capacity? So its actually 3.2TB QLC physically.
its 4TB, the drive would be 3.2TB if it was QLC indeed, so if it was 3.2 TB it would have close to 37.4% of Over-provisioning
But since it's 800GB with 37.4% of OP, the real capacity is 1TB
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#38
chrcoluk
GabrielLP14it doesnt have a "SLC Cache" it just runs for all the time the drive as SLC mode, so the speeds doesn't fall
Its extremely rare to find SLC NAND Dies that are natevely SLC, but we do have QLC NANDs that in SLC mode can reach 100.000 PEC, for example the N48R which is micron's QLC 176-Layer 1Tb dies.


its 4TB, the drive would be 3.2TB if it was QLC indeed, so if it was 3.2 TB it would have close to 37.4% of Over-provisioning
But since it's 800GB with 37.4% of OP, the real capacity is 1TB
Yes, I meant usable capacity, sorry if that wasnt clear.

On my DC P4600 I actually have 2TB usable, they didnt stick on 2TB and remove 30%, they added 30% on top.

What they did on this drive seems overly harsh. So 20% OP probably should be a 4.8TB drive, with 1TB usable.
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#39
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
chrcolukYes, I meant usable capacity, sorry if that wasnt clear.

On my DC P4600 I actually have 2TB usable, they didnt stick on 2TB and remove 30%, they added 30% on top.

What they did on this drive seems overly harsh. So 20% OP probably should be a 4.8TB drive, with 1TB usable.
Oh i see interesting. By the way i'll try adding that SSD to my Database, but it's hard AF to get proper information for those SSDs, specially their Controllers.
Intel, Solidigm and SK Hynix are a nightmare to get information about their controllers, for real, they don't tell us anything
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#40
Wirko
chrcolukOn my DC P4600 I actually have 2TB usable, they didnt stick on 2TB and remove 30%, they added 30% on top.
But do you know of any SSD that is sold as x GB, and the usable capacity is less?

Of course you need to take into account that tera equals 1000^4, not 1024^4, and it's been this way since spinning rust.
GabrielLP14its 4TB, the drive would be 3.2TB if it was QLC indeed, so if it was 3.2 TB it would have close to 37.4% of Over-provisioning
But since it's 800GB with 37.4% of OP, the real capacity is 1TB
The calculation of total capacity is only possible when you have all the details about the die (bytes/page, pages/block, blocks/plane, planes/die), and even that can only be an approximation. There's also firmware, FTL, other metadata that take up space, then there's allowance for bad blocks (bad when factory tested), and maybe more.
Here's an example for which your database has full data: the Micron B47R die, nominally 512 Gbit, is 609 GBit raw in decimal units, or 567 Gi-bit raw in binary units. There would be more if you counted in page-level metadata (ECC etc.) but metadata can never be user data. Is that 19% OP (=609/512-1)? Or less?
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#41
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
WirkoBut do you know of any SSD that is sold as x GB, and the usable capacity is less?

Of course you need to take into account that tera equals 1000^4, not 1024^4, and it's been this way since spinning rust.


The calculation of total capacity is only possible when you have all the details about the die (bytes/page, pages/block, blocks/plane, planes/die), and even that can only be an approximation. There's also firmware, FTL, other metadata that take up space, then there's allowance for bad blocks (bad when factory tested), and maybe more.
Here's an example for which your database has full data: the Micron B47R die, nominally 512 Gbit, is 609 GBit raw in decimal units, or 567 Gi-bit raw in binary units. There would be more if you counted in page-level metadata (ECC etc.) but metadata can never be user data. Is that 19% OP (=609/512-1)? Or less?
i'm aware i have many datasheets which already lists it.
But i don't count the ECC + Bad Block spares on each dies in our database.
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#42
chrcoluk
WirkoBut do you know of any SSD that is sold as x GB, and the usable capacity is less?

Of course you need to take into account that tera equals 1000^4, not 1024^4, and it's been this way since spinning rust.


The calculation of total capacity is only possible when you have all the details about the die (bytes/page, pages/block, blocks/plane, planes/die), and even that can only be an approximation. There's also firmware, FTL, other metadata that take up space, then there's allowance for bad blocks (bad when factory tested), and maybe more.
Here's an example for which your database has full data: the Micron B47R die, nominally 512 Gbit, is 609 GBit raw in decimal units, or 567 Gi-bit raw in binary units. There would be more if you counted in page-level metadata (ECC etc.) but metadata can never be user data. Is that 19% OP (=609/512-1)? Or less?
When I said usable I meant in the same way as it is done on consumer drives. If it was done like this new solidigm drive I would have a 1.4TB drive on the 1000^4 basis, but instead its 2TB on the 1000^4 basis, I hope thats super clear now as I though it was clear what I meant.

Also the extra spare on enterprise is mostly to improve wear levelling and trim performance rather than bad block replacement, the more spare an SSD has, the more efficient it works.
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