Monday, November 13th 2023

MSI Readies BIOS Update for 14th Generation Intel Core Processors to Enable APO

According to the discovery made by @ghost_motley on X/Twitter, we have information that MSI is starting to roll out BIOS updates to accommodate Intel's Application Optimization called APO shortly. This update, however, comes with significant restrictions. Intel APO, designed to enhance performance, is exclusively compatible with 14th Gen Intel CPUs, leaving owners of previous-generation Intel processors, mainly the closely comparable 13th Gen, without this benefit. Intel's APO is an extension of its Dynamic Tuning Technology (DTT) specifically for gaming. It is available on select 14th Gen Core processors like the i9-14900K/KF, enhancing workload distribution across hardware resources like P-cores and optimizing them for peak frequencies.

As noted, the current rollout of Intel APO support is limited, namely to the Intel Core i7-14700K, i7-14700KF, i9-14900K, and i9-14900KF, excluding the Core i5 series. This omission is significant given APO's focus on boosting gaming performance, a feature that would be highly beneficial to Core i5 users. However, the feature is currently supported by only two games: Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege and Metro Exodus. The frame rate improvements in Rainbow can be as high as 13% while also boosting Metro Exodus FPS by 16%. Whether we will see more APO-optimized games or not, owners of MSI motherboards have received their updates and are ready to enjoy the FPS increase.
Sources: @ghost_motley (X/Twitter), via Tom's Hardware
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56 Comments on MSI Readies BIOS Update for 14th Generation Intel Core Processors to Enable APO

#51
dyonoctis
fevgatosIt doesn't matter what I have, is what I said wrong? Have they increased core counts lately?
No they haven't. ATM They don't need to do it to compete with the i9, (and the architecture and the socket made it hard to do so, at least until zen c). Just like Intel didn't need to go above four cores for a full decade.
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#52
JustBenching
dyonoctisNo they haven't. ATM They don't need to do it to compete with the i9, (and the architecture and the socket made it hard to do so, at least until zen c). Just like Intel didn't need to go above four cores for a full decade.
But they need it to compete with the lower tiers. Their top r7 cpu is losing not only to an i7 but also to an i5. Handily too.

It feels like ryzen 1 vs kabylake but in reverse.
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#53
stimpy88
fevgatosIt doesn't matter what I have, is what I said wrong? Have they increased core counts lately?
Do they need to?
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#54
JustBenching
stimpy88Do they need to?
Yes. Their latest R5 (7600x) is losing to an i5 from 3 generations ago in MT performance. Heck, even their R7 (like the 7800x 3d / 7700x) is barely ahead of a 3gen old i5 (12600k). What do you think?
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#55
stimpy88
fevgatosYes. Their latest R5 (7600x) is losing to an i5 from 3 generations ago in MT performance. Heck, even their R7 (like the 7800x 3d / 7700x) is barely ahead of a 3gen old i5 (12600k). What do you think?
Well, it's not long until Zen5 based products launch. But if they have better perf than Intel, then do they need more cores? I think 16 is not bad, and 16 cores with +-20 more perf is nothing to be sniffed at, and is basically 3 cores more, if you want to look at it that way...

The basic question is how much software takes advantage of 16+ cores. Almost none outside of specialized software, and for that you have Epic or Threadripper.

Pretty much nothing apart from 3D graphics rendering takes advantage of more than 8 cores, 16 threads. Media rendering is done mostly on GPU's these days, so another use case out the window...
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#56
JustBenching
stimpy88Well, it's not long until Zen5 based products launch. But if they have better perf than Intel, then do they need more cores? I think 16 is not bad, and 16 cores with +-20 more perf is nothing to be sniffed at, and is basically 3 cores more, if you want to look at it that way...

The basic question is how much software takes advantage of 16+ cores. Almost none outside of specialized software, and for that you have Epic or Threadripper.

Pretty much nothing apart from 3D graphics rendering takes advantage of more than 8 cores, 16 threads. Media rendering is done mostly on GPU's these days, so another use case out the window...
You realize that the 7600x does not have 16 cores right?
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