Monday, January 6th 2025

NVIDIA 2025 International CES Keynote: Liveblog

NVIDIA kicks off the 2025 International CES with a bang. The company is expected to debut its new GeForce "Blackwell" RTX 5000 generation of gaming graphics cards. It is also expected to launch new technology, such as neural rendering, and DLSS 4. The company is also expected to highlight a new piece of silicon for Windows on Arm laptops, showcase the next in its Drive PX FSD hardware, and probably even talk about its next-generation "Blackwell Ultra" AI GPU, and if we're lucky, even namedrop "Rubin." Join us, as we liveblog CEO Jensen Huang's keynote address.

02:22 UTC: The show is finally underway!
02:35 UTC: CTA president Gary Shaprio kicks off the show, introduces Jensen Huang.
02:46 UTC: "Tokens are the building blocks of AI"

02:46 UTC: "Do you like my jacket?"
02:47 UTC: NVIDIA recounts progress all the way till NV1 and UDA.
02:48 UTC: "CUDA was difficult to explain, it took 6 years to get the industry to like it"
02:50 UTC: "AI is coming home to GeForce". NVIDIA teases neural material and neural rendering. Rendered on "Blackwell"
02:55 UTC: Every single pixel is ray traced, thanks to AI rendering.
02:55 UTC: Here it is, the GeForce RTX 5090.
03:20 UTC: At least someone is pushing the limits for GPUs.
03:22 UTC: Incredible board design.
03:22 UTC: RTX 5070 matches RTX 4090 at $550.
03:24 UTC: Here's the lineup, available from January.
03:24 UTC: RTX 5070 Laptop starts at $1299.
03:24 UTC: "The future of computer graphics is neural rendering"
03:25 UTC: Laptops powered by RTX Blackwell: staring prices:
03:26 UTC: AI has come back to power GeForce.
03:28 UTC: Supposedly the Grace Blackwell NVLink72.
03:28 UTC: 1.4 ExaFLOPS.
03:32 UTC: NVIDIA very sneakily teased a Windows AI PC chip.

03:35 UTC: NVIDIA is teaching generative AI basic physics. NVIDIA Cosmos, a world foundation model.
03:41 UTC: NVIDIA Cosmos is trained on 20 million hours of video.

03:43 UTC: Cosmos is open-licensed on GitHub.

03:52 UTC: NVIDIA onboards Toyota for its next generation EV for full-self driving.

03:53 UTC: NVIDIA unveils Thor Blackwell robotics processor.
03:53 UTC: Thor is 20x the processing capability of Orin.

03:54 UTC: CUDA is now a functional safe computer thanks to its automobile certifications.
04:01 UTC: NVIDIA brought a dozen humanoid robots to the stage.

04:07 UTC: Project DIGITS, is a shrunk down AI supercomputer.
04:08 UTC: NVIDIA GB110 "Grace-Blackwell" chip powers DIGITS.
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446 Comments on NVIDIA 2025 International CES Keynote: Liveblog

#251
Lycanwolfen
So now the average Gaming PC is 10 grand. Um you can buy cars for 10 grand.
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#252
mxthunder
$2000 for a 5090 is a bit painful, but at least $1000 for a 5080 is "reasonable" compared to $1200 last gen. I really wish the 5090 got the full die. It really bothers me when they dont release a product like 3090Ti that uses the full GPU. my OCD i guess.
I still miss the days of a further cut down big die part i.e. 5080Ti for ~$1200. One can dream.
5070 can only hope to fake its way to 4090 horsepower with AI tricks.
I hope DLSS tech gets better this gen. Fake frames are nice to use in a pinch, but they definitely have noticeable and distracting artifacts. Not an end game solution, just a way to distract the public with more performance while leveraging the baked in AI tech of the GPUs.
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#253
Vya Domus
mxthunderbut at least $1000 for a 5080 is "reasonable" compared to $1200 last gen.
lol no

People have truly done lost their minds. You are paying 1000$ for half of the flagship.
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#254
Legacy-ZA
It's actually a shame they didn't release on the same day they were announced, that would have been something. I was hoping for that December launch. :)
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#255
John974
Vya Domuslol no

People have truly done lost their minds. You are paying 1000$ for half of the flagship.
Compared to last gen it's yes.. would be nice if it was at least 20% faster as 4080s for the same price (native) but i have some doubts.
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#256
3x0
Dawora5080 is 20-30% faster than 4090
Source?
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#257
TheinsanegamerN
LycanwolfenSo now the average Gaming PC is 10 grand. Um you can buy cars for 10 grand.
LOL no it isnt.
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#258
mxthunder
Vya Domuslol no

People have truly done lost their minds. You are paying 1000$ for half of the flagship.
Well, $1000 for half makes perfect sense when the flagship is $2000 :laugh:
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#259
Hxx
Onasi@igormp
A bit too gaudy for my taste, a bit too noevau riche, too “Vegas pimp”. Worn saddle leather would be classier.
His jacket is made of the missing vram chips from the 40 series cards it’s soo shiny lol
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#261
JustBenching
Finally I can use my 4k 240hz monitor for heavy AAA games with the new dlss. Not bad.
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#262
Vya Domus
Dr. DroArchitecture-level improvements.
You're not being serious when you're saying that you also believe a 5080 is going to be 30% faster than a 4090 ?
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#263
Hxx
Vya DomusYou're not being serious when you're saying that you also believe a 5080 is going to be 30% faster than a 4090 ?
Apples to oranges comparison. 50 and 40 series are based on different architectures and so the cores are not the same and you can’t take the same number of cores percentage and draw some conclusion about its performance because it will result in a wild nonsense answer. If it’s just like 40 vs 30 series then I would expect the 5070 to match a 4090 in certain cases but mostly being slightly inferior and as you go up to the TI and the 5080 you will see larger differences compared to a 4090. In some cases where the 4090s memory buffer plays a bigger role then you will see the 4090 getting close to or matching even a 5080 but for most cases unless you need that large memory buffer of the 4090 I would disregard the 40 series .

We’ve been through this in the past with nvidias releases
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#264
JustBenching
oxrufiioxoThe only difference in my book is that if you Turn on DLSS4 you will get the % they claim but as I said above showing one thing a gpu does that a previous generation doesn't do makes it look like they are hiding real performance gains.



It's technically not false if you turn it on and it does what it shows though. False would be them showing 1000 fps but when reviewers get the product it maxes at 200 fps.....
As much as I don't get all the hating about DLSS 4 etc., fact of the matter is they are not actual frames (they do not affect the game engine) and therefore they just shouldn't be on a framerate graph / slide from nvidias marketing or from reviewers.

On the other hand, it's really hard to demonstrate what FG actually does so what other way do you actually have besides putting them on a graph?
Hecate91Yeah we know how it ends, nvidia buyers buy nvidia anyway while the fans gloat about marketshare.
Ive read comments similar to yours a hundred times this past week. You are not doing your side any favors. Honestly, on the list of why im not buying amd GPUs "obnoxious comments by the company's fans" is at the top.
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#265
Timbaloo
NVIDIA very sneakily teased a Windows AI PC chip.
Can anyone tell me what/how they teased it? Was there any actual info? I know it's an Arm based SoC, but was there any more?
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#266
Vya Domus
Hxxthe cores are not the same and you can’t take the same number of cores percentage and draw some conclusion
Yes you can, shader count has been one of the most reliable ways to estimate performance.
JustBenchingYou are not doing your side any favors. Honestly, on the list of why im not buying amd GPUs "obnoxious comments by the company's fans" is at the top.
"Actually I don't buy AMD because I don't like what their fans have to say" is certainly a take.
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#267
Chrispy_
I've been busy today but from what I can tell, AMD have launched nothing, just announced that the 9000-series is coming soon but not available yet, and that it's 4 models spanning a 7600XT to a 79000XT ish.

Nvidia have said AI about 9000 times and we have no benchmarks, just vague handwavium to say that the 5070 is as fast as a 4090 with no details on how that quote was obtained.

It's unlikely that the 5070 can match the 4090 without assistance, so presumably DLSS4 AI Neural AI Frame-Gen AI can AI deliver some AI fake frames at the same rate the 4090 can render frames natively without as much AI?

The real question is when do we get the first independent review (of the 5080FE, I think, right?)
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#268
Dawora
LittleBroSo it's perfectly fine for you when 75% of these FPS show something inaccurate, unreal, approximated?
You are okay that you paid so much for your GPU and this is what you get?

Is this a joke? How on Earth would 5080 with 60% of 4090's processing units could be 20-30% faster in native?
Only with FG. Now imagine what would happen if RTX 4090 supported newest generation of FG.

www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4090.c3889
www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5080.c4217
Those are cheap prices and DLSS looks better than Native so yes im OK if i can get more FPS for free.
FG is also realy good, finaly high Fps in 4K
Vya Domuslol no

People have truly done lost their minds. You are paying 1000$ for half of the flagship.
Just buy the flagship 2000$
Or half the price, half the gpu 5080

Or just buy AMD
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#269
Vya Domus
DaworaJust buy the flagship 2000$
Or half the price, half the gpu 5080
Nah, buy 10 of them, 10x 5090 = 2000$ * 10 = 20000$ = 10 times the performance. Pro tip.

I am very smart.
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#270
Vayra86
oxrufiioxo100%.... Although raster performance on the 4090 vs 5090 according to the slide is 50% and so probably 70-80% better RT.... So still hard to say the 5080 has half the hardware.
They're going to be similar at best, is my estimate, but I still think the 5080 will land just below the 4090.

Its a good 5000 shader units short of that GPU. There is no way its going to surpass it, honestly, even (or especially not) at 360W.
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#271
Vya Domus
oxrufiioxoA plauge tale has frame generation 3.5 on and is a heavy ish game and the 5080 is 30% faster....
In the meantime DF released a video essentially confirming basically all of that performance comes from the 4X FG.

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#272
Vayra86
LittleBroSo it's perfectly fine for you when 75% of these FPS show something inaccurate, unreal, approximated?
You are okay that you paid so much for your GPU and this is what you get?

Is this a joke? How on Earth would 5080 with 60% of 4090's processing units could be 20-30% faster in native?
Only with FG. Now imagine what would happen if RTX 4090 supported newest generation of FG.

www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4090.c3889
www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5080.c4217
Yeah I don't understand how people do math either. Ever since we knew the 5080 was half the 5090, it was a given this would never be faster than the 4090. Its also the best outcome for Nvidia because now they just position the 4090 between the new line up, and it sits there just fine. Effectively, nothing happened between Ada and Blackwell if you think of it. The 4090 is what, 1499? It slots perfectly in the middle there. The perf/$ metric has moved exactly zero that way. You're just paying the extra performance with a higher power target = power consumption. Its not on Nvidia's bill at all. It is complete stagnation. But hey, here's DLSS4! hahaha And look at my leather jacket.

And here we have people saying 'muh, good prices'. :roll::roll: what the fck

The 5080 is also a big nothing burger if you know the 4080 Super exists. Same shader count. Same VRAM but a slight bit faster. Similar price. Every last bit of extra perf is probably paid by having to buy a new PSU, as this fantastic x80 is the first one to consume power like a flagship card on an OC.
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#273
JustBenching
Vya DomusIn the meantime DF released a video essentially confirming basically all of that performance comes from the 4X FG.

FG doesn't necessarily double your framerate, therefore I assume the new FG isn't going to quadruple them either, so whatever comparison you are trying to make from that screenshot are wrong.
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#274
wheresmycar
Goodness Gracious Me

I like reading peoples comments and then playing catch up with each new comment with TPU notifications. But, 11-pages already!! F-that!

50-series:

They've got us by the balls again! Its the same old game - toss out rumors and leaks to make us think prices are gonna be through the roof, so when launch day hits and its still expensive, but not as expensive as our fuelled predictions, we’re somehow sitting there like “Oh thank goodness, what a bargain!”. Classic hustle.

Not gonna lie, I’m kinda relieved though. Definitely ready to upgrade and finally break free from my current GPU bottleneck. A $750 5070 Ti might just do the job. If the 5080 actually delivers 4090-level or better performance, it’s definitely up for consideration. The least i'm expecting, absent of FG/DLSS, at 1440p, is a 50% increase in performance over my 3080 - if the 5070 TI is capable, its a BUY.

Come on Whizzy, jump over them NDAs and drop them reviews already!! :clap:
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#275
JustBenching
Vayra86Yeah I don't understand how people do math either. Ever since we knew the 5080 was half the 5090, it was a given this would never be faster than the 4090. Its also the best outcome for Nvidia because now they just position the 4090 between the new line up, and it sits there just fine. Effectively, nothing happened between Ada and Blackwell if you think of it. The 4090 is what, 1499? It slots perfectly in the middle there. The perf/$ metric has moved exactly zero that way. You're just paying the extra performance with a higher power target = power consumption. Its not on Nvidia's bill at all. It is complete stagnation. But hey, here's DLSS4! hahaha And look at my leather jacket.

And here we have people saying 'muh, good prices'. :roll::roll: what the fck

The 5080 is also a big nothing burger if you know the 4080 Super exists. Same shader count. Same VRAM but a slight bit faster. Similar price. Every last bit of extra perf is probably paid by having to buy a new PSU, as this fantastic x80 is the first one to consume power like a flagship card on an OC.
5070 = 4090 bro, what you are talking about

/s
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