Wednesday, August 12th 2020
Xe-HPG is the Performance Gaming Graphics Architecture to Look Out for from Intel
Intel appears to have every intention of addressing the performance gaming segment with its Xe graphics architecture. According to information leaked to the web by VideoCardz, Xe-HPG (high performance gaming?) represents a product vertical dedicated to the gaming segment. Among the other verticals are Xe-HPC (high performance compute). The Xe-HPG graphics architecture is being developed for a 2021 market launch. It will feature all the client-segment staples, including a conventional PCI-Express interface, and GDDR6 memory instead of HBM. Intel may also eye DirectX 12 Ultimate logo compliance. Intel's Xe discrete GPU and scalar processor development is already de-coupled with Intel's foundry business development, and so the company could contract external foundries to manufacture these chips.
As for specs, it is learned that each Xe-HP "tile" (a silicon die sub-unit that adds up in MCMs for higher tiers of Xe scalar processors), features 512 execution units (EUs). Compare this to the Xe-LP iGPU solution found in the upcoming "Tiger Lake" processor, which has 96. Intel has been able to design scalar processors with up to four tiles, adding up to 2,048 EUs. It remains to be seen if each tile on the scalar processors also include the raster hardware needed for the silicon to function as a GPU. The number of tiles on Xe-HPG are not known, but it reportedly features GDDR6 memory, and so the tile could be a variation of the Xe-HP. Intel SVP and technology head Raja Koduri is expected to detail the near-future of Intel architectures at a virtual event later today, and Xe-HPG is expected to come up.
Source:
VideoCardz
As for specs, it is learned that each Xe-HP "tile" (a silicon die sub-unit that adds up in MCMs for higher tiers of Xe scalar processors), features 512 execution units (EUs). Compare this to the Xe-LP iGPU solution found in the upcoming "Tiger Lake" processor, which has 96. Intel has been able to design scalar processors with up to four tiles, adding up to 2,048 EUs. It remains to be seen if each tile on the scalar processors also include the raster hardware needed for the silicon to function as a GPU. The number of tiles on Xe-HPG are not known, but it reportedly features GDDR6 memory, and so the tile could be a variation of the Xe-HP. Intel SVP and technology head Raja Koduri is expected to detail the near-future of Intel architectures at a virtual event later today, and Xe-HPG is expected to come up.
34 Comments on Xe-HPG is the Performance Gaming Graphics Architecture to Look Out for from Intel
Lets hope this isn't another 10nm debacle.
The only thing that might negate that fact is the virtually bottomless pit of money that Intel can throw at it, compared to what AMD allocated to their GPU division, but we'll see.
Then there is the cost aspect. Can Intel really compete in the midrange? Because if they cannot, they will not have the volume and customer base to keep a strong support base for a vast number of games going. You can't explain that to shareholders. I wonder how long their breath is going to be in that regard. They won't have that midrange volume the first gen, or the second, or likely even the third. They might need as much as ten years.
Nvidia didn't get big on leather jackets and flashy marketing. They got big because they nailed their support and added services in a way that its there if you want it, and if its missing, it will probably get released fast or first. Their Game Ready driver offensive is another perfect split of great marketing with actual support. The result? We trust them. Trust level for Intel is probably sub zero.
As so often the problem isn't directly hardware. I'm sure Intel can daisy chain enough IGPs to get somewhere.
you serious? You trust a billion dollar company? You trust any billion dollar company? You understand that all of those care only for their shareholders, stock value and manager salaries. They shit on customers! Not only Nvidia, all of them. They dont care for you, they want your money, everything else is BS!
Sorry, but I have not forgotten how the tried to cheat customers with the 970. Even if the effect was mostly unnoticeable, they still tried to cheat their customers!
They didn't get big with support. They got big with Riva TNT and soon after with Hardware T+L and also with the aquisition of other good companies and their technologies.
Maybe they will team up with unlimited detail and Tachyum CPUs to make the best vapors on the internet.
2) "Will be manufactured at TSMC" => tell me how Intel could have planned it upfront
3) If Intel didn't plan #2 upfront, tell me how they could have a ready to sell product next year
4) #1
Hope they do better. But performance market seems to be setting the bar quite high for a company that's struggling with entry level, for the time being.
Maybe we're expecting too much, maybe they set expectations too high themselves with the various press blitzes.
And second, it seems Intel has decided these are the parts they'll let others build for them. So, as much as I want a third player*, it seems at least for the time being, desktop is not Intel's priority.
*I don't need a competitor to 3080 or 3080Ti, I'm good with competition at the mid-range.
Zen3 / 4 / 5 are going to slaughter the Intel CPU product stack.
Adding some launch prices:
780 - 500$
980 - 550$
1080 - 600$
2080 - 800$
Why do you think this happens, because the market works well?
Also it depends how you look, maybe from US perspective there are 2 competitors, 3 soon, from EU perspective everything is US based. So, is there an US monopoly?
You fell me? It never hurts to have more than one alternative.