Tuesday, August 18th 2020
Apple A14X Bionic Rumored To Match Intel Core i9-9880H
The Apple A14X Bionic is an upcoming processor from Apple which is expected to feature in the upcoming iPad Pro models and should be manufactured on TSMC's 5 nm node. Tech YouTuber Luke Miani has recently provided a performance graph for the A14X chip based on "leaked/suspected A14 info + average performance gains from previous X chips". In these graphs, the Apple A14X can be seen matching the Intel Core i9-9880H in Geekbench 5 with a score of 7480. The Intel Intel Core i9-9880H is a 45 W eight-core mobile CPU found in high-end notebooks such as the 2019 16-inch MacBook Pro and requires significant cooling to keep thermals under control.
If these performance estimates are correct or even close then Apple will have a serious productivity device and will serve as a strong basis for Apple's transition to custom CPU's for it's MacBook's in 2021. Apple may use a custom version of the A14X with slightly higher clocks in their upcoming ARM MacBooks according to Luke Miani. These results are estimations at best so take them with a pinch of salt until Apple officially unveils the chip.
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@LukeMiani
If these performance estimates are correct or even close then Apple will have a serious productivity device and will serve as a strong basis for Apple's transition to custom CPU's for it's MacBook's in 2021. Apple may use a custom version of the A14X with slightly higher clocks in their upcoming ARM MacBooks according to Luke Miani. These results are estimations at best so take them with a pinch of salt until Apple officially unveils the chip.
85 Comments on Apple A14X Bionic Rumored To Match Intel Core i9-9880H
As usual very misleading marketing...
I'll take x86 and some real responsiveness, ty
ARM Is a joke
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A14X will run Shadow of the Tomb Raider and any other PS4/Xbox game. Not surprising since it will match a GTX 1060 easily enough, but only need 10-15W. The Switch is circa 2014 hardware (Galaxy Note 4 CPU plus half a GTX 750) so imagine a Switch that is 6 years more advanced and there you have it.
ARM is just an instruction set. The FX-8350 from AMD and the Intel 10900k have as much in common (both x86) as any Apple CPU and any other ARM CPU. Barely anything in common. You can't say "ARM is slow or ARM sucks" unless you are truly ignorant. The only thing keeping Intel half decent is high clock speeds, in fact run your 10900k in dual core mode at 2.4ghz and compare with the iPhone and you'll see how slow it really is in comparison. Like for like. And those clock speeds are going to climb massively when Apple sticks the A14X in a desktop or laptop.
Assuming it's the same story with the A14X and you have eight of them + bigger caches, you"ll be looking at the same Power draw as the AMD and Intel H series mobile chips.
I'm sure the A14X will be a very strong chip, but it's not going to be beyond what is available from Intel and especially AMD.
The point is mainly... ARM is a very tight ecosystem right now, x86 is pretty broad, but the latter is also much more refined in its versatility. It will certainly handle multiple varying tasks better and maintain responsiveness and its performance scales more linearly instead of dropping off hard at some point.
Keep in mind the general use cases vary along with the different CPUs. The ARM devices get tailor made stuff for their limited resources. And that is also why the Geekbenches are so utterly pointless.
edit: your table has the 60Hz display version of the ipad pro. Just by swapping to the later ones with 120Hz display you should get at least 8ms off that result, making it even more impressive. I mean the 30ms figure you posted for the 2017 model means that the total lag is less than two frames, so assuming the need for a frame buffer (there definitely is one) it can’t realistically really be any faster.
as they'll make it gives them the unique opportunity to create it the best way to be used by i assume a new os ; i don't think we'll see higher latencies maybe lower ....anyway we need to wait the 1st batch leaks..
If you run all the CPU & GPU cores at Max frequency the chip can consume up to 20W, but of course apple doesn't allow that to happen and limits the maximum power available.
Apple fanboys are something else.
Apple controls the software side, which is why they can do this and why they can make it seem like ARM is suddenly a magical do-all. They've done the exact same with Intel's x86 CPUs on current software, where they also offer very little hardware for the money but still have a good user experience, and decent enough performance.
At the same time you don't see Apple in HPC for heavy crunch loads and they are non existant in any half serious enterprise landscape, except as individual workstations. Server, data... nope. They offer machines that are great terminals, and pretty shitty at everything else. And even as a terminal, don't you dare think of advanced/power user functionality. Its just not there.
I’d also like to know why/how apple would enter the HPC market, when they didn’t have any own hardware up until now.