Tuesday, September 29th 2020
First Signs of AMD Zen 3 "Vermeer" CPUs Surface, Ryzen 7 5800X Tested
AMD is preparing to launch the new iteration of desktop CPUs based on the latest Zen 3 core, codenamed Vermeer. On October 8th, AMD will hold the presentation and again deliver the latest technological advancements to its desktop platform. The latest generation of CPUs will be branded as a part of 5000 series, bypassing the 4000 series naming scheme which should follow, given that the prior generation was labeled as 3000 series of processors. Nonetheless, AMD is going to bring a new Zen 3 core with its processors, which should bring modest IPC gains. It will be manufactured on TSMC's 7 nm+ manufacturing node, which offers a further improvement to power efficiency and transistor density.
Today, we have gotten the first benchmark of AMD's upcoming Ryzen 7 5800X CPU. Thanks to the popular hardware leaker, TUP APISAK, we have the first benchmark of the new Vermeer processor, compared to Intel's latest and greatest - Core i9-10900K. The AMD processor is an eight-core, sixteen threaded model compared to the 10C/20T Intel processor. While we do not know the final clocks of the AMD CPU, we could assume that the engineering sample was used and we could see an even higher performance. Below you can see the performance of the CPU and how it compares to Intel. By the numbers shown, we can expect AMD to possibly be a new gaming king, as the numbers are very close to Intel. The average batch result for the Ryzen 7 5800X was 59.3 FPS and when it comes to CPU frames it managed to score 133.6 FPS. Intel's best managed to average 60.3 FPS and 114.8 FPS from the CPU framerates. Both systems were tested with NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 2080 GPUs.
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@TUM_APISAK (Twitter)
Today, we have gotten the first benchmark of AMD's upcoming Ryzen 7 5800X CPU. Thanks to the popular hardware leaker, TUP APISAK, we have the first benchmark of the new Vermeer processor, compared to Intel's latest and greatest - Core i9-10900K. The AMD processor is an eight-core, sixteen threaded model compared to the 10C/20T Intel processor. While we do not know the final clocks of the AMD CPU, we could assume that the engineering sample was used and we could see an even higher performance. Below you can see the performance of the CPU and how it compares to Intel. By the numbers shown, we can expect AMD to possibly be a new gaming king, as the numbers are very close to Intel. The average batch result for the Ryzen 7 5800X was 59.3 FPS and when it comes to CPU frames it managed to score 133.6 FPS. Intel's best managed to average 60.3 FPS and 114.8 FPS from the CPU framerates. Both systems were tested with NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 2080 GPUs.
82 Comments on First Signs of AMD Zen 3 "Vermeer" CPUs Surface, Ryzen 7 5800X Tested
Still the closer they get on gaming the better.
I'm so tired of "AMD is for the poors" i see on facebook, they need to stomp intel and make this better for consumers.
(Why does the 10900K only have 16GB of memory tho.)
Promote the competition why don't they? :kookoo:
Not the first time I've seen this & probably won't be the last either!
Have been using a 3700X recently but about to build a new system.
Did a build for a friend recently, they wanted to go Intel and the 10850K OCing very easily @5.3 All core on 10 cores was a hell of an incentive to switch back to blue.
I am doubtful AMD will be beating Intel on gaming just yet, but will see what the independent benchmarking says.
There are two main reasons which gives Intel an edge in gaming and certain other workloads; a better front-end(prefetcher, branch-prediction etc.) and lower memory latency. Other contributors includes cache configurations, clock cycles required of specific instructions etc. Core to core latency is not as important as memory latency, there are thousands of memory accesses for each core to core access.There is no such thing, it's simply a result of AMD's design choices.
In order to optimize software for specific hardware, you need either special ISA features or specific performance characteristics."Single threaded" is commonly misunderstood by most of you in here.
Single threaded performance is a benchmark of a single thread, that doesn't mean that applications which scales better with "single threaded performance" are only running a single thread. Whenever you see "single threaded performance" you should think "performance per thread" instead.
But the the exciting part is the fact that assuming this is a R7 399$ CPU vs i9 699$ CPU.
I can only wonder the 5900X performance.
www.pcgamesn.com/amd/ryzen-5-4650g-benchmark-3600
www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-pro-4750g-renoir-review/5Lower latency
www.techpowerup.com/269223/amd-ryzen-7-4700ge-memory-benchmarked-extremely-low-latency-explains-tiny-l3-caches
None of it seems to do anything for Ryzen.
The Intel cpus in recent years already boost to around 4.9~5Ghz on their own. (More so when modern motherboard just ignore the Intel boost limits / duration anyway)
So even if you manage 5.3Ghz stable on all core, the actual performance increase is not that much over stock.
Pretty much no games contain low-level assembly code anyway these days, and many studios use off-the-shelf game engines and do no low-level coding at all.