Tuesday, January 25th 2022

G.SKILL and ASUS Sets New DDR5-8888 CL88 Overclocking World Record

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G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd., the world's leading manufacturer of extreme performance memory and gaming peripherals, is thrilled to announce the achievement of a new overclocking world record for fastest memory frequency at DDR5-8888 CL88-88-88-88, in cooperation with ASUS. This amazing frequency speed was achieved by the extreme overclocker "lupin_no_musume" with G.SKILL Trident Z5 DDR5 memory, ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 APEX motherboard, and Intel Core i9-12900K processor. To see the moment this amazing overclocking world record was set, please click the following video link: https://youtu.be/OgQFbUOs6i8

DDR5-8888 CL88-88-88-88 - Pushing the Speed to the Limit
At the dawn of the DDR5 era, G.SKILL and ASUS have been constantly exploring the memory speed limitations of the latest Intel Z690 platform. Surpassing the previous DDR5-8704 world record in November 2021, a new memory frequency world record is achieved at DDR5-8888 under liquid nitrogen extreme cooling. The memory speed has been validated by CPU-Z. Please refer to the screenshot and validation link below: https://valid.x86.fr/qgvylc
"We are very excited to collaborate with the ASUS ROG team to break the DDR5 frequency world record at DDR5-8888 with our best-in-class hardware," says Tequila Huang, Corporate Vice President of G.SKILL International. "This demonstrates the unparalleled overclocking potential of DDR5, and we will continue to dedicate effort into developing faster DDR5 memory for overclockers and PC enthusiasts."

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32 Comments on G.SKILL and ASUS Sets New DDR5-8888 CL88 Overclocking World Record

#1
Space Lynx
Astronaut
CL 88? would have been interesting to see some game benchmarks not just synthetic scores with that lol
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#2
theGryphon
What I understand is, increasing the timings that high removes all system stability concerns. What we're looking at is the limits of the silicon in terms of clock speed. So, the aim here was not to maximize system performance, just MHz.
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#3
Space Lynx
Astronaut
theGryphonWhat I understand is, increasing the timings that high removes all system stability concerns. What we're looking at is the limits of the silicon in terms of clock speed. So, the aim here was not to maximize system performance, just MHz.
Thank you for explaining. I am no longer interested in ram overclocking now lol
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#5
watzupken
Up to DDR5 6000, the latency can be between CL36 to 40. To push it to 8000+, that is a very steep latency penalty to pay. Not sure whether it is worth the while to push it to such an extend since the increase in latency will surely negate some of the performance gained from the increase speed.
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#6
Space Lynx
Astronaut
watzupkenUp to DDR5 6000, the latency can be between CL36 to 40. To push it to 8000+, that is a very steep latency penalty to pay. Not sure whether it is worth the while to push it to such an extend since the increase in latency will surely negate some of the performance gained from the increase speed.
so is ddr5 6000 cl 36 the equivalent to 3600 cl 14 of the old era? or is it a magnitude more expensive (assuming there was no shortage and both were MSRP)
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#7
theGryphon
lynx29Thank you for explaining. I am no longer interested in ram overclocking now lol
It's very very easy to get into diminishing returns with RAM OC. Too many trade offs. Better make sure that department is 100% stable and look into CPU and internal system clock OC, where higher observable performance gains can be made.
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#8
tabascosauz
With all those 8s and Chinese New Year just about to start within a week, I can tell they were aiming for this result :D one hell of a well-timed marketing effort for both companies, that's for sure.
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#10
Selaya
tabascosauzWith all those 8s and Chinese New Year just about to start within a week, I can tell they were aiming for this result :D one hell of a well-timed marketing effort for both companies, that's for sure.
here in the west we have an entire different, much more negative interpretation of 88 monkaSS
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#11
bug
Everyone owning a Z690 Apex, rejoice! :rolleyes:
(Interestingly enough, they didn't go for the Extreme.)
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#12
Prima.Vera
This would have been somehow interesting if the cooling was done on air, and timings around CL60, or even lower.
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#13
bug
Prima.VeraThis would have been some how interesting if the cooling was done on air, and timings around CL60, or even lower.
It's a new record, it doesn't care if you're interested of not :P

NB 8 is a symbol of luck in China, having 8 all over is meaningful.
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#14
diopter
Wake me up when they max out the stable speed of DDR5 and sell it at the same price I can get DDR4 3600 CL16 for. I will be holding back on AM5 until DDR5 matures.
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#16
bug
Just for kicks: try to find that RAM in the screenshot in the motherboard's QVL ;)
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#17
Vayra86
This is really infinite RAM speed using those numbers. I think they tried opening a gate to another dimension here. Didn't work out. Portal wasn't stable enough.
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#18
bug
Vayra86This is really infinite RAM speed using those numbers. I think they tried opening a gate to another dimension here. Didn't work out. Portal wasn't stable enough.
It most certainly did and an overclocking record is the world that has been pulled over our eye to blind us from the truth. Du-uh.
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#19
EatingDirt
lynx29so is ddr5 6000 cl 36 the equivalent to 3600 cl 14 of the old era? or is it a magnitude more expensive (assuming there was no shortage and both were MSRP)
In games, low latency DDR5 4800(CL30) would probably be as fast as DDR4 3600 CL14. It depends on how latency dependent verses bandwidth dependent the game is. In most cases we'll all be limited by our GPU or CPU well before we hit a RAM bottleneck in most games. www.techpowerup.com/review/ddr5-memory-performance-scaling/3.html

Until a sufficient supply of DDR5 exists we won't really know at what price DDR5 is going to end up being.
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#20
bug
EatingDirtIn games, low latency DDR5 4800(CL30) would probably be as fast as DDR4 3600 CL14. It depends on how latency dependent verses bandwidth dependent the game is. In most cases we'll all be limited by our GPU or CPU well before we hit a RAM bottleneck in most games. www.techpowerup.com/review/ddr5-memory-performance-scaling/3.html

Until a sufficient supply of DDR5 exists we won't really know at what price DDR5 is going to end up being.
If memory serves me well, DDR2 never beat DDR, DDR3 didn't beat DDR2 and DDR4 didn't beat DDR3. New memory always "wins" because the old doesn't get developed anymore and it stagnates and the new memory gets faster and faster. But at comparable speeds, old memory was always faster.
The only thing that changed is right off the bat the new memory is already available (sort of, not really) at higher speeds. Afair, it always took a year or more before we ever saw faster kits before.
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#21
Sabishii Hito
bugEveryone owning a Z690 Apex, rejoice! :rolleyes:
(Interestingly enough, they didn't go for the Extreme.)
2 slot/1DPC boards will almost always clock RAM higher than 4 slot/2DPC boards due to shorter trace length to the CPU.
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#22
bug
Sabishii Hito2 slot/1DPC boards will almost always clock RAM higher than 4 slot/2DPC boards due to shorter trace length to the CPU.
Good point, but do other traces have an influence if simply using the slot with the shortest traces?
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#23
Prima.Vera
diopterWake me up when they max out the stable speed of DDR5 and sell it at the same price I can get DDR4 3600 CL16 for. I will be holding back on AM5 until DDR5 matures.
You mean DDR5 7200 CL32 ? Probably that would never happen.
They seem to hit a wall on DDR 5-6000 with CL36 lowest possible for some reason.
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#24
Sabishii Hito
bugGood point, but do other traces have an influence if simply using the slot with the shortest traces?
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#25
EatingDirt
bugIf memory serves me well, DDR2 never beat DDR, DDR3 didn't beat DDR2 and DDR4 didn't beat DDR3. New memory always "wins" because the old doesn't get developed anymore and it stagnates and the new memory gets faster and faster. But at comparable speeds, old memory was always faster.
The only thing that changed is right off the bat the new memory is already available (sort of, not really) at higher speeds. Afair, it always took a year or more before we ever saw faster kits before.
Early RAM iterations are almost always slower in terms of latency. DDR4 has surpassed even the fastest DDR3 sticks in terms of latency now. DDR5 might never surpass DDR4 in latency, but it should eventually be developed to be close enough that it basically won't matter.
Prima.VeraYou mean DDR5 7200 CL32 ? Probably that would never happen.
They seem to hit a wall on DDR 5-6000 with CL36 lowest possible for some reason.
Latency doesn't mean everything. You can see that in the DDR5 scaling review that TPU did. Some games are in fact faster with more bandwidth.

That being said, the fastest DDR4 you could get at release was around 3200 CL16. Those kits were around $800 at release. Needless to say they no longer cost that much, and you can now easily get decent, affordable 3600 CL16 kits.

Everyone should expect DDR5 to get faster, cheaper and have lower latency over time. Will it ever have lower latency than DDR4? Probably not. Will it matter? Not enough for you to notice. So as long as you don't buy bargain basement DDR5(4800 CL40), you're unlikely to notice the loss in performance at 1440p+, as it's only around 2% less in the TPU test suite of games right now. www.techpowerup.com/review/ddr5-memory-performance-scaling/5.html
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