Thursday, August 4th 2022
Potential Ryzen 7000-series CPU Specs and Pricing Leak, Ryzen 9 7950X Expected to hit 5.7 GHz
It's pretty clear that we're getting very close to the launch of AMD's AM5 platform and the Ryzen 7000-series CPUs, with spec details and even pricing brackets tipping up online. Wccftech has posted what the publication believes will be the lineup we can expect to launch in just over a month's time, if rumours are to be believed. The base model is said to be the Ryzen 5 7600X, which the site claims will have a base clock of 4.7 GHz and a boost clock of 5.3 GHz. There's no change in processor core or thread count compared to the current Ryzen 5 5600X, but the L2 cache appears to have doubled, for a total of 38 MB of cache. This is followed by the Ryzen 7 7700X, which starts out a tad slower with a base clock of 4.5 GHz, but it has a slightly higher boost clock of 5.4 GHz. Likewise here, the core and thread count remains unchanged, while the L2 cache also gets a bump here for a total of 40 MB cache. Both these models are said to have a 105 W TDP.
The Ryzen 9 7900X is said to have a 4.7 GHz base clock and a 5.6 GHz boost clock, so a 200 MHz jump up from the Ryzen 7 7700X. This CPU has a total of 76 MB of cache. Finally the Ryzen 9 7950X is said to have the same base clock of 4.5 GHz as the Ryzen 7 7700X, but it has the highest boost clock of all the expected models at 5.7 GHz, while having a total of 80 MB cache. These two SKUs are both said to have a 170 W TDP. Price wise, from top to bottom, we might be looking at somewhere around US$700, US$600, US$300 and US$200, so it seems like AMD has adjusted its pricing downwards by around $100 on the low-end, with the Ryzen 7 part fitting the same price bracket as the Ryzen 7 5700X. The Ryzen 9 7900X seems to have had its price adjusted upwards slightly, while the Ryzen 9 7950X seems to be expected to be priced lower than its predecessors. Take these things with the right helping of scepticism for now, as things can still change before the launch.
Source:
Wccftech
The Ryzen 9 7900X is said to have a 4.7 GHz base clock and a 5.6 GHz boost clock, so a 200 MHz jump up from the Ryzen 7 7700X. This CPU has a total of 76 MB of cache. Finally the Ryzen 9 7950X is said to have the same base clock of 4.5 GHz as the Ryzen 7 7700X, but it has the highest boost clock of all the expected models at 5.7 GHz, while having a total of 80 MB cache. These two SKUs are both said to have a 170 W TDP. Price wise, from top to bottom, we might be looking at somewhere around US$700, US$600, US$300 and US$200, so it seems like AMD has adjusted its pricing downwards by around $100 on the low-end, with the Ryzen 7 part fitting the same price bracket as the Ryzen 7 5700X. The Ryzen 9 7900X seems to have had its price adjusted upwards slightly, while the Ryzen 9 7950X seems to be expected to be priced lower than its predecessors. Take these things with the right helping of scepticism for now, as things can still change before the launch.
277 Comments on Potential Ryzen 7000-series CPU Specs and Pricing Leak, Ryzen 9 7950X Expected to hit 5.7 GHz
It's pointlessly convoluted.
Saying something is $500 (MSRP) is easier because sales tax may or may not apply to your living location. Or maybe certain items aren't taxed and others are.
An example: Wisconsin has sales tax on clothing. Minnesota does not.
In MN the county/city I live in, the sales tax is 7.38%.
If I were to drive into Minneapolis (roughly 30 minutes, depending on weather & traffic), the sales tax there is 8.03%.
If I go into Hennepin county - which Minneapolis happens to be in - (depending on the direction I go from where I live, about 5-10 minutes for me to cross the county lines) the sales tax is 7.53%
Easiest way to think of MSRP for the US would be to add at least 10% to the cost. If something shows a MSRP of $500, assume most people will pay upwards of $550 after taxes.
After maturity, they've been great though. My system which was built nearly one year ago has had zero crashes (if I recall correctly), and I run my computers for many months without reboot. With the current level of inflation we (as consumers) should be happy if we see prices anywhere close to this. And if we do, and AMD can supply enogh chips, then they should move a huge volume of products. Achieving something like this would require very good engineering on top of an unusually well performing node.
Do you remember the Zen 2 rumors? At some point the >5 GHz hype was extreme, yet it turned out to be nonsense from a YouTube channel. So we'll see if the details of this article is true or not. IPC is just the average instructions per clock. There are many changes to CPUs which can improve IPC, yet it varies from workload to workload (sometimes even application) whether these improvements translates into increase performance. Typically, increases in execution units, SIMD, etc. have little impact on games but massive impact on video or software rendering, while improvements to prefetcher, cache, etc. typically have more impact on games, yet both of these impact IPC.
I believe Zen 4 will also increase L2 cache, so a matchup here will be quite interesting.
But as for 5800X3D being an "insane gaming chip", that's more than a little exaggerated. There are some games where the gains are very large, but for most of them the gains are marginal in realistic resolutions. We don't know whether this kind of boost from increased L3 will continue with future games, but we do know that software which exhibit this kind of behavior is caused by instruction cache misses, and any good programmer could tell you that misses in instruction cache is primarily due to software bloat. So my point is that designing a CPU with loads of L3 is a double-edged sword; it will "regain" some performance lost due to bad code, but it may also "encourage" bad software design?
I'm more interested in what AMD may use this stacking technology for in the future. If it's just to add more L3 cache, then it's almost a gimmick in the consumer space. But if this someday leads to a modular CPU design where you can have e.g. 8 cores, but you can choose between a "base" version for gaming or one with extra SIMD for multimedia etc., but seamlessly integrated through multi-layer chiplets, then I'm for it.
And yes, I too automatically calculate 10% overcharge when buying anything.
This is both ridiculous and callous price in Japan.
Can't see any pricing for that from here though.
Time to come visit isla formosa...
Basic 4800 MHz modules have been on sale here for as little as US$67 for 2x 8GB.
A pair of 6200 MHz V-Color Manta CL36 16 GB modules retail for US$263, which is about the same some 3600 MHz DDR4 low latency G.Skill modules are going for locally.
24h.pchome.com.tw/prod/DRAC0O-A900F2DCH?fq=/S/DRACC6
I have no idea about the latency on Zen 4 though. It is possible to maintain comparable latencies with good design and a good node, but we'll see.