Thursday, November 3rd 2022

AMD Announces the $999 Radeon RX 7900 XTX and $899 RX 7900 XT, 5nm RDNA3, DisplayPort 2.1, FSR 3.0 FluidMotion

AMD today announced the Radeon RX 7900 XTX and Radeon RX 7900 XT gaming graphics cards debuting its next-generation RDNA3 graphics architecture. The two new cards come at $999 and $899—basically targeting the $1000 high-end premium price point.
Both cards will be available on December 13th, not only the AMD reference design, which is sold through AMD.com, but also custom-design variants from the many board partners on the same day. AIBs are expected to announce their products in the coming weeks.

The RX 7900 XTX is priced at USD $999, and the RX 7900 XT is $899, which is a surprisingly small difference of only $100, for a performance difference that will certainly be larger, probably in the 20% range. Both Radeon RX 7900 XTX and RX 7900 XT are using the PCI-Express 4.0 interface, Gen 5 is not supported with this generation. The RX 7900 XTX has a typical board power of 355 W, or about 95 W less than that of the GeForce RTX 4090. The reference-design RX 7900 XTX uses conventional 8-pin PCIe power connectors, as would custom-design cards, when they come out. AMD's board partners will create units with three 8-pin power connectors, for higher out of the box performance and better OC potential. The decision to not use the 16-pin power connector that NVIDIA uses was made "well over a year ago", mostly because of cost, complexity and the fact that these Radeons don't require that much power anyway.

The reference RX 7900-series board design has the same card height as the RX 6950 XT, but is just 1 cm longer, at 28.7 cm. It is also strictly 2.5 slots thick. There's some white illuminated elements, which are controllable, using the same software as on the Radeon RX 6000 Series. Both cards feature two DisplayPort 2.1 outputs, one HDMI 2.1a and one USB-C.
This is AMD's first attempt at a gaming GPU made of chiplets (multiple logic dies on a multi-chip module). The company has built MCM GPUs in the past, but those have essentially been the GPU die surrounded by HBM stacks. The new "Navi 31" GPU at the heart of the RX 7900 XTX and RX 7900 XT features seven chiplets—a central large graphics compute die (GCD), surrounded by six memory control-cache dies (MCDs). The GCD is built on the TSMC 5 nm EUV silicon fabrication process—the same one on which AMD builds its "Zen 4" CCDs—while the MCDs are each fabricated on the TSMC 6 nm process.

The GCD contains the GPU's main graphics rendering machinery, including the front-end, the RDNA3 compute units, the Ray Accelerators, the display controllers, the media engine and the render backends. The GCD physically features 96 RDNA3 Unified Compute Units (CUs), for 6,144 stream processors. All 96 of these are enabled on the RX 7900 XTX. The RX 7900 XT has 84 out of 96 unified compute units enabled, which works out to 5,376 stream processors. The new RDNA3 next-generation compute unit introduces dual-issue stream processors, which essentially double their throughput generation-over-generation. This is a VLIW approach, AMD does not double the rated shader count though, so it's 6144 for the full GPU (96 CU x 64 shaders per CU, not 128 shaders per CU).

Each of the six MCDs contains a 64-bit wide GDDR6 memory interface, and 16 MB of Infinity Cache memory. Six of these MCDs add up to the GPU's 384-bit wide memory interface, and 96 MB of total Infinity Cache memory. The GCD addresses the 384-bit wide memory interface as a contiguous addressable block, and not 6x 64-bit. Most modern GPUs for the past decade have had multiple on-die memory controllers making up a larger memory interface, "Navi 31" moves these to separate chiplets. This approach reduces the size of the main GCD tile, which will help with yield rates. The Radeon RX 7900 XTX is configured with 24 GB of GDDR6 memory across the chip's entire 384-bit wide memory bus, while the RX 7900 XT gets 20 GB of GDDR6 memory across a 320-bit wide memory bus (one of the MCDs is disabled). The disabled MCD isn't not "missing", but there's some dummy silicon dies there to provide stability for the cooler mounting.

Each CU also features two AI acceleration components that provide a 2.7x uplift in AI inference performance over SIMD, and a second-generation RT accelerator that provides new dedicated instructions, and a 50% performance uplift in ray tracing performance. The AI cores are not exposed through software, software developers cannot use them directly (unlike NVIDIA's Tensor Cores), they are used exclusively by the GPU internal engines. Later today AMD will give us a more technical breakdown of the RDNA3 architecture.
For the RX 7900 XTX, AMD is broadly claiming an up to 70% increase in traditional raster 3D graphics performance over the previous-generation flagship RX 6950 XT at 4K Ultra HD native resolution; and an up to 60% increase in ray tracing performance. These gains should be good to catch RTX 4080, but AMD was clear that they are not targeting RTX 4090 performance, which comes at a much higher price point, too.
AMD is attributing its big 54% performance/Watt generational gains to a revolutionary asynchronous clock domain technology that runs the various components on the GCD at different frequencies, to minimize power draw. This seems similar in concept to the "shader clock" on some older NVIDIA architectures.
AMD also announced FSR 3.0, the latest generation of its performance enhancement, featuring Fluid Motion technology. This is functionally similar to DLSS 3 Frame Generation, promising a 100% uplift in performance at comparable quality—essentially because the GPU is generating every alternate frame without involving its graphics rendering pipeline.
The new dual-independent media-acceleration engines enable simultaneous encode and decode for AVC and HEVC formats; hardware-accelerated encode and decode for AV1, and AI-accelerated enhancements. The new AMD Radiance Display Engine introduces native support for DisplayPort 2.1, with 54 Gbps display link bandwidth, and 12 bpc color. This enables resolutions of up to 8K @ 165 Hz with a single cable; or 4K @ 480 Hz with a single cable.
The "Navi 31" GPU in its full configuration has a raw compute throughput of 61 TFLOPs, compared to 23 TFLOPs of the RDNA2-based Navi 21 (a 165% increase). The shader and front-end of the GPU operate at different clock speeds, with the shaders running at up to 2.30 GHz, and the front-end at up to 2.50 GHz. This decoupling has a big impact on power-savings, with AMD claiming a 25% power-saving as opposed to running both domains at the same 2.50 GHz clock.
AMD claims the Radeon RX 7900 XTX to offer a 70% performance increase over the RX 6950 XT.

The complete slide-deck follows.
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336 Comments on AMD Announces the $999 Radeon RX 7900 XTX and $899 RX 7900 XT, 5nm RDNA3, DisplayPort 2.1, FSR 3.0 FluidMotion

#251
mahoney
AusWolfThey showed what they intended the 7900 XTX for, which is 8K gaming at 60+ FPS thanks to FSR. If it's not a 4090 competitor, then there's no point comparing it to the 4090, is there? ;)

Like I said, I don't recall Nvidia showing more numbers and AMD comparisons during their product launches, yet no one complains.
But then why did they compare the 6900xt to the 3090. I'll tell you why because it was on almost equal terms performance wise. Tells you alot about RDNA3 which was supposed to be the this big performance leap with AMD taking the lead with having the fastest gpu on the market. Nvidia were proudly saying what an amazing performance leap the 4090 is gonna be yet nobody believed their bullshit marketing until the reviewers got the cards in their hands.
Zach_01That is your interpretation and you're entitled to...
Show off is for juveniles and school kids.

A direct comparison to competition is not a show off. They didnt do it because they've decided to take the efficiency road this time. Less cost on power delivery, coolers... etc... And they probably going to come close to 4090 without braking the bank.
Anything wrong about that?

Their design (from RDNA2 and on) is cheap and probably they kept their profit margins high since they've made it even more production efficient with the cache chiplets.

nVidia does not have a direct product on the market right now for that price range so there is no point to show slides where they are below the competition even if they priced it at 60% of the 4090.
Prices are forgotten more easily than raw performance on slides.

I guess marketing is not for everybody...
Then what is AMD? They were literally throwing shades at Nvidia all night and then had nothing to show for it. What does that tell about them? :roll:
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#252
AusWolf
mahoneyBut then why did they compare the 6900xt to the 3090. I'll tell you why because it was on almost equal terms performance wise. Tells you alot about RDNA3 which was supposed to be the this big performance leap with AMD taking the lead with having the fastest gpu on the market.
Who said that? And why would you want a $999 graphics card to be faster than a $1600 one? You're not making much sense.
mahoneyNvidia were proudly saying what an amazing performance leap the 4090 is gonna be yet nobody believed their bullshit marketing until the reviewers got the cards in their hands.
...which also comes with an insane price tag, a 4-slot cooler, a new, but fragile power connector, and a TDP that's in outer space. AMD is taking the opposite route this time, that's why you see no comparison.
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#253
Zach_01
mahoneyThen what is AMD? They were literally throwing shades at Nvidia all night and then had nothing to show for it. What does that tell about them? :roll:
So they aren't allowed to talk about new features of their product? What's that about?

And yes, you're not making much sense and I'm lead to believe that you're here just for bash and complains for the sake of it.
And please find me 1 official AMD statement prior to RX7000 presentation that they claimed the raw performance crown...
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#254
AusWolf
mahoneyThen what is AMD? They were literally throwing shades at Nvidia all night and then had nothing to show for it. What does that tell about them? :roll:
Scott H. said that the 7900 series won't need a new power connector and that it fits into your current case. I wouldn't really say it was "all night". More like 2 minutes (which is perfectly sensible, imo).
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#255
mahoney
Zach_01So they aren't allowed to talk about new features of their product? What's that about?

And yes, you're not making much sense and I'm lead to believe that you're here just for bash and complains for the sake of it.
And please find me 1 official AMD statement prior to RX7000 presentation that they claimed the raw performance crown...
Most of their presentation was bs. 8k gaming - bs, display port - bs for this gen, new monitor commercial - bs again. Then they threw in some FPS numbers for the 7900xtx. I mean the whole presentation was a nightmare.
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#256
AusWolf
mahoneyMost of their presentation was bs. 8k gaming - bs, display port - bs for this gen, new monitor commercial - bs again. Then they threw in some FPS numbers for the 7900xtx. I mean the whole presentation was a nightmare.
You don't care about 8K gaming. Neither do I. But if that's what the 7900 series is targeted at, then why should they waste time talking about something else?

Edit: Besides, I also don't care if the 7900 XTX can do 500 or 600 FPS in CS:GO at 1080p. I'm more interested in the technical titbits which will trickle down to cheaper 7000-series cards, too. From this point of view, it was a good presentation, as it had plenty of it (chiplet design, reworked architecture, FSR 3.0, power efficiency, etc.).
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#257
Zach_01
AusWolfYou don't care about 8K gaming. Neither do I. But if that's what the 7900 series is targeted at, then why should they waste time talking about something else?
People demand slides of FPS...
Well they have to wait for reviews.

I mean what ever AMD could have done the bashing was 100% sure.
I guess they did disrupt the market after all with those prices and the claimed performance over their own previous gen.
Checked!
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#258
AusWolf
Zach_01People demand slides of FPS...
Well they have to wait for reviews.
Which has always been the case during every single product launch. I don't see how this one is different.
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#259
medi01

AusWolfAre you saying that AMD's $999 graphics card is shit
I'm saying you have amazing reading comprehension skillz.... :roll:
mahoneyIf it was really that close they'd have shown benchmarks - they always did
Lies. They've never did that.
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#260
AusWolf
medi01I'm saying you have amazing reading comprehension skillz.... :roll:
It wasn't clear from your post whether you're attacking or defending. All you wrote is some extrapolated data (which is fine). That's why I was asking. There's no need for insults.
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#261
medi01
AusWolfIt wasn't clear from your post whether you're attacking or defending.
I've just shared elaborate perf estimates. Why does it need to be attacking or defending?
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#262
AusWolf
medi01I've just shared elaborate perf estimates. Why does it need to be attacking or defending?
Fair enough. :)
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#263
mahoney
AusWolfYou don't care about 8K gaming. Neither do I. But if that's what the 7900 series is targeted at, then why should they waste time talking about something else?

Edit: Besides, I also don't care if the 7900 XTX can do 500 or 600 FPS in CS:GO at 1080p. I'm more interested in the technical titbits which will trickle down to cheaper 7000-series cards, too. From this point of view, it was a good presentation, as it had plenty of it (chiplet design, reworked architecture, FSR 3.0, power efficiency, etc.).
Are you joking? It's a gimmick just like Nvidia did it in the past. Even GN called them out for that bullshit
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#264
Blaeza
I like the cards they are going to release. Not that I'll get one but it does seem better value for money if you just want a rasterisation based GPU.
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#265
mahoney
medi01



I'm saying you have amazing reading comprehension skillz.... :roll:


Lies. They've never did that.
I've already posted facts a few pages back.
They showed benchmarks 6000 series, 5000 series, Radeon 7 and Vega. That's going 6 years back
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#266
AusWolf
mahoneyAre you joking? It's a gimmick just like Nvidia did it in the past. Even GN called them out for that bullshit
GN calls everybody out for literally everything. That's what they do.

Just see the rest of my post as an answer: the video was also full of technical bits that I'm interested in, without shit-talking about the competition. That's my conclusion.
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#267
mahoney
AusWolfGN calls everybody out for literally everything. That's what they do.

Just see the rest of my post as an answer: the video was also full of technical bits that I'm interested in, without shit-talking about the competition. That's my conclusion.
Because it was an absolute shit take from AMD. Do you seriously believe a card that's significantly slower at 4k vs 4090 is gonna be considered an 8k card? Who's the dumbo here? AMD or their fanboys?
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#268
AusWolf
mahoneyBecause it was an absolute shit take from AMD. Do you seriously believe a card that's significantly slower at 4k vs 4090 is gonna be considered an 8k card? Who's the dumbo here? AMD or their fanboys?
The presentation showed that the 7900 XTX can do 8K 60 FPS with some level of FSR applied. You can appreciate this, or not, but this has nothing to do with the 4090 whatsoever.

A lot of GN's "calling out" is pointless shit-talk about miniscule details just for the views. Whether this one is one of those or not, I'll leave it up to individual judgement (I personally think it is).
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#269
mahoney
AusWolfThe presentation showed that the 7900 XTX can do 8K 60 FPS with some level of FSR applied. You can appreciate this, or not, but this has nothing to do with the 4090 whatsoever.

A lot of GN's "calling out" is pointless shit-talk about miniscule details just for the views. Whether this one is one of those or not, I'll leave it up to individual judgement.
Because it is a joke yet some of you can't even see it. That's exactly why the whole presentation was so stupid.
-Throwing shades at Nvidia every chance they got and making their fanboys think the 7900xtx was actually super fast to then not even compare it with nvidia's gpu.
- Ridiciliously stupid presentations - 8k gaming, the display port 800hz, throwing 7900xtx fps out and making viewers guess what they were meant to be(max,avg?),
- That monitor advertisement :roll:
-Not bothering with showing their cherrypicked benchmarks vs any of their old flagships or Nvidia's.
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#270
kapone32
Wouldn't it be funny if AMD is sandbagging the performance. The trend in GPUs is that AMD shows the performance vs what was released and Nvidia "release" a Super or brand new card to respond. This time Nvidia will not know the performance of these cards until 2 weeks before Xmas. Looking at it as objectively as possible the specs it should translate to a very fast card compared to 6000. If AMD's claims ring true we will see 50% more performance per watt. The thing about that is that these cards use more power as well. At the least I expect any Game to play at 4K
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#271
Zach_01
kapone32Wouldn't it be funny if AMD is sandbagging the performance. The trend in GPUs is that AMD shows the performance vs what was released and Nvidia "release" a Super or brand new card to respond. This time Nvidia will not know the performance of these cards until 2 weeks before Xmas. Looking at it as objectively as possible the specs it should translate to a very fast card compared to 6000. If AMD's claims ring true we will see 50% more performance per watt. The thing about that is that these cards use more power as well. At the least I expect any Game to play at 4K
I think that AMD has more in the sandbag.
AIB 7900XT/XTX can push power/performance further to match or exceed 4090 rasterization performance and when the 4090Ti comes they can present a 7950XTX with even higher clocks, more compute units, more infinity cache, and faster GDDR6, and do it all over again.
If 4090Ti FE is in the 550~600W region its not all that bad if AMD can go right next to it (500~550W) right?

From my perspective AMD has more options and more head room for improvement at least for now, comparing the RTX40 vs RX7000.
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#272
AsRock
TPU addict
AusWolfI still think comparing to the rival in a launch presentation is a sign of inferiority.

It's like comparing your muscles, your car, (your penis), etc. to someone else's. Only insecure people do that. When you know you've got what it takes, you just don't care.
Thing is they attacked nVidia but when it came to make a real show of how good the 7900XTX was a fail performance wise, on top of that they went chip-let to make it cheaper but the price is still hiked up.

They should be ashamed on the detail release on the card(s), they acted like kids.
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#273
kapone32
AsRockThing is they attacked nVidia but when it came to make a real show of how good the 7900XTX was a fail performance wise, on top of that they went chip-let to make it cheaper but the price is still hiked up.

They should be ashamed on the detail release on the card(s), they acted like kids.
Time will tell if your sentiment holds true
Zach_01I think that AMD has more in the sandbag.
AIB 7900XT/XTX can push power/performance further to match or exceed 4090 rasterization performance and when the 4090Ti comes they can present a 7950XTX with even higher clocks, more compute units, more infinity cache, and faster GDDR6, and do it all over again.
If 4090Ti FE is in the 550~600W region its not all that bad if AMD can go right next to it (500~550W) right?

From my perspective AMD has more options and more head room for improvement at least for now, comparing the RTX40 vs RX7000.
I didn't even think about that. Didn;t they increase the Infinty cache size? That alone should have benefits,
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#274
TheoneandonlyMrK
AsRockThing is they attacked nVidia but when it came to make a real show of how good the 7900XTX was a fail performance wise, on top of that they went chip-let to make it cheaper but the price is still hiked up.

They should be ashamed on the detail release on the card(s), they acted like kids.
It wasn't the best performance preview, but it was an Architectural pr release, I would also say that both companies tend to make quick and big stride's in driver development over the first few months of a new architecture release.
It might make sense to let later reviews on newer driver's speak directly of its performance close to release on better driver's from AMD pov.

I believe they went chiplets to make they're cards viable while also advancing they're knowledge on 2.5D and 3D complexes and clearly were not ready for side by side GPU tile's, so a baby step with MCD and GCD was produced, imagine the same chip monolithic, it would have been big, expensive and in the same performance band anyway but, it would also likely have been 1600£, a harder sell.
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#275
AusWolf
mahoney-Throwing shades at Nvidia every chance they got and making their fanboys think the 7900xtx was actually super fast to then not even compare it with nvidia's gpu.
Because there's no direct competition to Nvidia this time around. I thought we've already established that.
mahoney- Ridiciliously stupid presentations - 8k gaming, the display port 800hz, throwing 7900xtx fps out and making viewers guess what they were meant to be(max,avg?),
It's a technological presentation aimed at DP 2.0. If you've seen a product launch video from any company that specifies whether demonstrated FPS numbers are avg or max, please show me. I haven't.
mahoney- That monitor advertisement :roll:
They needed that to justify DP 2.0. You don't care about it, I don't care about it, we're free to move on and look at other things.
mahoney-Not bothering with showing their cherrypicked benchmarks vs any of their old flagships or Nvidia's.
Because they're not aiming against old flagships. They're releasing a product on its own merits. Besides, if they compared against old Nvidia products, that would only signal that they're behind which is not necessarily the case (at least technologically), regardless of raw performance data.

Edit: But they actually did show comparisons against the 6950 XT.
AsRockThing is they attacked nVidia but when it came to make a real show of how good the 7900XTX was a fail performance wise, on top of that they went chip-let to make it cheaper but the price is still hiked up.

They should be ashamed on the detail release on the card(s), they acted like kids.
How is it a fail? Do you know something that the rest of us don't?
kapone32This time Nvidia will not know the performance of these cards until 2 weeks before Xmas.
This is probably why they didn't give more detailed performance numbers. They didn't want Nvidia to gain the upper hand by knowing what they're up to. Nvidia still hasn't released the 4080 after all. Imagine if the 7900 XTX ends up being faster than the $1200 4080. I'm not saying that it will be, but it might be.
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