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More AMD Ryzen 9000 "Zen 5" Desktop Processor Details Emerge

AMD is looking to debut its Ryzen 9000 series "Granite Ridge" desktop processors based on the "Zen 5" microarchitecture some time around May-June 2024, according to High Yield YT, a reliable source with AMD leaks. These processors will be built in the existing Socket AM5 package, and be compatible with all existing AMD 600 series chipset motherboards. It remains to be seen if AMD debuts a new line of motherboard chipsets. Almost all Socket AM5 motherboards come with the USB BIOS flashback feature, which means motherboards from even the earliest production batches that are in the retail channel, should be able to easily support the new processors.

AMD is giving its next-gen desktop processors the Ryzen 9000 series processor model numbering, as it used the Ryzen 8000 series for its recently announced Socket AM5 desktop APUs based on the "Hawk Point" monolithic silicon. "Granite Ridge" will be a chiplet-based processor, much like the Ryzen 7000 series "Raphael." In fact, it will even retain the same 6 nm client I/O die (cIOD) as "Raphael," with some possible revisions made to increase its native DDR5 memory frequency (up from the current DDR5-5200), and improve its memory overclocking capabilities. It's being reported that DDR5-6400 could be the new "sweetspot" memory speed for these processors, up from the current DDR5-6000.
The "Granite Ridge" processor will feature one or two "Eldora" CPU complex dies (CCDs). Each CCD contains eight "Zen 5" CPU cores (aka "Nirvana" cores), each with 1 MB of L2 cache, and a yet undisclosed amount of on-die L3 cache. The "Zen 5" CCD will be built on the TSMC N4 (4 nm EUV) foundry node, the same node on which the company builds its "Hawk Point" monolithic silicon.

The "Zen 5" CPU core is expected by AMD to achieve a 10-15 percent IPC uplift over "Zen 4," which should put its gaming performance roughly comparable to those of Ryzen 7000X3D series processors, but without the 3D Vertical Cache, yielding higher headroom for clock speeds and overclocking. High Yield YT believes that a May-June launch of Ryzen 9000 "Granite Ridge" could give AMD free reign over the DIY gaming desktop market until Intel comes around to launch its next-generation Core "Arrow Lake-S" desktop processor in the Socket LGA1851 package, some time in September-October 2024, setting the stage for Ryzen 9000X3D processors by CES (January 2025).

It was recently reported that "Zen 5" processors are already in mass production, although this could refer to the "Eldora" CCD that makes its way not just to the "Granite Ridge" desktop processors, but also EPYC "Turin" server processors.
Sources: High Yield YT (Twitter), HotHardware
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85 Comments on More AMD Ryzen 9000 "Zen 5" Desktop Processor Details Emerge

#76
Super XP
ZEN 5 is likely to be a 30% or more IPC increase over ZEN 4.
That is something to be existed about.
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#77
beedoo
Super XPZEN 5 is likely to be a 30% or more IPC increase over ZEN 4.
That is something to be existed about.
Unless MLID is correct in that AMD hasn't met performance targets for both IPC and clock speed.
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#78
csendesmark
Assimilatorand preferably add more functionality (*cough* PCIe lanes *cough*).
Exactly, there are no info about the new chips are giving us more lanes, which they shoudl!
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#79
R0H1T
Super XPZEN 5 is likely to be a 30% or more IPC increase over ZEN 4.
Huh almost zero chance of that ~ the only universe where it's plausible is if you're counting gains from XPU or any dedicated hardware accelerated tasks for win12 or something! And that guy is a grade B con artist in selling BS theories :shadedshu:
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#80
Assimilator
The user you're replaying to is a grade A AMD fanboy, so a perfect match for MLID.
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#81
efikkan
beedooUnless MLID is correct in that AMD hasn't met performance targets for both IPC and clock speed.
1) AMD knows what IPC their chip should achieve even before tapeout, as they have simulated the design. There shouldn't be major deviations unless there are serious flaws in the design that has to be mitigated in the final steppings.
2) No one, including the best people at AMD, knows the final clock speeds before they have done thorough testing of the final stepping, which is usually very close to launch (2-3 months ahead if we're lucky). Early engineering samples are all over the place in terms of clock speeds and thermals, including the ones sent to motherboard vendors are usually intentionally incorrectly clocked.

We've been through this cycle before. Don't fall for the click-bait nonsense from nobodies on YouTube.
It's still going to be a while before we see leaks of the true performance.
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#82
Keelung
ZunexxxMight be the generation I switch from intel to AMD if arrowlake flops. 9950x3d it is! (If that is the actual name)
Me too. Because Intel official RAID driver support Windows only and I want to use native RAID in Linux.
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#83
Super XP
Super XPZEN 5 is likely to be a 30% or more IPC increase over ZEN 4.
That is something to be existed about.
I mean exited not existed lol
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#84
LazyGamer
Super XPI mean exited not existed lol
You mean "excited." :)

I was eyeballing 7800 X3D on Amazon couple days ago. To finally switch from my old i5 8600K. Which I clocked to 5GHz. But still, it is a 6 core/6 thread CPU that came out in 2017. Didn't order new CPU because it said delivery near end of May ffs. At this point I'll just wait for ZEN 5 to come out.
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#85
Super XP
LazyGamerYou mean "excited." :)

I was eyeballing 7800 X3D on Amazon couple days ago. To finally switch from my old i5 8600K. Which I clocked to 5GHz. But still, it is a 6 core/6 thread CPU that came out in 2017. Didn't order new CPU because it said delivery near end of May ffs. At this point I'll just wait for ZEN 5 to come out.
Yes I meant excited. My fast typing caused the error lol

The 7800X3D is probably the best gaming CPU to date. But to wait for May? I would try looking at Amazon and Newegg.
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