Friday, April 12th 2024

NVIDIA Points Intel Raptor Lake CPU Users to Get Help from Intel Amid System Instability Issues

According to a recently published help guide, spotted by the X/Twitter user @harukaze5719, NVIDIA has addressed reported stability problems users are experiencing with Intel's latest 13th and 14th generation Raptor Lake Core processors, especially the high-performance overclockable K-series models. In a recent statement, NVIDIA recommended that owners of the affected Intel CPUs consult directly with Intel if they encounter issues such as system instability, video memory errors, game crashes, or failures to launch certain applications. The problems seem particularly prevalent when running demanding workloads like gaming on Unreal Engine 5 titles or during shader compilation tasks that heavily utilize the processor and graphics capabilities. Intel has established a dedicated website to provide support for these CPU instability cases. However, the chipmaker still needs to issue a broad public statement and provide a definitive resolution.

The instability is often attributed to the very high frequencies and performance the K-series Raptor Lake chips are designed to achieve, which are among the fastest processors in Intel's lineup. While some community suggestions like undervolting or downclocking the CPUs may help mitigate issues in the short term, it remains unclear if permanent fixes will require BIOS updates from motherboard manufacturers or game patches.

Update: As the community has pointed out, motherboard makers often run the CPU outside of Intel's default spec, specifically causing overvolting through modifying or removing power limits, which could introduce instabilities into the system. Running the CPU at Intel-defined specification must be assured with a BIOS check to see if the CPU is running at specified targets. Intel programs the voltage curve into the CPU, and when motherboard makers remove any voltage/power limits, the CPU takes freedom in utilizing the available headroom, possibly causing system instability. We advise everyone to check the power limit setting in the BIOS for the health of their own system.
Sources: NVIDIA, via VideoCardz
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106 Comments on NVIDIA Points Intel Raptor Lake CPU Users to Get Help from Intel Amid System Instability Issues

#101
mkppo
sethmatrix7The dated and inefficient nature of their architecture absolutely forced Intel to push their processors to the extreme in order to match and in some scenarios exceed the competition.

Their top end CPUs thermal throttle right out of the box. They run over 100C under full load.

The frames per watt of their top end CPUs is not even HALF that of LAST generation AMD. Let alone Zen 4.

Their power consumption is higher than the equivalent AMD CPUs in productivity tasks, and the gap gets much bigger when it comes to gaming.

What about these facts says anything but "we had to match AMD with what we have right now"?
It's hilarious when 14900KS vs 7800X3D is compared in games. Less FPS for more than double the power. It's like they're two generations apart.

Built a custom 13900K/4090 loop for a mate with two 360 rads for gaming, because apparently he used some emulators which supposedly run better on intel. He's since switched to the 7800X3D after seeing the benches and it resulted in his games being faster because apparently the emulator thing is a thing of the past as the X3D chips rip it, but also because the GPU has more headroom with a few degrees lower water temps.

Even on non-extreme custom loops, the lower power draw is a big plus and many don't really get it.
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pressing on
phanbueyAsus aggressively overvolts and puts 4096W on turbo runtime. That's not unique to Intel though, they do that to AMD as well. Most of the stability and heat issues of the 13th and 14th gen were due to default motherboard settings.

Once you dial in the settings the chips run great.
A BIOS update for Intel motherboards has been released that "...introduces the Intel Baseline Profile option, allowing users to revert to Intel factory default settings for basic functionality, lower power limits, and improving stability in certain games".
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#103
THU31
pressing onA BIOS update for Intel motherboards has been released that "...introduces the Intel Baseline Profile option, allowing users to revert to Intel factory default settings for basic functionality, lower power limits, and improving stability in certain games".
And now time to redo all reviews for those CPUs. ;)

Many outlets will probably do a comparison, actually. There's kind of a content drought right now, with nothing new coming out.
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#104
dgianstefani
TPU Proofreader
THU31And now time to redo all reviews for those CPUs. ;)

Many outlets will probably do a comparison, actually. There's kind of a content drought right now, with nothing new coming out.
TPU already tests at stock, manual voltage/OC, and with power limits removed.



These are Intel stock settings, not motherboard "stock" by the way.
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phanbuey
mkppoIt's hilarious when 14900KS vs 7800X3D is compared in games. Less FPS for more than double the power. It's like they're two generations apart.
They basically are 2 generations apart -- it's a tweaked alder lake (2021) core on a fatter node with less cache.

It shouldn't really be able to be on the same chart, but they put 1.5V through it and viola.
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