Tuesday, October 8th 2024

Intel's Arrow Lake-S Launch Line-up Confirmed in New Leak

Intel's Arrow Lake-S launch line-up has been confirmed courtesy of serial leaker @9550pro on X/Twitter and although the leaked Intel product slide doesn't contain any real surprises by now, it does confirm that Intel will launch five different SKUs later this month. The Core 200S-series should be unveiled on Thursday by Intel, but retail availability isn't expected until the 24th of October. The Initial five CPU SKUs will be the Core Ultra 9 285K, the Core Ultra 7 265K and 265KF and finally the Core Ultra 5 245K and 245KF. As noted earlier today in the performance leak of the Core Ultra 9 285K, the entire Arrow Lake-S series will lack Hyper-Threading in favour of more E-cores. The Core Ultra 9 285K features eight Lion Cove P-cores and 16 Skymont E-cores, followed by the Core Ultra 7 265 SKUs which retain the Lion Cove core count, but ends up with only 12 Skymont cores. Finally, the Core Ultra 5 SKUs have six Lion Cove P-cores and eight Skymont E-cores. All the upcoming SKUs feature Intel's Thermal Velocity Boost, a feature that used to be exclusive to the Core i9 tier of CPUs in the past, but only the Core Ultra 9 and Ultra 7 SKUs support Intel Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0. The Core Ultra 9 and Ultra 7 SKUs have a maximum TDP of 250 W, with the Core Ultra 5 SKUs peaking at 159 W. All five processors have a base power of 125 W.

As such, we're looking at boost speeds of up to 5.7 GHz for the Core Ultra 9, 5.5 GHz for the Core Ultra 7 and 5.2 GHz for the Core Ultra 5 processors. The Core Ultra 5 has the highest base frequency of the three SKUs with the P-cores clocking in at 4.2 GHz and the E-cores at 3.6 GHz. The Core Ultra 7 follows at 3.9 GHz for the P-Cores and 3.3 GHz for the E-cores and finally the Core Ultra 9 has a base frequency of 3.7 GHz for the P-Cores and 3.2 GHz for the E-cores. Intel has upped the JEDEC memory support to DDR5-6400, which is an 800 MHz jump in the officially supported memory speed from its 14th Gen Core i processors. Up to 192 GB of RAM is supported, which is the same as the previous generation of desktop CPUs from Intel. The IGP sports four Xe-cores across the board of the K SKU CPUs, with a base clock of 300 MHz and a boost clock of up to 2 GHz, although the Core Ultra 5 SKUs end up with an IGP that only boosts to 1.9 GHz. All SKUs also feature a third generation NPU capable of 13 TOPS, which is a lot weaker than the mobile Core Ultra 200V Lunar Lake CPUs which have an NPU capable of up to 48 TOPS, depending on the SKU. As this leak appears to be from the same original source as the performance figures that leaked earlier, we'd assume the information is correct, especially as it lines up with earlier leaks, but it should still be taken with a pinch of salt until everything has been confirmed by Intel.
Source: @9550pro on X/Twitter
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23 Comments on Intel's Arrow Lake-S Launch Line-up Confirmed in New Leak

#1
Daven
The 125W P1 and 250W P2 (presumably) hasn't changed from Raptor Lake. Hopefully these are just lower and upper bounds but the real-world performance will be closer to P1.
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#2
bug
Really curious about how this turns out. My current i5 12600k has 6 high performance cores with HT and 4 E-cores. The 245k also gets 6 high performance cores, no HT, but 4 more E-cores. Seems a bit of a downgrade, at least on paper.
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#3
Chaitanya
Would be interesting to find out if thanks to CUDIMMs these CPUs can run with all 4 slots populated.
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#4
bug
ChaitanyaWould be interesting to find out if thanks to CUDIMMs these CPUs can run with all 4 slots populated.
It's a new design after a long while, many things will be interesting to find out. Unfortunately, Anandtech and their in-depth reviews are no longer around :cry:
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#5
Antique4106
I'm interested to see what the integrated graphics performance is like.. it obviously won't be stellar, but with twice as many shader cores as last gen, it seems to be a promising improvement (though I doubt it'll be too much of a contestant to the likes of the 8000G series, that's probably not the goal)
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#6
Dr. Dro
bugIt's a new design after a long while, many things will be interesting to find out. Unfortunately, Anandtech and their in-depth reviews are no longer around :cry:
Chips and Cheese will likely be covering the technical details, though. 13 TOPS seems a little weak on the NPU front, especially considered all the AI craze and Microsoft demanding 30+ for Copilot certification.
ChaitanyaWould be interesting to find out if thanks to CUDIMMs these CPUs can run with all 4 slots populated.
Reportedly CUDIMMs will be compatible with Raptor Lake as well. I'm hoping to be able to grab a 10K MT/s kit for my 13900KS when these come around.
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#7
Dristun
Antique4106I'm interested to see what the integrated graphics performance is like.. it obviously won't be stellar, but with twice as many shader cores as last gen, it seems to be a promising improvement (though I doubt it'll be too much of a contestant to the likes of the 8000G series, that's probably not the goal)
Arc A310 has 6 Xe cores with their own memory. These CPUs have 4 Xe cores and will have to make do with shared DDR5. You can extrapolate from the available results, it's going to be abysmal, just less abysmal than UHD770 before.
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#8
AnotherReader
bugReally curious about how this turns out. My current i5 12600k has 6 high performance cores with HT and 4 E-cores. The 245k also gets 6 high performance cores, no HT, but 4 more E-cores. Seems a bit of a downgrade, at least on paper.
The new E cores are very potent so it should be significantly faster than your 12600K despite lacking SMT for the P cores.
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#9
bug
AnotherReaderThe new E cores are very potent so it should be significantly faster than your 12600K despite lacking SMT for the P cores.
I know they're beefier. Still, it's lose 6 (semi) high perf cores, gain 4 E-cores in return. Intel probably know what they're doing, they just managed to pique my interest.
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#10
AnotherReader
Dr. DroChips and Cheese will likely be covering the technical details, though. 13 TOPS seems a little weak on the NPU front, especially considered all the AI craze and Microsoft demanding 30+ for Copilot certification.



Reportedly CUDIMMs will be compatible with Raptor Lake as well. I'm hoping to be able to grab a 10K MT/s kit for my 13900KS when these come around.
Chips and Cheese has analyzed both Skymontand Lion Cove in their Lunar Lake guise. Their counterparts in Arrow Lake will have higher performance due to higher clocks and more cache.
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#11
bug
DristunArc A310 has 6 Xe cores with their own memory. These CPUs have 4 Xe cores and will have to make do with shared DDR5. You can extrapolate from the available results, it's going to be abysmal, just less abysmal than UHD770 before.
I wouldn't call that "abysmal". It can show the desktop, play videos, let you surf the Internet just fine. Gaming? No IGP can help you there unless you're talking really old titles, really low settings or really low resolution. For me, the IGP is just a tick on the box and handy backup should I need to boot without a discrete GPU.
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#12
Dristun
bugI wouldn't call that "abysmal". It can show the desktop, play videos, let you surf the Internet just fine. Gaming? No IGP can help you there unless you're talking really old titles, really low settings or really low resolution. For me, the IGP is just a tick on the box and handy backup should I need to boot without a discrete GPU.
I mean, CS2 is playable on UHD770, I just tried a few days ago, haha. 900p with FSR is doable at above 60fps on all maps except Tera! With new iGPU I imagine it will be possible to bump that to 1080p with XESS. I disagree, however, because in my opinion it is still abysmal. 96EU battlemage would've been good. But that's just me.
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#13
Wirko
bugI know they're beefier. Still, it's lose 6 (semi) high perf cores, gain 4 E-cores in return. Intel probably know what they're doing, they just managed to pique my interest.
Now we're counting cores as if this matters. In the weeks ahead, we'll be counting Windows scheduler bugs because that really matters.
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#14
Chaitanya
Dr. DroReportedly CUDIMMs will be compatible with Raptor Lake as well. I'm hoping to be able to grab a 10K MT/s kit for my 13900KS when these come around.
CUDIMM are backwards compatible with DIMMs but with restriction apply, check MSI's X870 page on what restrictions apply on platforms not explicitly designed for CUDIMMs.
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#15
Minus Infinity
bugReally curious about how this turns out. My current i5 12600k has 6 high performance cores with HT and 4 E-cores. The 245k also gets 6 high performance cores, no HT, but 4 more E-cores. Seems a bit of a downgrade, at least on paper.
Those 8 Skymont E cores are far better than the 4 Gracemont E cores. Huge IPC uplift and faster clocks. I think 245K will beat 12600 even in most productivity apps and beat it handily in games. ST gives what 25-30% on average uplift. 4 Skymonts will beat and extra 1.8 (6 * 1.3 - 6) Golden cove P cores I think on average. I'm sure there'll be some apps where you get much larger ST performance and 12600 will win. I guess not too long before we find out.
Dr. DroChips and Cheese will likely be covering the technical details, though. 13 TOPS seems a little weak on the NPU front, especially considered all the AI craze and Microsoft demanding 30+ for Copilot certification.
Well that's 13TOPS more than Zen 5 gets! I'm not sure what the Xe+ cores provide on TOPS. Sad AMD didn't upgrade the iGPU on Zen 5. Still Arrow Lake missed out on Battlemage.
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#16
JWNoctis
CUDIMM, and processors with native support and the internal datapath bandwidth to make use of it will probably be as interesting as the E-core advancements here. Those E-cores are getting close to the P-cores in IPC.
Dr. DroChips and Cheese will likely be covering the technical details, though. 13 TOPS seems a little weak on the NPU front, especially considered all the AI craze and Microsoft demanding 30+ for Copilot certification.
Chips and Cheese has just been replatformed onto Substack. Remains to be seen what that would do to the content.
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#17
Nostras
I'm somewhat concerned about the longevity of 6 non-HTT P-cores. In some extreme gaming edge cases 6 HTT P-cores are already starting to show their limits iirc.
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#18
bug
NostrasI'm somewhat concerned about the longevity of 6 non-HTT P-cores. In some extreme gaming edge cases 6 HTT P-cores are already starting to show their limits iirc.
Neah, the E-cores are pretty powerful themselves. I think it will be fine. But I'm still waiting for benchmarks.
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#19
Mack4285
Antique4106I'm interested to see what the integrated graphics performance is like.. it obviously won't be stellar, but with twice as many shader cores as last gen, it seems to be a promising improvement (though I doubt it'll be too much of a contestant to the likes of the 8000G series, that's probably not the goal)
Seems they don't use the newer BattleMage, which is disappointing. They offer it for Lunar Lake, but not Arrow Lake. That can only make it less attractive, eat least for APU users.
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#20
Nostras
bugNeah, the E-cores are pretty powerful themselves. I think it will be fine. But I'm still waiting for benchmarks.
E-cores will hurt if gaming workload spills over to them methinks.
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#21
bug
NostrasE-cores will hurt if gaming workload spills over to them methinks.
Not necessarily. Plenty of threads in a game don't need top IPC. Many do, but not all.
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#22
phints
Yet another rumor, yet another leak, yet another "confirmation". We know Arrow Lake is coming, but so much clickbate from TPU and other sites it's sickening.

I imagine there will be no meaningful gaming difference between 285K, 265K and 265KF since they are all 8P and clocks are similar.
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#23
Antique4106
Mack4285Seems they don't use the newer BattleMage, which is disappointing. They offer it for Lunar Lake, but not Arrow Lake. That can only make it less attractive, eat least for APU users.
Certainly, though given that the even the Granite Ridge IGP still uses RDNA 2 (if I remember correctly, and a less potent design at that), it could still draw attention.
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