There's more surprises where that came from. :)

dj-electricThere's more surprises where that came from. :)

My guess is the reveal will be like RDNA2. Hiding the 6900XT (9080XT) until after everybody 'wowed' over the 6800XT (9070XT).

They probably added it before they decided not to compete in the high-end and were too lazy to remove it.

XT is already 'full fat'. At best, an XTX SKU would be better-binned for clocking.

If the memory/controller is compatible, I could see a mid-run refresh (ala RX XX50) with faster VRAM and higher core clocks, but that's about it...

N-Chungus hiding in the wings.

If only...

LabRat 891XT is already 'full fat'. At best, an XTX SKU would be better-binned for clocking.

If the memory/controller is compatible, I could see a mid-run refresh (ala RX XX50) with faster VRAM and higher core clocks, but that's about it...

What I wrote earlier explained my thinking similar to this as well (based on the Videocardz article which explained the situation differently; that XT models were an 'XTX chip'; in that case you would be right),

Hence why I deleted it, as what TPU is saying *could* make it correct; If the top is XT, there could be a XTX.

It would be weird to have a 'xtx' with simply those improvements, I agree, and therefore what you are saying (and I was saying before) could still be correct, but who knows...maybe an XTX has more shaders/rops.
Given the die size, I would kinda-sorta hope something like that is the case, but it's impossible to know until we see some reviews (for clock potential/power at those clocks) and/or a microscope shot/die diagram.

I would think what you're saying is most-likely correct under most circumstances, but it's also possible AMD might be launching these things in a very weird order to make the most out of one chip.
Maybe the vanilla is really a 'GRE', the XT a 'vanilla', and the XTX/'9080' a 'XT' (by typical standards). That's one way they could go about it, I suppose; unconventional but it could make sense.
Especially when N31 is still *technically* on the market...at least right now. Given N32 was planned to stay in production until Q3 (but was instead stopped Q1), it's possible N31 might stay in production until then.

Perhaps that was when they will launch such a card, or perhaps that was their original plan. I do not know if N31 has stopped production; only N32 and 7900 GRE.
I have to imagine it'll go hand-in-hand against a 24GB 5080 refresh, both conceivably more-or-less splitting the (time) difference between the 50 series original launch and when we'll see 3nm parts.

That's just speculation, as it's fairly-impossible to know for sure (if not the people actually calling those shots; which I ain't), but it would make the most sense, imo.

It looks like a magic brick.

I wonder how long till they start to look like microwave ovens :laugh:

freeagentIt looks like a magic brick.

I wonder how long till they start to look like microwave ovens :laugh:

We've got to move these refrigerators. We've got to move these color teeveeeees.

In all honesty, no matter the case; wither more units or simply high-as-hell clocks, the power density is going to be enormous.
Theoretically, if you look at current coolers, they'd be okay...but I expect some monsters on whatever the highest-end model turns out to be. Even more-so a brick if they keep a short board design.

On Navi 21, the XTX was the 6900 XT, the XT the 6800 XT, and the XL the 6800.

Judging by that, Navi 48 XTX is the 9070 XT, Navi 48 XT is the 9070, and Navi 48 XL is the 9060 XT.

AusWolfOn Navi 21, the XTX was the 6900 XT, the XT the 6800 XT, and the XL the 6800.

Judging by that, Navi 48 XTX is the 9070 XT, Navi 48 XT is the 9070, and Navi 48 XL is the 9060 XT.

I believe you are correct, or very close.

I could see both XT and XTX Navi 48 bins offered to AIBs for their RX 9070 XT production, with the AIB's option to pay more for the XTX binnings. -Specifically, for their 'halo mid-tier' cards (Nitro+, Red Devil, etc.).

Regardless, TPU will likely be updating the GPUdb; once, people have cards in-hand and are submitting vBIOS rips.
Maybe, we'll have 2 entries for the RX 9070 XT w/ 2 different chips? :confused:


but... what do we know? AMD already decided to tableflip their own codename stack. :laugh:

LabRat 891I believe you are correct, or very close.

I could see both XT and XTX Navi 48 bins offered to AIBs for their RX 9070 XT production, with the AIB's option to pay more for the XTX binnings. -Specifically, for their 'halo mid-tier' cards (Nitro+, Red Devil, etc.).

The same way Nvidia did with chips like the TU1xxA (factory overclock enabled) and TU1xx (factory overclock not permitted)? That's likely, too.