Wednesday, November 22nd 2023

Intel Core Ultra 7 155H iGPU Outperforms AMD Radeon 780M, Comes Close to Desktop Intel Arc A380

Intel is slowly preparing to launch its next-generation Meteor Lake mobile processor family, dropping the Core i brand name in favor of Core Ultra. Today, we are witnessing some early Geekbench v6 benchmarks with the latest leak of the Core Ultra 7 155H processor, boasting an integrated Arc GPU featuring 8 Xe-Cores—the complete configuration expected in the GPU tile. This tile is also projected to be a part of the more potent Core 9 Ultra 185H CPU. The Intel Core Ultra 7 155H processor has been benchmarked in the new ASUS Zenbook 14, which houses a 16-core and 22-thread hybrid CPU configuration capable of boosting up to 4.8 GHz. Paired with 32 GB of memory, the configuration was well equipped to supply CPU and GPU with sufficient memory space.

Perhaps the most interesting information from the submission was the OpenCL score of the GPU. Clocking in at 33948 points in Geekbench v6, the GPU is running over AMD's Radeon 780M GPU found in APU solutions like AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS and Ryzen 9 7940U, which scored 30585 and 27345 points in the same benchmark, respectively. The GPU tile is millimeters away from closing the gap between itself and the desktop Intel Arc A380 discrete GPU, which scored 37105 points for less than a 10% difference. The Xe-LPG GPU version is bringing some interesting performance points for the integrated GPU platform, which means that Intel's Meteor Lake SKUs will bring more performance/watt than ever.
Source: VideoCardz
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39 Comments on Intel Core Ultra 7 155H iGPU Outperforms AMD Radeon 780M, Comes Close to Desktop Intel Arc A380

#1
Nhonho
Time to go back to buying Intel APUs.
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#2
Prima.Vera
How does this compare with a dedicated nvidia 3050 mobile, for example?

Edit.
nvm:
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#3
ymbaja
Amd apus have been stagnant for way too long. Maybe this will cause them to get off their duff.
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#4
Assimilator
Geekbench results are about as useful as pissing in the wind.
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#5
Tropick
AssimilatorGeekbench results are about as useful as pissing in the wind.
This exactly, until we see either 3DMark synthetics or better yet real gameplay numbers we don't know squat. Theoretical performance does not necessarily translate to tangible performance.
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#6
TumbleGeorge
It is already known that AMD Phoenix models with 12 CUs are severely hampered in terms of graphics performance by the low RAM speed. So, in the niche of integrated graphics, the top models seem to be competing to see who can best take advantage of the slow memory and mitigate the bandwidth shortage as much as possible with a large and fast cache...
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#7
R0H1T
So Intel's looking to kill the rest of our 2 brain cells with this inane naming scheme :wtf:

The other two trillion^2 killed by TikTok obviously :slap:
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#8
Dristun
R0H1TSo Intel's looking to kill the rest of our 2 brain cells with this inane naming scheme :wtf:

The other two trillion^2 killed by TikTok obviously :slap:
This naming scheme is somehow even worse than the one before it, I can't imagine why their PM and PR people signed it off.

It's a shame that integrated graphics in desktop CPUs will still be getting the most cut-down piece of junk imaginable instead of a decent unit like here.
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#9
Solaris17
Super Dainty Moderator
I wont read anything containing geekbench seriously, but I was planning on replacing my 7550u with a 155H. This is the generation I'll replace my laptop.
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#10
Assimilator
DristunThis naming scheme is somehow even worse than the one before it, I can't imagine why their PM and PR people signed it off.

It's a shame that integrated graphics in desktop CPUs will still be getting the most cut-down piece of junk imaginable instead of a decent unit like here.
On desktop you have the option of upgrading to a dGPU if the iGPU doesn't cut it. On mobile you don't have that option, although Thunderbolt and eGPUs are fast changing that.
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#11
Dristun
AssimilatorOn desktop you have the option of upgrading to a dGPU if the iGPU doesn't cut it. On mobile you don't have that option, although Thunderbolt and eGPUs are fast changing that.
I'd definitely consider an Intel APU (a competitor to 5700G), hence the sentiment. I had a poor experience with 2400G but think the idea attractive.
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#12
Tek-Check
This is as rumoured before, around 10% faster than Phoenix; one year later...
Hawk Point is just around the corner...
And then Strix 6 months later.
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#13
thesmokingman
AssimilatorGeekbench results are about as useful as pissing in the wind.
When you see Geekbench, just close.
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#14
TumbleGeorge
Tek-CheckThis is as rumoured before, around 10% faster than Phoenix; one year later...
Hawk Point is just around the corner...
And then Strix 6 months later.
Huh, if all that's talked about is food. All sorts of nonsense is mentioned about the Strix, including 4-channel RAM access. Which is not going to happen. It's not that it isn't technically feasible, it's just that someone has to make a whole new platform just for Strix.
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#15
ToTTenTranz
Geekbench OpenCL benchmark is designed to measure FP32 throughput (using very predictable and simple operations) without looking at a ton of stuff that is crucial in games such as register and cache latency.

For example, in this benchmark the A770 scores roughly around the same as the RX 6750XT (105k), but then in games the latter runs 20-30% faster.

Furthermore, in the case of an APU in real-life loads that GPU will be competing with the CPU for power and memory bandwidth. Combine that with the fact that the Redwood Cove cores are a lot less power-efficient than Zen4, and that Xe iGPU is going to have a harder time maintaining those 2.25GHz clocks.
TumbleGeorgeAll sorts of nonsense is mentioned about the Strix, including 4-channel RAM access. Which is not going to happen.
Strix Halo is 256bit with a ton of Infinity Cache, 40CU RDNA3.5 GPU, 8+8 Zen5 cores and starts at 25W minimum.

Meteor Lake is probably going to compete with Strix Point, which is an evolution of Phoenix with 4 Zen5 + 8 Zen5c, 16 CU RDNA3.5 and 128bit LPDDR5X.
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#16
Flanker
Interesting. Now I want to see what framerates they get in games
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#17
R0H1T
ToTTenTranzStrix Halo is 256bit with a ton of Infinity Cache, 40CU RDNA3.5 GPU, 8+8 Zen5 cores and starts at 25W minimum.
If it does come to mass market it certainly won't be competing with anything Intel for at least 2 years, from now, it's competition is Apple's Mx or Snapdragon Elite X(?) with top of the line specs & margins! I think ultimately its future would depend a lot on how AMD provisions capacity/margins for their desktop/server chips & then laptops. Because the other two are basically interchangeable, this is a monolithic die IIRC.
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#18
john_
Intel GPUs do nicely in benchmarks, how about games?
That being said, we expect AMD to push Nvidia for better GPUs, we expect Intel to push AMD for better iGPUs.
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#19
Evildead666
DristunThis naming scheme is somehow even worse than the one before it, I can't imagine why their PM and PR people signed it off.

It's a shame that integrated graphics in desktop CPUs will still be getting the most cut-down piece of junk imaginable instead of a decent unit like here.
They're probably Intel "Fellows" who took a truckload of Acid back in the day, and are now getting the flashbacks. ;)
That's the only way I can explain their naming schemes...
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#21
TumbleGeorge
ToTTenTranzStrix Halo is 256bit
And it's motherboard with 4 channels for Strix Halo is invisible because no exists.
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#22
Vayra86
Every time you start your PC with this chip in it, it will say 'ISSH'

Dafuq, Intel. Seriously. 155h. Why not ICU7155HCPUIGP, so we literally can't read it proper.
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#23
GodisanAtheist
ymbajaAmd apus have been stagnant for way too long. Maybe this will cause them to get off their duff.
- I've wondered why AMD doesn't throw iGPUs an Infinity Cache bone. When I saw IC as a concept my first thought was "this is perfect for APUs, their whole deal is being memory constrained" and yet here we are years later, no IC on any APUs.

It seems like a very simple solution to squeeze additional performance out of the existing arch, since adding more CUs wouldn't take AMD anywhere and who knows how much efficiency there is to extract after three revisions of RDNA.
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#24
mechtech
ymbajaAmd apus have been stagnant for way too long. Maybe this will cause them to get off their duff.
hmmm

Well if it wasn't for AMD's half decent igpu, Intel would probably be running a prescott era igpu still. So good for competition. Maybe this will spur a decent igpu race.............
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#25
Borc
Tek-CheckThis is as rumoured before, around 10% faster than Phoenix; one year later...
Hawk Point is just around the corner...
And then Strix 6 months later.
Hawk Point is a refresh - same GPU+CPU and same process node. What do you expect from this? Strix Point is scheduled for H2 2024, means it comes late 2024 to early 2025 in a meaningful volume. We basically can add 6 months to the release date of a new mobile generation from AMD. Arrow Lake is around the corner when this comes out.
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