Tuesday, July 16th 2024

AMD Granite Ridge and Strix Point Zen 5 Die-sizes and Transistor Counts Confirmed

AMD is about give the new "Zen 5" microarchitecture a near-simultaneous launch across both its client segments—desktop and mobile. The desktop front is held by the Ryzen 9000 "Granite Ridge" Socket AM5 processors; while Ryzen AI 300 "Strix Point" powers the company's crucial effort to capture Microsoft Copilot+ AI PC market share. We recently did a technical deep-dive on the two. HardwareLuxx.de scored two important bits of specs for both processors in its Q&A interaction with AMD—die sizes and transistor counts.

To begin with, "Strix Point" is a monolithic silicon, which is confirmed to be built on the TSMC N4P foundry node (4 nm). This is a slight upgrade over the N4 node that the company built its previous generation "Phoenix" and "Hawk Point" processors on. The "Strix Point" silicon measures 232.5 mm² in area, which is significantly larger than the 178 mm² of "Hawk Point" and "Phoenix." The added die area comes from there being 12 CPU cores instead of 8, and 16 iGPU compute units instead of 12; and a larger NPU. There are many other factors, such as the larger 24 MB CPU L3 cache; and the sizes of the "Zen 5" and "Zen 5c" cores themselves.
The "Granite Ridge" desktop processor is a chiplet-based processor, much like the Ryzen 7000 "Raphael." AMD is confirmed to be reusing the 6 nm client I/O die (cIOD) from "Raphael." This chip measures 122 mm², and packs 3.4 billion transistors. For reference, the cIOD of Ryzen 5000 "Vermeer" and Ryzen 3000 "Matisse" is built on the Global Foundries 12 nm node, measures a similar 125 mm², but with a much lower transistor count of 2.09 billion. The key contributor to the transistor count increase is the tiny iGPU that the Socket AM5 cIOD comes with. It may have just 1 workgroup processor (2 CU), but comes with the same display engines and media engines as the iGPU on APUs.

And now, onto the CPU complex dies (CCDs), the key area of silicon innovation for AMD desktop processors. The 8-core "Zen 5" CCD is codenamed "Eldora," and is built on the 4 nm foundry node. The HardwareLuxx.de report says that this the same N4P node as "Strix Point," but we've heard several other credible sources claiming that it is the more advanced N4X node, which favors high frequencies. The "Zen 5" CCD has a transistor count of 8.315 billion, which is a significant increase over the 6.5 billion of "Durango," the 8-core CCD based on "Zen 4," powering "Raphael."

What's most interesting is that this staggering 28% increase in transistor counts from the "Zen 4" Durango CCD to the "Zen 5" Eldora CCD comes at a die-area decrease of 0.5%. That's right, the "Zen 5" CCD measures 70.6 mm², whereas the "Zen 4" CCD is 71 mm². The "Zen 4" CCD is built on TSMC N5 (5 nm), which goes to show the leap in transistor densities achieved from the switch to N4P (or N4X).

A maxed out Ryzen 9 9950X processor hence has a total transistor count of 20.03 billion, while the single-CCD Ryzen 7 9700X has a transistor count of 11.715 billion.

AMD Ryzen 9000 series goes on sale from July 31, 2024.
Source: HardwareLuxx.de
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33 Comments on AMD Granite Ridge and Strix Point Zen 5 Die-sizes and Transistor Counts Confirmed

#26
Neo_Morpheus
fevgatosWhat's your goal? I'd personally go for the normal 9700x,
Gaming but that will diminish in favor of productivity.
fevgatos30% more money for a bit better gaming performance if you have a super expensive card is just meh.
Fair point and i have a 7900xtx.
fevgatosWith that extra money you could just get a 9900x instead (although I dont exactly like the 6+6 configuration)
Same here, so i’m leaning towards the 9700X.
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#27
fevgatos
Neo_MorpheusGaming but that will diminish in favor of productivity.

Fair point and i have a 7900xtx.

Same here, so i’m leaning towards the 9700X.
I have a 4090 with a 2021 12900k, the 4090 is still a massive bottleneck. That's why I don't see the point of spending the extra for the 3d over the normal 9700x. You will be massively gpu bottlenecked unless you go for something like 1440p medium / low settings.
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#28
Neo_Morpheus
Monitor is 4k 120hz so cant really lower the res, love my native 4k. :)
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#29
fevgatos
Neo_MorpheusMonitor is 4k 120hz so cant really lower the res, love my native 4k. :)
I'm also at 4k / 240hz, and yeah, your GPU will be a massive bottleneck way before youll see any difference between the 3d and the non 3d variants. If only the 9900x would be an 8+4 configuration, that would be the perfect middle ground.
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#30
Minus Infinity
fevgatosI'm also at 4k / 240hz, and yeah, your GPU will be a massive bottleneck way before youll see any difference between the 3d and the non 3d variants. If only the 9900x would be an 8+4 configuration, that would be the perfect middle ground.
12+0 like Bartlet lake!
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#31
fevgatos
Minus Infinity12+0 like Bartlet lake!
Don't like no ecores. Unless they go with 16P cores, id rather stick with at least 8ecores.
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#32
Nhonho
AMD won't launch the Ryzen AI 300 Series for the AM5 socket?
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#33
sLowEnd
NhonhoAMD won't launch the Ryzen AI 300 Series for the AM5 socket?
Nope. They will be mobile only for the time being. Maybe they'll put out something similar when they decide to update their desktop APU lineup later.
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